Hi Paul. The last few tips have been great, especially now that here, in central Canada, the courses are now closed. In getting ready to golf in Arizona this winter, I am practicing in the garage. Arms off, touching my legs and the shaft ending at the back of my head is all going quite well. I am well in balance. There is no ball to hit and I have a small carpet on the cement floor to protect my clubs. The problem with my going from A to B is that my club will, too often bounce off the floor, especally with my fairway wood. It’s better if I think of starting my turn a little sooner. I also noticied that in turning off my arms I sometimes have a loose left hand grip on my back swing. If i concentrate on the grip, this helps too. Do you have any other solutions to what is obviously fat shots or hitting the ground before the imaginary ball? (I am obviously doing something wrong and not in sync).
Just hold the club off the ground a little to do your practice swings. You are right, getting off the back foot makes it better. This is because fat shots are caused because you have too much weight on your back foot through impact.
Sometimes I brush the ground sometimes I don’t. I really don’t even think about it. All I am thinking about is going from point A to point B. Just keep doing the practice swings holding the club slightly off the ground and you will be fine.
You definitely need to be holding onto the club yet keep your wrists loose as you swing the club. I just did a tip on this here:
Thanks for this Paul. i did view your Secure Grip Loose Wrists tip. Quick qhestion: Is your grip presure always at 8 out 10 through out the whole swing? Thanks again.
Paul, I would like to know where in Arizona Gerry Carriere plays golf during the winter months. I live in Arizona and would like to play and practice with others who are following your teachings. The golf pro at our club has heard me speak of you and your method of teaching the golf swing. He recently watched one of your video clips on the internet. He liked what you said so much that he began to talk to me about your approach. I loaned him my copies of your DVDs and book. I have been away for he past month, but will be returning to Arizona at the end of the week. I hope to work some with him, but it would be great to meet other students following your teachings.
Paul have been working on the point a to point b drill not much luck. Today during my walk I kept saying turn the shoulders set the wrists rotate the hips a&b. At the range today I shortened that to turn set rotate and it started to come together. The club just went along for the ride it was great.
good evening paul—only 1 thing to state–have been following you for quite some time now,and the main problem i seem to repeat constantly is losing my spine angle right b4 impact (ie, starting to stand up right b4 impact) Any suggestions on how to maintain one’s posture in order to be proficient at ur forget ball advice????
If you are losing spine angle you are hitting with your arms. The harder you hit, the more you will look up. This is human nature. So you need to slow down and get the positions building a great swing. Once you get the great swing and accurate positions you then speed it up by touching your legs faster NOT by hitting harder with your arms.
Paul, I can honestly say I am pleased and excited about your website and the tips and drills you have been teaching. My problem right now, being a newby, is it’s like trying to drink from a firehose. !! You are so right about “the ball is the problem”. I have a great looking practice swing, but then when the ball appears, 60 years of old “muscle memory” clicks in and there goes the swing down the tubes. I know it will take lots of practice to “re-groove” my muscle memory, so wish me luck. Also, one more thing. Right now I just can seem to hit my fairway woods off of short grass. It’s wormburners every time.??? Not sure what to do.
This can be a serious problem. You should be on this site to work on areas of your swing. All tips are included in the Dashboard. So you will eventually see the daily tips when you are working on that specific section. In other words, you don’t have to watch the daily tips.
If you don’t know I want you to do tons of practice swings while hitting less balls. My practice swings are different than yours. My practice swings have you hitting precise positions that give you feedback. Right now, when you do them you do not know these precise positions and you do not check for the feedback so you know you are doing them exactly right. So you put a ball down and you hit with your arms because you are not making the positions more important than the ball. So go here: https://ignitiongolf.com/start-here/
There you will see the lessons and positions I teach to all students in order. Work on them one at a time and supplement them with this from those areas. You can find these areas in the dashboard or on the original site under GOLF TIPS > FULL SWING in the red navigation bar.
You’ve been with me a while. Not sure why you would be trying to hit the ball. You know this does not work. Focus on the position and the feedback associated with each position. Hit less balls and do more practice swing build a great swing. A great swing will hit great shots.
