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Paul Wilson is the creator of Swing Machine Golf and founder of Ignition Golf. Paul's golf swing technique is based on the Iron Byron swing machine.
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February 14, 2014
In other words, Paul, end up with your first thing you want a student to do – learn the follow through – touching your legs and the club shaft touching your head from ear to ear.
When we finished play a round today, I had a fellow club member ask me if I followed your method of teaching. He had heard either me talking about you or our Club Pro mentioned it to him. Anyway I told him yes I have been learning from you for over the past 4 years, I have been to see you twice for lessons, I have you book and DVDs, and I follow you daily with Ignition Golf. He is talking about coming to Las Vegas in the spring for one of your classes. His comment was that from what he has seen of your videos on the internet, “He breaks the swing down into a few simple steps’. It seems he has seen the light.
Keep up your great work. I turn 71 at the end of this month, and I am shooting my best golf. Over the past 4 weeks I have consistently been shooting in the 80’s. I used to be happy to shoot bogey golf. Now I not satisfied unless I shoot 85 or better. Two weeks ago on windy day I had a wind assisted drive on a fairly flat fairway of of 276 yards, according to my Sky Caddie. I am loving seeing my handicap come down. Thanks for your instruction. The daily tips and reminders are just like having a personal coach on a daily basis.
February 15, 2014
Yes, do the follow through. Sliders ever come fully around because they are moving too much laterally without rotation. So add rotation and the slide disappears.
Glad to hear people are talking about my method. Hopefully, he comes to see me.
Glad you are doing well. Just keep trying to perfect the positions. If you do, I don’t see how you don’t make the jump to the 70’s. You are close right now. Just a little more precise positioning and you will get there.
Thanks for another great insight
As I was watching you demonstrate this tip it occurred to me that I may be able to remember and duplicate your swing just by thinking “Cross 2 Cross!” The golf swing does not get any simpler than that! “Cross 2 Cross!” is a gross oversimplification of your swing but for an overthinker!, it might just work. I will give it a try. Hope springs eternal!
Yes, just thought of this recently. Everyone tried to fix the slide with the lower body. I thought maybe there is and upper body fix people can do. This is real easy.
Watch other sliders in the future. You will see they all stop short of creating the second cross. This is because they are moving laterally not circular.
Played in the local competition today concentrating on your follow through technique. Some great results and some not so good. My main problem was that I was striking the ball on the right half of the clubface and not coming back to the sweet spot at impact. I am a right hander. What do you consider I should look at to rectify this problem? Do you have anyone teaching ‘Swing Machine Golf’ in Australia?
If you were toeing it you were looking up. The more you look the more you pull the club towards you. Why would you do this? You were playing a tournament and trying to see how great your shots were going to be before you actually hit them. In a case like this slow down, relax and delay your reaction to watch the ball.
How To Cure Toeing: https://ignitiongolf.com/cure-toeing/
These ones will help too:
Spine Angle Follow Through: https://ignitiongolf.com/follow-through-eyes-tilted
Break the Chain – Stop Topping: https://ignitiongolf.com/break-chain-topping/
February 16, 2014
Thank you for your comprehensive response above. Standing on the first tee with a whole lot of people watching you is a good way to get the adrenalin going. In my opinion, because this video clip on sliding is so crucial, I shall be watching it each day before I go to golf. Thank you for your outstanding golf instruction.
Don’t worry about those people on the first tee. Anyone and everyone can hit a bad shot at any time and we have all done it. Once you think like this you reduce the pressure before teeing off. I will do a tip on this.
Watch today’s tip too. It should help.
February 17, 2014
Paul, I saw above your tips on toe shot. Would you put a tip on a heel shot also?.
February 18, 2014
I did this tip just after or before that one. Here it is:
How To Cure Heeling: https://ignitiongolf.com/cure-heeling/
February 20, 2014
Thanks Paul. After watching this video and practicing in the mirror I just worked out I am a bad slider which makes sense as I block a lot of my irons to the right. Can’t wait to hit the range tomorrow and try out this new anti slide follow through.
