Paul – It’s fairly straightforward to feel your lower body swinging the club in practice swings but less easy in the actual swing. Even when I end up in the correct follow through position, I’m not sure if my hips led my arms or vice versa. Any thoughts on this?
Thanks for the great instruction –
John
You can tell if you are using your arms by watching your ball. If you are pulling, pull hooking or pull slicing your arms are starting down ahead of the lower body.
Paul, your “favorite drill” is huge. I have now adopted it as part of the my pre-shot routine, trying to recreate the same feeling during the shot. The result is, indeed, gaining distance and constancy. The down part is, of course, changing distances and over shooting the green when using 7 or 8 irons for approach.
Question, though, should I apply the same drill or “feeling” to shorter pitches? While to margin for error with long clubs is wide, it is trickier with wedges, which has been causing me to tighten up.
Funny how people still tell people to pull the arms down to start the downswing. Hopefully, with Hogan and other teachers such as myself focusing on the body we can get everyone using it to hit the ball. I will just keep doing my part.
Paul ,I have an issue with my backswing ,which is More or less related to the hip rotation .I do rather succesfully your “POWERLESS ARMS + HIP FORWARD TURN” move ,but I exp
Just do practice swings in front of a mirror looking for the whole clubshaft above your head with every club. This is a visual thing. You should see the whole shaft. If you look up and your head is blocking out the shaft so you can’t visually see the whole thing then you are not up high enough. Keep doing this and it 2 weeks your arms should be trained to go up higher. Give it a try.
Love all your favorite drills I am doing them everywhere even in my sleep!
But I need another drill!
I do not know what controls the take-a-way distance from my ball moving back before it begins to rise up and around my body to a set position that will give me a chance to get the club head on a ninety 90 degree track.? I fell like my left arm is extending to an almost straight position and my right elbow is moving away from my hip? If I lock my right elbow or attempt to slide it around my right hip I loose the feeling of powerless arms?
My wife and love listening to your helpful videos. We notice that you have a soft left elbow and not a stiff and straight one at the top of your swing. Does this help or hinder distance? Does this hurt or help control? Does it matter at all?
Glad you like the tips. I truly appreciate the feedback and support.
I want the lead arm extended bu not locked. Too straight makes you too tight. I want you arms powerless when you swing. If you are trying to keep the arm locked you will be too tight and not be able to keep them powerless.
I have tried to get my arms straighter and just cannot do it. Jack Nicklaus as well as many other top pros do not keep their arms straight either. I did tip on this here:
With my Game Golf stat tracker my Driver average is 281 yards so no it does not hamper distance.
If I practice I am very accurate as well so it does not affect accuracy if your arms are powerless. Powerless arms stops you from manipulating the club face. If the arms breaks at the top it just needs to be extended again as you hit the ball. If so, you do not lose the width of your arc. Buckled through impact (chicken wing) is a huge problem.
Thanks so much for your fast and very concise answers. We got it! Now that you answered, I can remember you addressing that question before but we forgot (old age).
Just so you know, we are really working on changing our swing to what you teach. Just the follow through alone has helped us both with straighter shots.
We our your #1 fans. Not kissing up, just the truth.
Hy Paul
When i practice the full swing let say forty times without any ball ending with the club parallelto my ears i feel my arms caming down after my lower body rotation but my left hand gets tired
I am thinking you are doing these practice swings too quick. Don’t just swing back and forth. Take your time and be precise. Check your grip and setup. Re-set address each time, hold the follow through etc.
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18 Responses to “Drill: My Favorite Drill – Variation 2”
December 6, 2012
JohnBabbPaul – It’s fairly straightforward to feel your lower body swinging the club in practice swings but less easy in the actual swing. Even when I end up in the correct follow through position, I’m not sure if my hips led my arms or vice versa. Any thoughts on this?
Thanks for the great instruction –
John
December 6, 2012
Paul WilsonJohn,
You can tell if you are using your arms by watching your ball. If you are pulling, pull hooking or pull slicing your arms are starting down ahead of the lower body.
Watch:
Flatten Plane 1: https://ignitiongolf.com/downswing-flatten-plane
Flatten Plane 2: https://ignitiongolf.com/downswing-flatten-plane-2
December 6, 2012
DavidWeinsteinPaul, your “favorite drill” is huge. I have now adopted it as part of the my pre-shot routine, trying to recreate the same feeling during the shot. The result is, indeed, gaining distance and constancy. The down part is, of course, changing distances and over shooting the green when using 7 or 8 irons for approach.
Question, though, should I apply the same drill or “feeling” to shorter pitches? While to margin for error with long clubs is wide, it is trickier with wedges, which has been causing me to tighten up.
Thanks
Davidw
December 6, 2012
Paul WilsonDavid,
Glad you like my favorite drill. Hopefully, everyone else will too. It can do so many things to help the swing.
The feeling with pitches is to turn our belt buckle left of the target so it is a different thought although it is the same move yet abbreviated.
Watch:
How to Pitch: https://ignitiongolf.com/pitch-ball
This is also explained in my short game video series.