To be sure to accélérate from Point A to Point B ,I say to myself ,when swinging ,1,2,3 SWING : 123 is when going back ,SWING when MOVING in the throughswing .
It is not even about accelerating at this point. It is about recognizing point a and point b which few people are ever thinking about. If you can’t even do this there’s no point accelerating.
Paul, I have been a member for 6+ months and this tip finally tied it together for me. I played my best round in months (79) a couple of days ago using the swing thought “A to B”.
I am your typical golfer, picked up the game as an adult and was an arm swinger for 30 years until I signed up for your instruction. I am excited about my results and anticipate getting even better in the future. Keep up the good work. Your detailed, clear explanations are perfect for my learning. I’ve seen so many tips from others over the years that say “do this” and then give you no clue how to “do that”. Thanks again for your clear instructions! PS: Love it when you give a little laugh in your tips. After all, this is not life and death here but is sure is fun to finally get better.
Sounds like you were hitting the the ball. This tip took your mind off of hitting. Into the future, keep thinking this way. If you go from point A to point B the ball will be hit. Just have to trust it.
Just trying to have fun out there. Glad you like it.
I’ve been following your teaching concepts for about a year and a half, and my golf game has improved. However, I never paid enough attention to the touch your head position. My focus was on touching the knees and powerless arms. Now that I’ve began to focus on touching the head, everything is falling into place. I’m hitting good, solid golf shots almost every time. It’s amazing what focusing on touching the head does.
I no longer worry about the ball, and just try to make sure I get to my touch the head position every time. And like I said previously, I’m hitting shots better and more solid than ever. Now my misses are due to under clubbing, tempo, or perhaps aiming a little to far right or left, which for me, are a lot easier to fix. But when I setup over the ball, I have confidence that I’m going to hit a good shot.
I was getting okay results without focusing on touch the head, but was still frustrated with poor results. And then I finally said, let me just focus on the finishing position, and even though I’ve heard you say it’s the most important position, it took awhile for that to sink in. So for those out there who have just looked past the finishing position, stop what you’re doing, and listen to all the touch your head tips. Don’t just pick and choose what you want to focus on like I did. It’s there for a reason.
My question is when you swing down I did not see your head and right shoulder tilted as you hit the ball like in previous tips. Please clarify. Thanks.
The previous tip is a drill I was not doing a real golf swing. I want people getting the tilt. I said in the tip you will over do it and potentially hang back too much. Once you add lower body you will do it the right amount.
I am noticing my point B, if I don’t consciously take the club to between the ears (touch the head), is the bottom of my neck. Could you please help explain what I need to correct so that my swing naturally has the club get touch the head without me manipulating it there. Thanks.
It your arms were truly loose it would go there. Why do the great majority of tour players go there yet I didn’t teach them? There has to be a reason. What I am saying is the club is mass. Your body is an axis. If you turn an axis the mass would swing at 90 degrees to it 100% of the time. So turning off your arms would allow the club to split the ears. That is why this is so important. If you are not ending up parallel to your ears (whether lower than your ears or above doesn’t matter) your arms are too tight.
I know you will be too tight because I have done this now for 25 years and it’s rare for anyone to have their arms as loose as I want them. So I want you to manually set it between your ears. It has to be a fluid path there though. You cannot re-route it ending up between your ears. So you manually set it there in the exact position for a while. Feel it every time. Then you turn your arms off in the future. I would be swinging towards a mirror nightly until I got it. Doesn’t take a long.
Thanks Paul. I am having great difficulty holding on to the club firmly so there is no gap, and yet keep arm muscles relaxed. Would really appreciate your help. My hand and arm muscles seem to work together; at least that’s what I am feeling, and when I grip tighter I am finding I can’t start my rotation quick enough before the arms take over.
Paul: Even though we are physically different, I just tried to look like you in my swing. As I worked at it, I realized that my shoulder angles were too steep. I noticed that your shoulders turn on a flatter angle than mine, and on a more level plane. Once I modeled this in my swing, I began to get closer to your swing. Just throwing this out there because I think it merits consideration. SS
Very good. This is what I did many years ago when I was working on the swing. I would have an open book near a mirror or cut out pictures and tape them to a mirror and copy them. This is what I would assume everyone would be doing. I guess this isn’t the case so maybe I have to do a tip on it or figure something out that will help people learn it this way.
