Hi Paul,
I am working on loose wrists but need help with the correct wrist position.
With the club at address should the wrists hinge with thumbs up and down or should they hinge with the thumbs left and right I.e. a waggle?
If it is up and down is the aim to release the thumbs down at impact I.e. cast the club at impact (I don’t mean cast from the top)?
If it is up/down how does this unhinge work with the roll over drill?
The wrists hinge up and down. There is rotation too but this would occur due to mass (club) wanting to swing to its widest point which is what I refer to the release point which is approximately 2 feet after impact with irons and 3 feet after with driver. At this point, the club rehinges.
Yes, the unhinge or rehinge works with the roll over drill because the roll over loosens the wrists. If it is a hinge you need to loosen it. If so, it would work perfectly.
I recently downloaded your Video Series “How to Gain Distance.” An awesome bargain at $7 for the five-video set. In this series Paul uses Long Driver Mike Dobbyn to discuss and co-teach Paul’s swing concepts. Most important, this series is not just about distance but a bring-together of all of Paul’s swing teaching concepts. I highly recommend my fellow IG members spend the price of a restaurant beer and get this series. Video 4 with the “How To” is a great 25-minute teaching lesson from set up to finish with Mr. Dobbyn. Paul, please post the link for the members to get this gem.
One other item of note. When I was trying to develop my downswing trigger, I initially was focusing on straightening the left leg since I am an old slider. While this worked, I still have had trouble getting my hips all the way around. I briefly experimented with trying to get my left rear pant pocket back around me. I was surprised to hear Mr. Dobbyn state that this is his downswing trigger/thought. For me it gets my left leg locked, gets me all the way around, and most important, focuses me on rotational hip movement as opposed to lateral hip movement.
Perhaps you could do a tip or add this to your recommended downswing triggers.
Paul,
I’ve recently had some success at the range feeling as if I’m hitting the ball with the butt of the club. I also notice that to get into a position to do this I have to be turning my body as you recommend. I was wondering if you ever teach this as it seems directly related to the lag issue.
Thanks, Paul. I really find your lessons very useful and fun. Youl get things down to the basics of physics in a way I can understand. Keep up the good work!
I do not “feel” like i am pushing off my right back foot instep. Should I? It feels like i am just rotating my hips which causes that front leg to start to straighten and the back foot to move up off the heel onto the toe.
I do not think i am getting the back right foot drive correct, because i am still pushing the ball tot eh right and slicing bad shots because i think i am staying closed or blocked. Could you explain more of what the back right foot should be doing and the feel?
Thank you as always. Really enjoy your program.
Bret
Your lessons have really helped me with my golf swing. When I retired and decided to play more golf, I was lamenting to one of my best friends, who works for the USGA, that I would never be very good since I’m only 5’4” and at 69 not as strong as I used to be. He told me I should start watching the LPGA. He said I was taller and stronger than many of the women that were hitting the ball well over 250 yards. That comment and seeing one of your advertisements led me to your body swing.
I’m now hitting the ball consistently in the fairway and after working on my hip turn speed and turning my left toe out just a little more to get my belt buckle through the turn, my distance has improved to the point that my weekly golf group asked me if I’ve been lifting weights.
As you were going through the wrist hinge in the video I was wondering when you should focus on making the hinge in relation to contact with the ball, before or at contact?
Glad you are doing well. Size is a non-issue. I did a tip with a 12 year a few months ago who hit it 250. He was around that tall. Glad you decided to get into it and are doing well. It sounds like it is coming. Just follow these tips for even more power:
Thanks for the refresher video. Being a bit over 70 I am hoping to improve after only starting golf properly 6 years ago after retirement. Pleased to say I am improving thanks to your tips (plus a few lessons here of course).
From now on I have decided to prioritise:
1: Loose wrists
2: Concentrate on swing plane – nothing is more frustrating than a shot that goes off target. I will trade accuracy for distance any day.
3 Lag angle and release timing.
4. Stop topping the ball, sepecially with my 5 & 6 iron, and thinning chip shots from time to time.
Perhaps you would agree that the increased rotation speed can be an “add on extra” for extra distance if I can get the other items up and running better.
I have decided to not try to increase hips and body rotation speed until 1-3 are working more reliably. It helps to keep the ball on the fairway and lag a bit of distance when I see other players hitting far but all over the place.
Keep the videos coming, they are always excellent. I would welcome a bit of insight on club selection, Not sure what all these wedge angles do and the best mix for a bag of clubs.
Confidence breeds distance so yes, hitting fairways is a good thing. Once you are ready for more distance let me know and I will post the tips you need to do.