December 6, 2012
WadeThamesHogan was saying the same thing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QL_6M_xZvq0&t=16s
December 6, 2012
Paul WilsonWade,
Funny how people still tell people to pull the arms down to start the downswing. Hopefully, with Hogan and other teachers such as myself focusing on the body we can get everyone using it to hit the ball. I will just keep doing my part.
April 5, 2014
RaymondCHASTELPaul ,I have an issue with my backswing ,which is More or less related to the hip rotation .I do rather succesfully your “POWERLESS ARMS + HIP FORWARD TURN” move ,but I exp
April 7, 2014
Paul WilsonRaymond,
Just do practice swings in front of a mirror looking for the whole clubshaft above your head with every club. This is a visual thing. You should see the whole shaft. If you look up and your head is blocking out the shaft so you can’t visually see the whole thing then you are not up high enough. Keep doing this and it 2 weeks your arms should be trained to go up higher. Give it a try.
April 9, 2014
GeraldJoyceHey Paul,
Love all your favorite drills I am doing them everywhere even in my sleep!
But I need another drill!
I do not know what controls the take-a-way distance from my ball moving back before it begins to rise up and around my body to a set position that will give me a chance to get the club head on a ninety 90 degree track.? I fell like my left arm is extending to an almost straight position and my right elbow is moving away from my hip? If I lock my right elbow or attempt to slide it around my right hip I loose the feeling of powerless arms?
Help needed!
Best Jay Jay
April 10, 2014
Paul WilsonJay Jay,
Here is the takeaway stuff:
One Piece Takeaway: https://ignitiongolf.com/master-one-piece-takeaway
One-Piece Takeaway Drill: https://ignitiongolf.com/one-piece-takeaway-drill/
Also, you need these as well:
Halfway Back: https://ignitiongolf.com/halfway-back
Extend Left Arm Backswing at 3/4: https://ignitiongolf.com/backswing-three-quarters
Depth of Swing: https://ignitiongolf.com/correct-backswing-depth
Late or Early Wrist Set: https://ignitiongolf.com/backswing-late-early-wrist-set
August 14, 2014
DonaldBlackHi Paul,
My wife and love listening to your helpful videos. We notice that you have a soft left elbow and not a stiff and straight one at the top of your swing. Does this help or hinder distance? Does this hurt or help control? Does it matter at all?
Appreciate a comment on this.
Your two new fans,
Don and Barb
August 15, 2014
Paul WilsonDon and Barb,
Glad you like the tips. I truly appreciate the feedback and support.
I want the lead arm extended bu not locked. Too straight makes you too tight. I want you arms powerless when you swing. If you are trying to keep the arm locked you will be too tight and not be able to keep them powerless.
I have tried to get my arms straighter and just cannot do it. Jack Nicklaus as well as many other top pros do not keep their arms straight either. I did tip on this here:
Left Arm at Top: https://ignitiongolf.com/left-arm-backswing
Extended But Not Locked: https://ignitiongolf.com/extended-but-not-locked/
With my Game Golf stat tracker my Driver average is 281 yards so no it does not hamper distance.
If I practice I am very accurate as well so it does not affect accuracy if your arms are powerless. Powerless arms stops you from manipulating the club face. If the arms breaks at the top it just needs to be extended again as you hit the ball. If so, you do not lose the width of your arc. Buckled through impact (chicken wing) is a huge problem.
August 15, 2014
DonaldBlackHi Paul,
Thanks so much for your fast and very concise answers. We got it! Now that you answered, I can remember you addressing that question before but we forgot (old age).
Just so you know, we are really working on changing our swing to what you teach. Just the follow through alone has helped us both with straighter shots.
We our your #1 fans. Not kissing up, just the truth.
Don and Barb
September 3, 2014
FranciscoPresaHy Paul
When i practice the full swing let say forty times without any ball ending with the club parallelto my ears i feel my arms caming down after my lower body rotation but my left hand gets tired
September 3, 2014
Paul WilsonFranciso,
I am thinking you are doing these practice swings too quick. Don’t just swing back and forth. Take your time and be precise. Check your grip and setup. Re-set address each time, hold the follow through etc.
Watch:
No Back and Forth Swings: https://ignitiongolf.com/no-back-and-forth-swings/
Also, make sure you are not holding on too tight. If you are you will get tired.
Watch:
Stay Relaxed In The Follow Through: https://ignitiongolf.com/stay-relaxed-follow-through/
September 4, 2014
FranciscoPresaThank you i think you are right i am holding on too tight with my left hand and this causes problems in the releasing.
December 1, 2014
PaulKwonHi Paul,
I have not done this drill before and doing it I feel in areas I have not felt before so probably a good drill for me to do.
I am chronic puller so I am very conscious of my head / spine position. Should I do this drill while keeping the head back or does it not matter ?
December 3, 2014
Paul WilsonPaul,
You certainly should do this drill while keeping your head back. I have a version of it here:
DRILL: Swing Up with Driver: https://ignitiongolf.com/drill-swing-up-driver/
Also, I hope you watched this tip I posted recently:
Cures – Manually Tilt To Stop Pulling: https://ignitiongolf.com/manually-tilt-cure-pull/