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35 Responses to “Drill – Point A to Point B”
October 20, 2013
JimMerwin10-20-13
Hi, Paul.
Great drill. I will try it today, tomorrow, the next day etc.till I get it down.
Thanks.
Jim
October 21, 2013
GerryCarriereHi Paul. The last few tips have been great, especially now that here, in central Canada, the courses are now closed. In getting ready to golf in Arizona this winter, I am practicing in the garage. Arms off, touching my legs and the shaft ending at the back of my head is all going quite well. I am well in balance. There is no ball to hit and I have a small carpet on the cement floor to protect my clubs. The problem with my going from A to B is that my club will, too often bounce off the floor, especally with my fairway wood. It’s better if I think of starting my turn a little sooner. I also noticied that in turning off my arms I sometimes have a loose left hand grip on my back swing. If i concentrate on the grip, this helps too. Do you have any other solutions to what is obviously fat shots or hitting the ground before the imaginary ball? (I am obviously doing something wrong and not in sync).
October 21, 2013
Paul WilsonGerry,
Just hold the club off the ground a little to do your practice swings. You are right, getting off the back foot makes it better. This is because fat shots are caused because you have too much weight on your back foot through impact.
Sometimes I brush the ground sometimes I don’t. I really don’t even think about it. All I am thinking about is going from point A to point B. Just keep doing the practice swings holding the club slightly off the ground and you will be fine.
You definitely need to be holding onto the club yet keep your wrists loose as you swing the club. I just did a tip on this here:
Secure Grip Loose Wrists: https://ignitiongolf.com/secure-grip-loose-wrists/
October 23, 2013
GerryCarriereThanks for this Paul. i did view your Secure Grip Loose Wrists tip. Quick qhestion: Is your grip presure always at 8 out 10 through out the whole swing? Thanks again.
October 23, 2013
Paul WilsonGerry,
Yes, every full swing I take I am holding onto the club with this secure grip pressure while keeping the wrists loose.
October 22, 2013
PETERMCMULLENPaul, I would like to know where in Arizona Gerry Carriere plays golf during the winter months. I live in Arizona and would like to play and practice with others who are following your teachings. The golf pro at our club has heard me speak of you and your method of teaching the golf swing. He recently watched one of your video clips on the internet. He liked what you said so much that he began to talk to me about your approach. I loaned him my copies of your DVDs and book. I have been away for he past month, but will be returning to Arizona at the end of the week. I hope to work some with him, but it would be great to meet other students following your teachings.
October 22, 2013
Paul WilsonPeter,
I will send Gerry a message so keep your eye out for a response. Thanks for the promo to your pro. Glad he and I are on the same page.
October 23, 2013
GerryCarriereI did get your email and will be in touch with Peter. Thanks Paul
October 31, 2013
BillyCrouchPaul have been working on the point a to point b drill not much luck. Today during my walk I kept saying turn the shoulders set the wrists rotate the hips a&b. At the range today I shortened that to turn set rotate and it started to come together. The club just went along for the ride it was great.
October 31, 2013
Paul WilsonBilly,
It’s almost the same thing. Just touch your head at the end and you’ve got it. Now keep doing it.
June 11, 2016
richmosneygood evening paul—only 1 thing to state–have been following you for quite some time now,and the main problem i seem to repeat constantly is losing my spine angle right b4 impact (ie, starting to stand up right b4 impact) Any suggestions on how to maintain one’s posture in order to be proficient at ur forget ball advice????
June 12, 2016
Paul WilsonRich,
If you are losing spine angle you are hitting with your arms. The harder you hit, the more you will look up. This is human nature. So you need to slow down and get the positions building a great swing. Once you get the great swing and accurate positions you then speed it up by touching your legs faster NOT by hitting harder with your arms.