I will put the club selection on the list and try to shoot it. I think I tried it years ago and it didn’t sound right so I didn’t post it. I will try it again in the near future.
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13 Responses to “Distance Elements”
November 11, 2018
GrahamHaleHi Paul,
I am working on loose wrists but need help with the correct wrist position.
With the club at address should the wrists hinge with thumbs up and down or should they hinge with the thumbs left and right I.e. a waggle?
If it is up and down is the aim to release the thumbs down at impact I.e. cast the club at impact (I don’t mean cast from the top)?
If it is up/down how does this unhinge work with the roll over drill?
November 12, 2018
Paul WilsonGraham,
The wrists hinge up and down. There is rotation too but this would occur due to mass (club) wanting to swing to its widest point which is what I refer to the release point which is approximately 2 feet after impact with irons and 3 feet after with driver. At this point, the club rehinges.
Yes, the unhinge or rehinge works with the roll over drill because the roll over loosens the wrists. If it is a hinge you need to loosen it. If so, it would work perfectly.
DRILL: 3 Ways To Roll It Over: https://ignitiongolf.com/3-ways-to-roll/
Roll Around The Stick: https://ignitiongolf.com/roll-around-stick/
Clarifying the Roll Over Drill: https://ignitiongolf.com/clarifying-roll-drill
Another Reason To Do The Roll Over Drill: https://ignitiongolf.com/another-reason-to-roll/
How Long Should You Do The Roll Over Drill: https://ignitiongolf.com/roll-over-drill-how-long/
DRILL: Smooth Wrist Release: https://ignitiongolf.com/smooth-wrist-release/
November 11, 2018
PaulDInceccoHi Paul. You need to get some black shoe laces! You are blinding me! I can’t focus. All I see are those white laces. 😀
November 12, 2018
Paul WilsonPaul,
Those are my new shoes. Let me get some dirt on them.
November 11, 2018
MichaelBarrettPaul,
This is a great video to post this comment.
I recently downloaded your Video Series “How to Gain Distance.” An awesome bargain at $7 for the five-video set. In this series Paul uses Long Driver Mike Dobbyn to discuss and co-teach Paul’s swing concepts. Most important, this series is not just about distance but a bring-together of all of Paul’s swing teaching concepts. I highly recommend my fellow IG members spend the price of a restaurant beer and get this series. Video 4 with the “How To” is a great 25-minute teaching lesson from set up to finish with Mr. Dobbyn. Paul, please post the link for the members to get this gem.
One other item of note. When I was trying to develop my downswing trigger, I initially was focusing on straightening the left leg since I am an old slider. While this worked, I still have had trouble getting my hips all the way around. I briefly experimented with trying to get my left rear pant pocket back around me. I was surprised to hear Mr. Dobbyn state that this is his downswing trigger/thought. For me it gets my left leg locked, gets me all the way around, and most important, focuses me on rotational hip movement as opposed to lateral hip movement.
Perhaps you could do a tip or add this to your recommended downswing triggers.
Thanks for Making Golf Great Again!
Mike
November 12, 2018
Paul WilsonMichael,
That is a great video. Had a great time filming it. Mike and I are good friends. I’m going to try to get him to do some times.
This is a good trigger. Kind of in line with turn the forward hip. So he has a trigger. Everyone else needs one too. Glad you caught that.
November 11, 2018
GaryMonittoPaul,
I’ve recently had some success at the range feeling as if I’m hitting the ball with the butt of the club. I also notice that to get into a position to do this I have to be turning my body as you recommend. I was wondering if you ever teach this as it seems directly related to the lag issue.
Thanks, Paul. I really find your lessons very useful and fun. Youl get things down to the basics of physics in a way I can understand. Keep up the good work!
November 12, 2018
BretHopkinsExcellent video and guidance.
I do not “feel” like i am pushing off my right back foot instep. Should I? It feels like i am just rotating my hips which causes that front leg to start to straighten and the back foot to move up off the heel onto the toe.
I do not think i am getting the back right foot drive correct, because i am still pushing the ball tot eh right and slicing bad shots because i think i am staying closed or blocked. Could you explain more of what the back right foot should be doing and the feel?
Thank you as always. Really enjoy your program.
Bret
November 12, 2018
Paul WilsonBret,
Glad you like it. Thanks.
That is the trigger I use. This doesn’t mean you have to. You need to choose one from this tip:
Try The Triggers: https://ignitiongolf.com/try-the-triggers/
That is the correct feeling when you apply the trigger. Make sure the legs touch to get feedback that you did it right.
