Hi Paul,
I played the other day. I started off ok but out of the blue I came up with a hard pull hook which I seemed to be able to stop by by pausing at the top of my swing before starting down. It felt weird but it worked.
I haven’t seen you do a tip on how long you wait at the top before starting down. I get anxious in my swing at times and in trying to create more speed momentum, I don’t get the club all the way back before starting back down and don’t get the club set and probably come over the top. The comment I hear most times from everyone is visually I appear to be “jumping at the ball” instead of swinging the club smoothly and on balance.
The question as it relates to the swing path is do you think this is a valid correction or something you want to practice, pausing at the top to collect, and then start down.
Thanks,
Jeff
Hard pull hook is you hitting it with your arms. The pausing at the top took your arms out of the swing so you started to use your body to hit the ball. You cannot pause if your arms are swinging really hard at it.
You are not really pausing at the top you are changing direction. The clubhead would be the last thing to get to 0 mph. If you started the body first in the downswing, it would be the last thing to start moving so it appears to pause.
Very fine And useful lesson,Paul.An exercise I practise regularly to oblige me to come into the downswing from the inside ,is to swing with a slight slope in front OF me. As if it was an uphill lie .It obliges you to flatten your swing .
Another exercise to force you to rotate on the front leg is to swing up a slight slope OF an uphill lie ,you have to push hard off the back foot to get through the ball And into the front leg.
Paul, just a comment; you always show an outside in swing very exaggerated. After watching this video, I realized that I was swinging outside in. Not like you show it , but I take the club back with my shoulders and come down just a little outside in causing a fade sometime slice. I started working on coming through inside out and what a difference! Every club hit straighter, sometimes draw and longer! Just a small adjustment. Watching the club swing by the alignment stick really helped!
Yes, I show it this way so people can see what I am doing. Even if it the person is just slightly doing it you should get the same flawed result so if the person is getting this result they would be outside in. In the future I will try to explain it this way. Thanks. Yes, you need to attack from the inside. Watch:
Hi Paul George Welton here. I am shanking my 6-7-8-9 irons. Short yardage 15-30 no problem,but when I try to go for longer yardage I shank.I have tried your tips but no success.stand taller,weight on my laces,turning, I am 89 play bogie golf but have never shanked in my life quite frustratin
Leaning back to create an inside-out swing creates the problem of getting the weight of the lower body shifted forward in order to hit the club first and then a divot ahead of the point of impact. For young players they can do the great C-shape at follow through. How do older players do it?
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14 Responses to “Power Leak Series – Swing Path”
December 27, 2015
JuleHerbertIs the TaylorMade M-1 Driver the “best thing ever” or what? Hope to be in Vegas in April.
December 28, 2015
JeffLubinHi Paul,
I played the other day. I started off ok but out of the blue I came up with a hard pull hook which I seemed to be able to stop by by pausing at the top of my swing before starting down. It felt weird but it worked.
I haven’t seen you do a tip on how long you wait at the top before starting down. I get anxious in my swing at times and in trying to create more speed momentum, I don’t get the club all the way back before starting back down and don’t get the club set and probably come over the top. The comment I hear most times from everyone is visually I appear to be “jumping at the ball” instead of swinging the club smoothly and on balance.
The question as it relates to the swing path is do you think this is a valid correction or something you want to practice, pausing at the top to collect, and then start down.
Thanks,
Jeff
December 28, 2015
Paul WilsonJeff,
Hard pull hook is you hitting it with your arms. The pausing at the top took your arms out of the swing so you started to use your body to hit the ball. You cannot pause if your arms are swinging really hard at it.
Pause At Top: https://ignitiongolf.com/pause-top-backswing/
Drill: Count In the Backswing (flip club): https://ignitiongolf.com/drill-count-in-backswing/
DRILL: Slow Backswing: https://ignitiongolf.com/drill-slow-backswing/
You are not really pausing at the top you are changing direction. The clubhead would be the last thing to get to 0 mph. If you started the body first in the downswing, it would be the last thing to start moving so it appears to pause.