Watch:
Spine Angle Follow Through: https://ignitiongolf.com/follow-through-eyes-tilted/
Topping: https://ignitiongolf.com/stop-topping-golf-ball/
Stop Topping Your Fairway Woods: https://ignitiongolf.com/stop-topping-fairway-woods/
Topping: Watch for the Blur: https://ignitiongolf.com/watch-for-the-blur/
Spine Angle Follow Through: https://ignitiongolf.com/follow-through-eyes-tilted/
Good Habits Series – Topping or Thin Shots: https://ignitiongolf.com/good-habits-topping/
June 11, 2016
BillTinneyPaul, I can honestly say I am pleased and excited about your website and the tips and drills you have been teaching. My problem right now, being a newby, is it’s like trying to drink from a firehose. !! You are so right about “the ball is the problem”. I have a great looking practice swing, but then when the ball appears, 60 years of old “muscle memory” clicks in and there goes the swing down the tubes. I know it will take lots of practice to “re-groove” my muscle memory, so wish me luck. Also, one more thing. Right now I just can seem to hit my fairway woods off of short grass. It’s wormburners every time.??? Not sure what to do.
Thanks again for all your great tips !!
Bill
June 12, 2016
Paul WilsonBill,
This can be a serious problem. You should be on this site to work on areas of your swing. All tips are included in the Dashboard. So you will eventually see the daily tips when you are working on that specific section. In other words, you don’t have to watch the daily tips.
If you don’t know I want you to do tons of practice swings while hitting less balls. My practice swings are different than yours. My practice swings have you hitting precise positions that give you feedback. Right now, when you do them you do not know these precise positions and you do not check for the feedback so you know you are doing them exactly right. So you put a ball down and you hit with your arms because you are not making the positions more important than the ball. So go here: https://ignitiongolf.com/start-here/
There you will see the lessons and positions I teach to all students in order. Work on them one at a time and supplement them with this from those areas. You can find these areas in the dashboard or on the original site under GOLF TIPS > FULL SWING in the red navigation bar.
Also, here is the tip on fairway woods:
Stop Topping Your Fairway Woods: https://ignitiongolf.com/stop-topping-fairway-woods/
June 11, 2016
DanSebenaPaul, what a great tip! I have been trying to smack the ball, and that does not work!! I will go to the range and learn your drill. Thanks, Dan.Sebena
June 12, 2016
Paul WilsonDan,
You’ve been with me a while. Not sure why you would be trying to hit the ball. You know this does not work. Focus on the position and the feedback associated with each position. Hit less balls and do more practice swing build a great swing. A great swing will hit great shots.
June 14, 2016
DanSebenaThanks Paul I did get off track. I have been hitting lots of balls, so I’ll cut back on that and practice my swing
June 14, 2016
Paul WilsonDan,
It can easily happen. You need to doing practice swings nightly working on the positions. This way it never falls apart.
June 11, 2016
RaymondCHASTELTo be sure to accélérate from Point A to Point B ,I say to myself ,when swinging ,1,2,3 SWING : 123 is when going back ,SWING when MOVING in the throughswing .
June 12, 2016
Paul WilsonRaymond,
It is not even about accelerating at this point. It is about recognizing point a and point b which few people are ever thinking about. If you can’t even do this there’s no point accelerating.
June 12, 2016
NormanSchneiderGreat tip, I’m seeing my handicap each month.
June 12, 2016
Paul WilsonNorman,
Very good. I love hearing it. Keep up the good work.
June 13, 2016
ThomasCrankPaul, I have been a member for 6+ months and this tip finally tied it together for me. I played my best round in months (79) a couple of days ago using the swing thought “A to B”.
I am your typical golfer, picked up the game as an adult and was an arm swinger for 30 years until I signed up for your instruction. I am excited about my results and anticipate getting even better in the future. Keep up the good work. Your detailed, clear explanations are perfect for my learning. I’ve seen so many tips from others over the years that say “do this” and then give you no clue how to “do that”. Thanks again for your clear instructions! PS: Love it when you give a little laugh in your tips. After all, this is not life and death here but is sure is fun to finally get better.
June 13, 2016
Paul WilsonThomas,
That’s great news. I love hearing it.
Sounds like you were hitting the the ball. This tip took your mind off of hitting. Into the future, keep thinking this way. If you go from point A to point B the ball will be hit. Just have to trust it.
Just trying to have fun out there. Glad you like it.
