Irons Good Driver Bad

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Paul Wilson

Paul Wilson is the creator of Swing Machine Golf and founder of Ignition Golf. Paul's golf swing technique is based on the Iron Byron swing machine. YouTube Channels: Paul Wilson Golf and Ignition Golf Tips. Please Join me on Google+

24 Responses to “Irons Good Driver Bad”

  1. February 16, 2014

    DAVESHAFFER

    Hi Paul -

    I’m the opposite! The Driver is the easiest club for me to hit. I wish I could use it on all the shots. It’s not that my iron shots are bad, but rather that the distance is not commensurate with the irons. I drive as far or farther that the guys I play with using the Driver. However I have to go 2 or 3 clubs lower when using the irons. For some reason I have major speed loss with the irons.

    • Paul Wilson

      February 18, 2014

      Paul Wilson

      Dave,

      Sounds like you are trying to hit down with your irons which you should never purposely do. This hitting down occurs due to the right fundamentals not because you are hitting down. I say you are hitting down because you are losing distance with these clubs. You should have one swing so it should be working with irons as well as driver. If it is not you are using a different swing. So focus on not hitting down. Keep the arms and wrists relaxed. Also, why not tee up a ball. Do some driver swings then immediately hit some irons applying this same feeling. Why not hold the iron in the air like it is a driver and get the feeling of your driver swing then lower the club to the ball and apply the very same feeling.

      I think you have a few of video to watch:

      Taller Setup: http://ignitiongolf.com/bartender-setup/

      DRILL: Start High Then Gradually Lower: http://ignitiongolf.com/start-high-gradually-lower/

      And:

      Never Purposely Hit Down On The Ball: http://ignitiongolf.com/never-hit-down/

      Divot: http://ignitiongolf.com/divot

  2. February 16, 2014

    TIMADAMS

    Paul
    me too good driver bad irons

    • Paul Wilson

      February 18, 2014

      Paul Wilson

      Tim,

      Here is the reply to Dave:

      Dave,

      Sounds like you are trying to hit down with your irons which you should never purposely do. This hitting down occurs due to the right fundamentals not because you are hitting down. I say you are hitting down because you are losing distance with these clubs. You should have one swing so it should be working with irons as well as driver. If it is not you are using a different swing. So focus on not hitting down. Keep the arms and wrists relaxed. Also, why not tee up a ball. Do some driver swings then immediately hit some irons applying this same feeling. Why not hold the iron in the air like it is a driver and get the feeling of your driver swing then lower the club to the ball and apply the very same feeling.

      I think you have a few of video to watch:

      Taller Setup: http://ignitiongolf.com/bartender-setup/

      DRILL: Start High Then Gradually Lower: http://ignitiongolf.com/start-high-gradually-lower/

      And:

      Never Purposely Hit Down On The Ball: http://ignitiongolf.com/never-hit-down/

      Divot: http://ignitiongolf.com/divot

  3. February 17, 2014

    BillyCrouch

    Paul I have a hitting are in my home where I hit balls made from cotton. I can take a full swing with a driver and it feels to me I am in line with what you teach. When I go to the range I cut the back swing short
    I am at a loss to have the full swing on the range and golf course can you help.

    • Paul Wilson

      February 18, 2014

      Paul Wilson

      Billy,

      Although the cotton balls sounds like a good idea you are still hitting something. The whole point of doing the practice swings at home is to not hit anything because there is nothing there to hit. With nothing there you should be focusing on mastering your swing positions.

      Cutting your swing short when you go to hit a ball is yo HITTING. As you go back you are tightening your arms getting them ready to whack at it. So you need to change the thought. You are not hitting ANYTHING. You are doing a movement with a piece of metal in your hands. When you do this movement and you put a round piece of plastic in front of it, it will be hit. Right now you are trying to propel the round piece of plastic which will never work because you are never allowing the club to swing to Point B. You are making the ball Point B.

      So you need to stop hitting the cotton. When you do your practice swings you need to be focused beyond the ball trying to master my follow through positions. Then when you put a ball in front of you, you are thinking of making the move to this follow through position. You do not care about the ball or where it goes.

      Watch:

      Swing From Point A to Point B: http://ignitiongolf.com/point-a-to-point-b/

      DRILL: Point A to Point B: http://ignitiongolf.com/drill-point-a-to-point-b/

      Swing Positions:

      Uncoil 1: http://ignitiongolf.com/uncoil
      Uncoil 2: http://ignitiongolf.com/uncoil-follow-up
      Legs Touching: http://ignitiongolf.com/touch-knees

      One Of The Secrets To The Golf Swing: http://ignitiongolf.com/secrets-to-golf-swing/

      Hit, Hold and Check: http://ignitiongolf.com/hold-check-follow-through/

  4. February 17, 2014

    DavidCoombes

    Hi Paul
    I have experienced exactly what you just explained about the driver. Not loading up with the driver plus having a new driver which fits my swing I am now confident and long and straight. The rest of my bag is usually no problem since following your method for about 18 months now.
    So now I have a driver and lessons both of which suit me and my game.
    Many Thanks

    • Paul Wilson

      February 18, 2014

      Paul Wilson

      David,

      Very good. It sure is fun once you get driver going down the middle.

      Keep up the good work.