February 21, 2014
There are lots of slides out there. Glad you figured it out. Now you won’t block it. Imagine how good that will be.
September 11, 2014
Started trying out the powerless arms swing the last few times out on the range. Most of my balls are going relatively straight now! The one thing I’m finding though is that I hit 1 out of 10 balls way right on a huge fade. Looking at my divot, it looks like my swing path is straight. From one of your tips, I’m guessing the face is opening up.
Are there any other reasons why this happens other than a slide? It feels like I’m starting and finishing the same way as my straight shots but something is obviously wrong with those shots. It seems to happen more often late in the practice session when I’m more tired.
Any suggestions appreciated.
This one shot going right is you trying to drive your legs and hips too hard. You release is timed for a slower swing. If you increase only the leg drive of course you will blow it right because your body rotation is too far ahead of your arms.
Release Progression: https://ignitiongolf.com/release-progression/
August 1, 2015
I have recently been working on my leg drive and downswing trigger. I have a tendency to hit the ball flat footed and too much with the arms. I have found that using the straighten the left leg trigger helps me to get the hips turned and also gets my back heel off the ground at impact. Another trigger that works good is simply thinking about lifting the back heel to start the downswing.
Now this brings up a question for you about the slide. I have seen your other tips that you state the left knee will be bent at impact and mine is, but it is ahead of the left foot, not even with it like yours is. My hips do not go past the left foot, only the knee does. It that a slide? It seems that no matter how hard I concentrate on straightening that left leg to start the swing, it still moves forward of my foot. My hips are getting turned at impact and my finish is OK.
August 2, 2015
You are not alone. This is what everyone does if they learned golf as an adult.
Glad you have chosen a trigger and will keep working on it. Take time but if you aren’t even thinking of it how can you ever master it?
Well, it may not be a slide as a collapse of the lead leg. You need to start locking it from the top of the backswing down. You only have 1/4 second to impact. If you start to lock it as soon as you come down it will look like mine at impact.
Left Leg Impact: https://ignitiongolf.com/leg-position-impact/
August 24, 2015
I got Pete to do a video swing analysis for me, and one of the many faults he saw was that I am indeed sliding. He gave me several things to work on, but said to work on the follow through first. He did point out that my finish is too vertical, and I am not making the cross as you point out in this video. So I am still working on locking the front leg, but am not seeing this issue solved in a couple of days as you mention in this video. While working on this at the range yesterday, I noticed a very different feeling in the downswing, and that is that my weight is shifting from the center of my left foot to the heel of the foot. It is almost as if I am actually rotating around the left heel. Is that the right sensation to have in the downswing? I am not lifting the heel on the backswing, but instead just feeling the weight shift in the foot.
It took me 2 straight months to fix my slide and this was working on it every day. No one told me to just touch my legs together. If so, I would have done this 1,000 practice swings per night and fixed it in 2 or 3 days. You can make changes fast when you look for the feedback I teach.
I like the weight to be solid on the left at and through impact then it rolls onto the outside edge of the forward foot ending up on the baby toe to heel. I think you are close to the right feeling. Feel it solid through impact then go to the outside edge of the forward foot.
Forward Foot: https://ignitiongolf.com/follow-through-forward-foot/
October 31, 2017
Had my first video lesson with Pete and learned I am sliding. Worked on your tip today and while I saw a big improvement in the finishing position, most of the time I can’t quite get the club to 90 degrees. Most of the time it’s at about 110 or 120.(Which is a big improvement) Is it likely that I am still sliding a little and that is preventing a full turn or is there something else I should look for? Thx!
November 1, 2017
Sliding. Good to know. This is a huge problem that needs to be fixed otherwise you will hit pushes, push fades and even duck hooks forever.
In what you are saying you will be tight if you have never turned that much. This will take a little while to get used to. Also, check the weight is getting off of the back foot. Sliders tend to hang back or never getting fully on the tip of this back toe.