Sounds like you are pushing sideways. I am pushing circular. Big difference.
Watch this tip:
Secret of the Starting the Downswing (using triggers – off big toe curve): https://ignitiongolf.com/shift-roll/
And:
Lower Body Through Impact (top View): https://ignitiongolf.com/back-knee-impact/
November 12, 2018
JayReedPaul
Your lessons have really helped me with my golf swing. When I retired and decided to play more golf, I was lamenting to one of my best friends, who works for the USGA, that I would never be very good since I’m only 5’4” and at 69 not as strong as I used to be. He told me I should start watching the LPGA. He said I was taller and stronger than many of the women that were hitting the ball well over 250 yards. That comment and seeing one of your advertisements led me to your body swing.
I’m now hitting the ball consistently in the fairway and after working on my hip turn speed and turning my left toe out just a little more to get my belt buckle through the turn, my distance has improved to the point that my weekly golf group asked me if I’ve been lifting weights.
As you were going through the wrist hinge in the video I was wondering when you should focus on making the hinge in relation to contact with the ball, before or at contact?
Thanks again.
Jay
November 12, 2018
Paul WilsonJay,
Glad you are doing well. Size is a non-issue. I did a tip with a 12 year a few months ago who hit it 250. He was around that tall. Glad you decided to get into it and are doing well. It sounds like it is coming. Just follow these tips for even more power:
Up In The Air Drills – Clubhead Release: https://ignitiongolf.com/air-drills-release/
Up In The Air Drills – Speed: https://ignitiongolf.com/air-drills-speed/
Up In The Air Drills – Separation: https://ignitiongolf.com/air-drills-separation/
I am not thinking of rehinging. I am thinking of just letting the club go wherever it wants. In doing so it stretches out fully just after impact.
Checkpoints – Release Point: https://ignitiongolf.com/checkpoints-release-point/
How to Release the Golf Club: https://ignitiongolf.com/impact-wrist-release/
Do Not Disturb The Mass: https://ignitiongolf.com/do-not-disturb-the-mass/
Hopefully, that explains it.
November 20, 2018
DerekSharpPaul,
Thanks for the refresher video. Being a bit over 70 I am hoping to improve after only starting golf properly 6 years ago after retirement. Pleased to say I am improving thanks to your tips (plus a few lessons here of course).
From now on I have decided to prioritise:
1: Loose wrists
2: Concentrate on swing plane – nothing is more frustrating than a shot that goes off target. I will trade accuracy for distance any day.
3 Lag angle and release timing.
4. Stop topping the ball, sepecially with my 5 & 6 iron, and thinning chip shots from time to time.
Perhaps you would agree that the increased rotation speed can be an “add on extra” for extra distance if I can get the other items up and running better.
I have decided to not try to increase hips and body rotation speed until 1-3 are working more reliably. It helps to keep the ball on the fairway and lag a bit of distance when I see other players hitting far but all over the place.
Keep the videos coming, they are always excellent. I would welcome a bit of insight on club selection, Not sure what all these wedge angles do and the best mix for a bag of clubs.
Best regards
Derek
November 20, 2018
Paul WilsonDerek,
1. Great
2. Plane – you can flatten the plane by turning the arms off and starting the body first.
2 Things Flatten the Plane: https://ignitiongolf.com/2-things-flatten-plane/
See The Plane Flatten: https://ignitiongolf.com/see-the-plane-flatten/
3. Lag – do the drills below:
DRILL: Lag And Release: https://ignitiongolf.com/expect-working-lag-angle/
DRILL: Lag Ear to Ear: https://ignitiongolf.com/lag-release-drill
There are more. Just enter lag in the search box on the right side of the red navigation bar on any page.
4. Topping – this is you hitting hard. Do you top it when you swing easy? Doubt it.
Look For This Clue: https://ignitiongolf.com/thin-topped-clues/
Thin chips – the tips below might help. You can also enter chip into the search box too.
How To Stop Scooping Your Chip Shots: https://ignitiongolf.com/stop-scooping-chip-shots/
Another Way To Stop Scooping Chip Shots: https://ignitiongolf.com/stop-scooping-chip-shots-2/
How To Chip Consistently: https://ignitiongolf.com/chip-consistently/
Confidence breeds distance so yes, hitting fairways is a good thing. Once you are ready for more distance let me know and I will post the tips you need to do.
I will put the club selection on the list and try to shoot it. I think I tried it years ago and it didn’t sound right so I didn’t post it. I will try it again in the near future.