  5. February 17, 2014

    JohnSteen

    Hi Paul,

    I have the same problem as Dave Shaffer (above) , I also have lost distance With the irions ! You have said something about hip speed earlier, but it seems that is have to be more than that. Many People say you have to ‘hit down’ With irons in order to squize tha ball away, but that is not what you teach , ao I Wonder that ther ust be something else.

    John

    • Paul Wilson

      February 18, 2014

      Paul Wilson

      John,

      You are already hitting at the ball and it is not working so why would I tell you to hit down at the ball? You hit down on the ball due to the right fundamentals not because you are hitting down on the ball. When you try to hit the ball you tighten your arms. When your arms tighten your forearm muscles contract thus causing them to shorten. If your arms when you hit the ball are shorter than the ones you had at address it is impossible to hit down.

      So you need to not hit anything. This will allow the mass to stretch your arms out fully past impact. This coupled with your body tilt creates the descending blow.

      Here is the reply I posted to others:

      Dave,

      Sounds like you are trying to hit down with your irons which you should never purposely do. This hitting down occurs due to the right fundamentals not because you are hitting down. I say you are hitting down because you are losing distance with these clubs. You should have one swing so it should be working with irons as well as driver. If it is not you are using a different swing. So focus on not hitting down. Keep the arms and wrists relaxed. Also, why not tee up a ball. Do some driver swings then immediately hit some irons applying this same feeling. Why not hold the iron in the air like it is a driver and get the feeling of your driver swing then lower the club to the ball and apply the very same feeling.

      I think you have a few of video to watch:

      Taller Setup: http://ignitiongolf.com/bartender-setup/

      DRILL: Start High Then Gradually Lower: http://ignitiongolf.com/start-high-gradually-lower/

      And:

      Never Purposely Hit Down On The Ball: http://ignitiongolf.com/never-hit-down/

      Divot: http://ignitiongolf.com/divot

  6. February 17, 2014

    JohnSteen

    Sorry for the spelling error.

    ….. said something about hip speed earlier, but it seems that it have to be more than that. Many people say you have to ‘hit down’ with irons in order to squize the ball away, but that is not what you teach , so I wonder about there could be something else which cause this poor distance with the irons ?

    John

  7. February 17, 2014

    ERIABBERA

    Hi Paul
    Thanks for the lesson.
    The problem with me is that IRONS ‘INTIMIDATE’ ME.
    I’am comfortable with woods. What can I do since irons are vital?

    • Paul Wilson

      February 18, 2014

      Paul Wilson

      Eriab,

      Same reply to you as I posted to the others:

      Dave,

      Sounds like you are trying to hit down with your irons which you should never purposely do. This hitting down occurs due to the right fundamentals not because you are hitting down. I say you are hitting down because you are losing distance with these clubs. You should have one swing so it should be working with irons as well as driver. If it is not you are using a different swing. So focus on not hitting down. Keep the arms and wrists relaxed. Also, why not tee up a ball. Do some driver swings then immediately hit some irons applying this same feeling. Why not hold the iron in the air like it is a driver and get the feeling of your driver swing then lower the club to the ball and apply the very same feeling.

      I think you have a few of video to watch:

      Taller Setup: http://ignitiongolf.com/bartender-setup/

      DRILL: Start High Then Gradually Lower: http://ignitiongolf.com/start-high-gradually-lower/

      And:

      Never Purposely Hit Down On The Ball: http://ignitiongolf.com/never-hit-down/

      Divot: http://ignitiongolf.com/divot

      • February 18, 2014

        ERIABBERA

        THANKS PAUL.

        • February 18, 2014

          ERIABBERA

          Hi Paul,
          Isn’t it possible that Tiger Woods is seesawing because he is protecting the right knee?
          Just a thought. Thanks.

          • Paul Wilson

            February 18, 2014

            Paul Wilson

            Eriab,

            He is see saying because he went to a teacher that teaches a setup that is too bent over.

  8. February 17, 2014

    JeromeLuchuk

    Great tip. I look forward to changing my thought process for the driver. Thanks for the help
    Jerry

  9. February 17, 2014

    GeraldJoyce

    Hey Paul,
    When I swing the driver and pretend it is my seven iron it works very well solid contact that I check on my tell tape and straight
    down the middle. It is scary too see how far the ball will fly with as little effort possible.

    However, I have a related problem with my driver. When I hit it slow and easy with a great lower body knee touch and hinge release with full finish off it goes but it rises early and keeps on rising and hangs in the sky which seems like forever. But when it comes down it plops dead around 180 – 200 yards out. No low steady lift and roll on impact no driver distance my 3 wood goes about the same distance and my 3 rescue often rolls past the driver.

    I have tried lowering the tee also moving forward and backward still rises like a balloon?

    Can you help. Using a 9.5 loft regular shaft Slider driver.

    Best regards,

    Gerald (JJ)

    • Paul Wilson

      February 18, 2014

      Paul Wilson

      Gerald,

      Perfect. I have replied to others basically telling them to do this. You only have one swing. If you cannot do it with all clubs you do not have one swing.

      This excess spin happened to me for years. Then I go the right shaft for my swing and I never have that problem anymore. So I suggest getting professionally fitter b a fitter who has a Trackman. This will fix the problem.

  10. February 18, 2014

    DaleJenkins

    Is there a directory or a referral list from Ignition Golf for club fitters? I am in New York and would like to find someone that can provide a quality evaluation. I understand that Bronson is in CA.

    Best,

    Dale

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