Not sure if you watched these tips on sliding:
You Better Check This Especially If You Slide: https://ignitiongolf.com/slide-turn-foot-out/
Easy Way To Cure A Slide: https://ignitiongolf.com/easy-way-cure-slide/
I had the worlds biggest slide many years ago so I know all about fixing it. Just feel the back of the lead knee going back so the other will come around to touch it. Tons of practice swings. Do them slow then speed up once you are used to it. To fix it you need to be doing the new move more than the old. So focus on consecutive repetitions.
Thanks Paul. I am completely committed to fixing this if it takes 5000 practice swings. I did see your other tips on sliding and am working on that. I do think I am getting the weight off my back foot, but I tend to feel it on the outside of my left leg, should I be feeling the weight more on the inside? Seems like if I turn the hips faster and the arms almost feel slow I get more weight on the inside of the leg. Can you reference any tips to feel where the weight should be on the finish? Thanks, Steve.
November 3, 2017
You would feel it flat footed through impact then it rolls onto the outside edge.
Forward Foot: https://ignitiongolf.com/follow-through-forward-foot/
Just keep working on the straightening of the left knee. A feeling of turning not shifting and how the right leg comes around to touch the other leg. Do this at home and at the range. You will get it but do it precisely to get it faster.
January 9, 2018
I’m still working on getting rid of the slide. Using your tip to make the T helps but it still feels like I have a little reverse C. I was wondering if the feeling of level shoulders on the downswing is a good thought and would help with that? What I haven’t quite figured out is why I can hit a bunch of good shots then suddenly a big hook. I know watching the back of the ball helps prevent it but as soon as I get away from that thought the hook will creep in sooner or later…
I wouldn’t be thinking shoulders in the downswing. If so you are not thinking about legs. You need to get the locking of the lead leg. I would put a tick 3=4″ off the left hip. I use a broken driver shaft. As you hit every ball just don’t hit the shaft. Also, slow down. No sense going full speed wrong. So swing at 50% or slower and do it right. You mind doesn’t like locking the lead leg so it had to get used to it.
Also, when you swing through just take a look down for the outside of your left foot. You cannot see it if you do a reverse C.
Definitely check your grip. If you are hooking it without trying to hook it you have a grip problem.
January 11, 2018
I’m finding using an aiming stick as you suggest I can at 50% not slide and the ball goes pretty dead straight which is great. However when I try to speed it up I tend to not get the weight over and hit it fat (at least I assume that is why I am hitting it fat) or slide a little and hit a pull. I’m definitely getting the feeling of turning not shifting. Do I just need to keep working on it and eventually will get it or is there something I should work on as I try to speed it up?
If you speed it up and you go back to sliding there is no point speeding it up. This is refreshing your memory of the slide. So stop speeding it up for now. I really think you need to be working on snapping the forward leg straight back. This is the feeling but every slider I have ever seen doesn’t like it and takes a while to fix it. Back in the day if you would have told me to do this I would have been on it doing it nightly 500 plus times allowing it to lock and the back leg to come around to physically touch the forward leg. I would have done it this much to get used to the new move and get rid of the slide. Instead it took me all day every day for 2 months (no joke).
I like to get people to imagine there is an arrow on the back on the forward knee and to force it straight back. I would be doing this nigtly:
DRILL: Lean On Club to Touch Legs: https://ignitiongolf.com/drill-lean-on-club
Also, change the thought from the top. Your thought should be TURN not SHIFT. If you are sliding you have too much shift and not enough turn so turn need to be the thought. Sure you will hit some pulls but this is the flaw that tells you it is working. You keep hitting pushes and push fades and you will never get it.