These may help too:
How to Get Consistent Swing Tempo: https://ignitiongolf.com/golf-swing-tempo/
Tempo: https://ignitiongolf.com/consistent-swing-tempo/
December 28, 2015
JeffLubinPS. I am “thinking swing with my body” but I still get the same result..frustrating
December 28, 2015
Paul WilsonJeff,
There are tons of pulling tips on the site. They are in the dashboard under CURES > PULL or on the original site under SWING TIPS > CURES > PULL
Here they are too:
Pull: https://ignitiongolf.com/cure-pulled-shot/
Pull 2 (expanding on it): https://ignitiongolf.com/cure-pulling/
Stop Coming Over the Top: https://ignitiongolf.com/cure-stop-over-the-top/
Body Tilt – Left Right: https://ignitiongolf.com/cure-pulling/
Cures – Manually Tilt To Stop Pulling: https://ignitiongolf.com/manually-tilt-cure-pull/
Remembering How Cure Pulled Shots: https://ignitiongolf.com/remembering-cure-pulled-shots/
2 Things Flatten the Plane: https://ignitiongolf.com/2-things-flatten-plane/
December 29, 2015
TIMADAMSPaul I understand “TheClubFix”is no longer with RG why don’t yopuget them back with you?
December 29, 2015
Paul WilsonTim,
I met with Bronson about getting together. Still waiting to hear back. This was months ago. He was totally into doing something.
December 29, 2015
RaymondCHASTELVery fine And useful lesson,Paul.An exercise I practise regularly to oblige me to come into the downswing from the inside ,is to swing with a slight slope in front OF me. As if it was an uphill lie .It obliges you to flatten your swing .
Another exercise to force you to rotate on the front leg is to swing up a slight slope OF an uphill lie ,you have to push hard off the back foot to get through the ball And into the front leg.
December 30, 2015
Paul WilsonRaymond,
That thought would work just fine. I did this tip about it here:
DRILL: Swing Up with Driver: https://ignitiongolf.com/drill-swing-up-driver/
August 10, 2019
StephenClutterPaul, just a comment; you always show an outside in swing very exaggerated. After watching this video, I realized that I was swinging outside in. Not like you show it , but I take the club back with my shoulders and come down just a little outside in causing a fade sometime slice. I started working on coming through inside out and what a difference! Every club hit straighter, sometimes draw and longer! Just a small adjustment. Watching the club swing by the alignment stick really helped!
August 12, 2019
Paul WilsonStephen,
Yes, I show it this way so people can see what I am doing. Even if it the person is just slightly doing it you should get the same flawed result so if the person is getting this result they would be outside in. In the future I will try to explain it this way. Thanks. Yes, you need to attack from the inside. Watch:
2 Things Flatten the Plane: https://ignitiongolf.com/2-things-flatten-plane/
See The Plane Flatten: https://ignitiongolf.com/see-the-plane-flatten/
See The Path: https://ignitiongolf.com/see-the-path/
December 26, 2021
GeorgeWeltonHi Paul George Welton here. I am shanking my 6-7-8-9 irons. Short yardage 15-30 no problem,but when I try to go for longer yardage I shank.I have tried your tips but no success.stand taller,weight on my laces,turning, I am 89 play bogie golf but have never shanked in my life quite frustratin
January 15, 2022
Paul WilsonYou are going to shank your lower irons more because the golf clubs are shorter so you end up bending over too much at set up. Check out this tip:
Why Do You Shank A Ball?: https://ignitiongolf.com/why-you-shank/
March 18, 2024
Dale JenkinsLeaning back to create an inside-out swing creates the problem of getting the weight of the lower body shifted forward in order to hit the club first and then a divot ahead of the point of impact. For young players they can do the great C-shape at follow through. How do older players do it?