June 27, 2016
tedvernonPaul,
I’ve been following your teaching concepts for about a year and a half, and my golf game has improved. However, I never paid enough attention to the touch your head position. My focus was on touching the knees and powerless arms. Now that I’ve began to focus on touching the head, everything is falling into place. I’m hitting good, solid golf shots almost every time. It’s amazing what focusing on touching the head does.
I no longer worry about the ball, and just try to make sure I get to my touch the head position every time. And like I said previously, I’m hitting shots better and more solid than ever. Now my misses are due to under clubbing, tempo, or perhaps aiming a little to far right or left, which for me, are a lot easier to fix. But when I setup over the ball, I have confidence that I’m going to hit a good shot.
Thanks for your continued teachings!
June 27, 2016
Paul WilsonTed,
How could you overlook that position. This is HUGE is you want power and consistency. Now, you need to master it. This will be a game changer.
June 27, 2016
tedvernonPaul,
I was getting okay results without focusing on touch the head, but was still frustrated with poor results. And then I finally said, let me just focus on the finishing position, and even though I’ve heard you say it’s the most important position, it took awhile for that to sink in. So for those out there who have just looked past the finishing position, stop what you’re doing, and listen to all the touch your head tips. Don’t just pick and choose what you want to focus on like I did. It’s there for a reason.
October 7, 2016
ErsonReligiosoMy question is when you swing down I did not see your head and right shoulder tilted as you hit the ball like in previous tips. Please clarify. Thanks.
October 7, 2016
Paul WilsonErson,
The previous tip is a drill I was not doing a real golf swing. I want people getting the tilt. I said in the tip you will over do it and potentially hang back too much. Once you add lower body you will do it the right amount.
January 1, 2017
AmgadBotrosPaul,
I am noticing my point B, if I don’t consciously take the club to between the ears (touch the head), is the bottom of my neck. Could you please help explain what I need to correct so that my swing naturally has the club get touch the head without me manipulating it there. Thanks.
January 1, 2017
Paul WilsonAmgad,
It your arms were truly loose it would go there. Why do the great majority of tour players go there yet I didn’t teach them? There has to be a reason. What I am saying is the club is mass. Your body is an axis. If you turn an axis the mass would swing at 90 degrees to it 100% of the time. So turning off your arms would allow the club to split the ears. That is why this is so important. If you are not ending up parallel to your ears (whether lower than your ears or above doesn’t matter) your arms are too tight.
I know you will be too tight because I have done this now for 25 years and it’s rare for anyone to have their arms as loose as I want them. So I want you to manually set it between your ears. It has to be a fluid path there though. You cannot re-route it ending up between your ears. So you manually set it there in the exact position for a while. Feel it every time. Then you turn your arms off in the future. I would be swinging towards a mirror nightly until I got it. Doesn’t take a long.
January 2, 2017
AmgadBotrosThanks Paul. I am having great difficulty holding on to the club firmly so there is no gap, and yet keep arm muscles relaxed. Would really appreciate your help. My hand and arm muscles seem to work together; at least that’s what I am feeling, and when I grip tighter I am finding I can’t start my rotation quick enough before the arms take over.
January 3, 2017
Paul WilsonAmgad,
This is how I got it:
Secure Grip Loose Wrists: https://ignitiongolf.com/secure-grip-loose-wrists/
Secure Top of Backswing: https://ignitiongolf.com/secure-top-backswing/
It can be done.
March 24, 2018
StevenSeelyPaul: Even though we are physically different, I just tried to look like you in my swing. As I worked at it, I realized that my shoulder angles were too steep. I noticed that your shoulders turn on a flatter angle than mine, and on a more level plane. Once I modeled this in my swing, I began to get closer to your swing. Just throwing this out there because I think it merits consideration. SS
March 25, 2018
Paul WilsonSteven,
Very good. This is what I did many years ago when I was working on the swing. I would have an open book near a mirror or cut out pictures and tape them to a mirror and copy them. This is what I would assume everyone would be doing. I guess this isn’t the case so maybe I have to do a tip on it or figure something out that will help people learn it this way.
If you need it you can find my swing here: https://ignitiongolf.com/start-here/ Just scroll down the page for downloads.