January 15, 2018
I discovered something that helped but I am always leary when I add something on my own so want to run it by you. Been working with the aiming stick outside my left leg. What I found is that to get my self to think “turn not shift” more, I picture having the aiming stick also outside my right leg. That seems to help my turn better on the downswing. In fact am thinking of using an aiming stick on both legs as I continue to work on locking the left leg on the downswing. Is that a good idea? Thanks I feel like I am getting really close to getting this as it is definitely starting to feel completely different from my old swing…
Yes, this is a great idea. I think I mentioned this is how I got it many years ago. It took me 2 months and that was all day every day at the range. Problem was noone showed me the touch the legs position. If so, I would have done it in a few days.
I think I have the stick in one of these tips:
What’s Faster … Turning or Shifting Laterally To Start Your Downswing?: https://ignitiongolf.com/turning-or-shifting/
There Is Lateral Motion In The Downswing: https://ignitiongolf.com/lateral-motion-downswing/
Oh yes, this should feel completely different. Good sign you are doing it right now.
December 16, 2017
I did an analysis with Pete just now and i do slide a bit, mainly cause im trying to keep my head behind the ball. It causes pushes and duck hooks. Can it also cause the odd sky? I will focus more on the left knee go back and turn 🙂
December 17, 2017
Keeping your head behind the ball will certainly cause those bad shots. Keep in mind you are not thinking about this forever. You are doing this until you have it mastered. Then you are going back to the touch the legs position. If you do this position you will not stay too far behind the ball and you will eliminate those bad shots.
Skying is from moving your head ahead of the ball in the downswing. You cannot sky it with your head behind the ball. If you kept your head way too much behind the ball you may hit the ground way behind the ball and/or drop kick your driver. If you sky it you will see the mark on the ground ahead of your ball not behind it.
I think im keeping my head behind it now so should start to work on the left leg going back. Should hopefully help me get rid of my slide. Thanks☺️
December 18, 2017
Yes, if you find you are pulling it then you are leaning left in the downswing. Need more tilt.
February 22, 2018
Hope you’re well and Happy New Year. Thanks again for your invaluable work – was lost without you. I’m struggling with my rotation again in my swing and am alternating between sliding aggressively, which is leading to the typical push-fade or what feels like “over rotating” and coming in over the top.
My question – what do you think is causing this over the top result when I am actively trying to focus on coiling/ rotating.
Pete has looked at a decent amount of my video and sees sliding.
Maybe another way to put the question – what are the best drills or thoughts to practice for a proper rotation follow-through position.
Good to hear from you. Happy new Year too. We are well and looking forward to a great 2018.
2 Things Flatten the Plane: https://ignitiongolf.com/2-things-flatten-plane/
The over the top is usually caused by hitting with arms. You end up moving the mass (club) before the xis (body) but in your case you are trying to get rid of a slide. In doing so you would be trying to get a feeling of turning more instead of moving laterally. I think this is causing you to immediately shift onto the forward leg which lean your forward and send it over the top.
I did a tip on it here:
Shifting Weight Too Soon To Forward Leg: https://ignitiongolf.com/shifting-too-soon-forward-leg/
So coil and load into the right. Once back there your though it TURN. All the head to stay behind the ball as you hit the ball. The weight should shift on its own as you are moving through to the follow through position. Another way to do it is to look at the back of the ball as you hit the ball but think TURN as you hit it.
You can also experiment by doing this:
Body Tilt – Left Right: https://ignitiongolf.com/cure-pulling/Stop Coming Over the Top: https://ignitiongolf.com/cure-stop-over-the-top/
So you feel how much left or right you would have to tilt to affect the direction of your shots. You will quickly get the feeling of what not to do.
Hope this helps.
July 11, 2019
Just wanted to put this tip out there for the group – I believe Pete had suggested it once to me, but I finally put it into practice with good results – practice swings next to a chair to eliminate sliding.
I was really struggling with sliding again after the long off-season in Canada, and I committed to doing nightly practice swings with a chair on my left hip, trying to avoid the chair on the through-swing to promote a turn and avoid a slide. It has made a noticeable difference and I am sliding a lot less.
As someone who has been struggling with a severe slide for over two years, I strongly recommend this as a way to help get rid of the slide if you are still struggling with it.
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