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Paul Wilson is the creator of Swing Machine Golf and founder of Ignition Golf. Paul's golf swing technique is based on the Iron Byron swing machine.
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September 22, 2016
I’ve been struggling to change this for a long time because it was so ingrained in my swing. That said, it is possible to have slight pulls, not the massive ones you illustrate. I can and have been able to play with it but have been trying very hard to eliminate it. The only success I have had is to make believe I am not going to swing the club down at all once getting to the top of the backswing and then try to drive my legs/lower body to square the club head at impact letting the arms go. If I attempt to “press on the accelerator” I usually hit fat.
This is hard to eliminate, over the top, but the above crutch seems to work.
September 23, 2016
Yes, you can come slightly over the top. This worked for more than one of the best players of all time.
I like how you said, you had to make believe that you are not going to swing the club down at all from the top. This is exactly how you should be thinking. You cannot think hit, then turn them off through impact. It starts from the top. If your arms are turned off you would use the body as you have no other way of hitting the ball. I would stick to this though and not trying to help the ball as you hit the ball. Once you get better at these thoughts then you speed up the leg drive.
Also, on a nightly basis you should be doing practice swings while angled behind the ball. Why not do this and get used to it without the ball. Swinging like this gives you a whole different perspective as you hit the ball. Visually you need to get used to it so doing practice swings staying behind it gets you used to it so you can do it when you hit an actual ball. Anyway, you must be close now.
April 16, 2017
Hi Paul. Valid point from Ken here. For me i struggle a bit with the transition from backswing to trigger. Can you pause a bit at the top and think “not swing down the club” and then start with trigger?
April 18, 2017
You can certainly pause at the top. I did a tip on it here:
Pause At Top: https://ignitiongolf.com/pause-top-backswing/
Amen to this tip. As a player who has always come over the top looking for that ‘power’, this is a common mistake when I get too excited during a round. When I go back to making sure I have the proper tilt (which I think also helps from shifting too soon), it normally fixes itself.
Good stuff. This really takes work and focus to eliminate it forever. Glad you see it.
I believe I too have this problem. I produce slight pulls at time. On the range I notice my divots angling to the left (I’m a rightie). It doesn’t feel like I’m leaning in the downswing, but I must be. Is there a way to improve consistency in rotating properly?
Your divots should be slightly left as you take the divot after the ball is hit and the club is still traveling on a slight arc. If they are way left then you have an issue:
Divot Path?: https://ignitiongolf.com/divot-path/
If you are turning and shifting properly your plane will flatten so yes, you will be more consistent if you do this.
Are you doing the touch the legs position perfectly? This would create consistency as you would be ending up in the exact same position each time.
Also, are you doing my favorite drill nightly?
DRILL: Swing Off Ground: https://ignitiongolf.com/drill-swing-off-ground/
DRILL: Swing Off Ground Variation: https://ignitiongolf.com/drill-variation-favorite-drill/
DRILL: My Favorite Drill – Variation 2: https://ignitiongolf.com/favorite-drill-variation-2/
DRILL: Listen to Club Swinging: https://ignitiongolf.com/drill-listen-to-club/
This takes consistent and constant work to master it.
Playing Catch Up: https://ignitiongolf.com/playing-catch-up/
So stay focused on perfect movement and really working on the legs and hips as the power source. If so you will be very consistent.
September 24, 2016
Thanks, Paul. Will follow your suggestions.
September 1, 2017
Whilst in the set up I say to myself “the dog (legs) wags the tail (arms and club) not the tail wagging the dog. Just a final swing thought. Works for me.
Very good. This is the correct thought. Keep saying it.
September 2, 2017
I like this creative swing thought 🙂
After some years a bit away from the game, due to work and kids I have during the last months starting to build up my swing based on the powerless swing concept.
During this process I’ve a few times had used my local PGA pro to get a second view on my swing. This has resulted in that grip, setup, back swing and top position has been adjusted, and is fully aligned with your swing concept.
However my local pro are telling me that I’m firing my hips to fast in the downswing, which initially pleased me, as I want to fire them fast (I actually had planned on increasing the hip rotation at a later stage).
My bad shots pull hooks, which indicate I’m coming over the top, but I now I start the down swing with my hips, at least that’s also what my pro is telling me.
Further my normal “good” swing has a too high ball flight, and I think that my arms don’t drop enough downwards during the initial downswing.
I really don’t know how I should work to solve this without actually using my arms.
Does this make sense…
Glad you are back and working on it. Did you not watch this tip you commented on? If you are hitting pulls and pull hooks you are tilted left in the downswing. This is sending it over the top. The tell-tale sign you are doing this is you are telling me you are feeling your legs. If so, you are using them but you are shifting too soon from the top into the left left. This is tilting you left.
All you have to do is watch the back of the ball while still firing the legs as hard as you are. You cannot see the back of the ball if you are moving into the left leg too much. So watch the back of the ball. When you do you will stay behind it thus changing the path.
Watch this too:
Watch Back of The Golf Ball: https://ignitiongolf.com/watch-backside-golf-ball/
2 Things Flatten the Plane: https://ignitiongolf.com/2-things-flatten-plane/
I love that you are saying you are starting to fire the hips a lot faster. So few people do this. Keep doing it but you just need a few tweaks to get it under control.
A GREAT TIP
Thanks. I re-posted it because someone called me with this exact issue. I know he is not the only person doing this.
March 6, 2018
I am 6’5″ and am plagued by pushing the ball to the right. I feel one of my main problems is that my upper body moves forward during the downswing before hitting the ball. This feels natural and to keep my head back behind the ball makes me tilt backwards during the downswing which also sometimes makes me push the ball.
I also fight a fade/slice. I have decent length but need help on these two issues.
Getting ahead of it is not good. You won’t be able to square the face and you will hit bladed irons and skyed woods.
All you have to do is watch the back of the ball as you hit the ball. This is a simple habit to get in to. You see the back of the ball and you will have to be tilted behind it.
I did this many years ago. After I trained myself to stay behind it I just stopped thinking about it.
Also, you need to get that face squaring. To do that you need to do the roll over drill and get it hooking first. Then you work on body to straighten it out.
DRILL: 3 Ways To Roll It Over: https://ignitiongolf.com/3-ways-to-roll/
Roll Around The Stick: https://ignitiongolf.com/roll-around-stick/
Clarifying the Roll Over Drill: https://ignitiongolf.com/clarifying-roll-drill/
Modified Roll Over Drill: https://ignitiongolf.com/modified-roll-over-drill/
After The Roll Over Drill: https://ignitiongolf.com/after-the-roll-over/
Give this a try. You do the roll over you are no longer hitting it with slice spin. Then you just have to fix the direction. This is done with the body.
June 23, 2018
After watching this tip I immediately went across the street to a field where I could hit old balls. What your tip addresses is exactly what I am doing. I think I got so caught up in all the swing thoughts that I forgot about being athletic. I picked up a ball and threw it. The weight doesn’t immediately go to the front foot. I could hardly throw the ball doing that. I still have much work to do but this is huge I think.
June 25, 2018
Very good. Glad you caught it as this the power source in your swing. Get this wrong and you will have to use your arms. Now that you have the feeling keep doing it until you are used to it. If you lose the feeling go back to throwing.
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