Paul,
I love your content you have helped me become a much better player. I just paid my monthly payment on the 8th, but I cannot access any of the videos.
thanks
Jacob Tee
I have been doing your drills over the past couple of months and my handicap has come down 4 strokes!
I can’t believe how much I used to use my arms hitting at the ball and now I just swing to the finish by pushing off my right foot and getting my left side out of the way.
Thanks for the concept of ” powerless arms.”
That’s great news. You are starting to see results. I like the fact that you are taking the arms out of the swing. Hopefully, others will read this too and feel what you are feeling. It really does work. People just have to stop doing what they have been doing and try something different.
I try to follow your tip but most of the time end up with using my hand to hit the ball again. Do you suggest using the left hand to snap when releasing the club? How do I prevent my right hand from dominating my left hand upon releasing?
You don’t prevent the right hand from dominating if you are working on your release. Get the release, get the ball hooking, then make both hands powerless, and think about using the legs and hips to power the swing.
You are not understanding how you should be working on this. Master the release first. This means you are not trying to hit great shots. You should be hooking it. Once you can consistently hook it stop thinking of the hands and focus on the body to straighten out the shots.
You are trying to release it and hit perfect shots. This will never work because using your hands you will not be able to square the face perfectly each time within the few degrees necessary. So get one part the get the other.
Paul
Isnt this counter intuitive when working on release drill ? It seems the rolling of the wrists produces some throw out. I understand it is a drill but it still seems to cast a bit. Thoughts?
As much as you think that it is loosening your wrists. What is lag? Lag means something is trailing behind something else. If you turn your body first and your wrists are loose the club would lag.
If you are even watching this tip you really need to be working on curing your slice first. So fix the spin on the ball as I show in this drill. Then work on your body rotation to straighten it back out. The casting is you hitting with your arms thus not lagging the club behind your body rotation. In hitting this is leaning you left on the way down. Lean left and you will hit it left.
All you need to do is start your body before your arms in the downswing Unless your are purposely aiming left with an open face you are hitting with your arms slightly. By initiating with your body you are moving your axis (body) before the mass (club). If you are using physics to hit the ball the mass will always move towards 90 degrees to the axis if you turn an axis first. This means the plane will flatten and you will swing out at it slightly instead of over the top.
I have been fixing swing planes like this for over 22 years. Just keep the arms relaxed because you need that face squaring too. I would do the roll over drill a bunch of times first and get it hooking. The add body as I suggest. The hooking will loose your wrists so the face square better. I would think about 15-20 hooks at your level should do the trick.
Trying to get this lag angle is one of the hardest thing in golf. I noticed whenever i cast the club i tend to hit it fat. Does casting causes fat shots? I know the cure for fat shots is that we have too much weight at the back foot at impact but doesnt casting causes fat shots as well?
This is because you learned as an adult and want to keep hitting. A little kid with minimal arm strength would lag the club immediately from the first ball they hit. So you need to keep loosening up stop trying to hit the ball. Casting causes to use your arms instead of your body so you get trapped with your weight on the back foot at impact. Feel the heel to fix fat shots. If you were thinking body it would be ahead of the arms coming down. What does lag mean? Answer: Something is trailing behind something else. You need your body ahead of your arms throughout the whole swing.
Whenever i go to the range, i see all these amateurs which does not have much knowledge on the golf swing. They do not have problems with fat shots but other obvious faults. They are definitely hitting with their arms without initiating the lower body first in the downswing. How come they are not hitting it fat?
They are not hitting it fat because they are chicken winging it through impact. Chicken wing narrows the arc. If they let their lead arm fully extend they would hit it fat too.
Thanks for your site, and all of the tips over the years. I’ve improved by probably 10-15 shots a round over the time I’ve been a member, and am hoping to go even lower this season.
After watching some slow motion video of my swing, I’m thinking casting may be an issue preventing me from having more consistent contact. What I’m seeing at impact is that I’m standing the club/handle upright, and I’m having some toe-deep divots. I believe this is coming from casting from the top, and as a result, is a compensation fault to prevent from hitting fat as a result of the wide arc generated from the casting move. This tip seems like it would be a good to maintain the lag angle, and not need to have a compensation move for the steep downswing caused by casting. Am I on to something with this thinking?
Glad you are going well. I love hearing about improvement. It never gets old.
If you are toe deep with your divots you are looking/raising up through impact. Why would you do that? Well, if you are trying to hit something you will look to see what you hit.
Also, you could be too low at address. If you are too tilted you will stand up. So do the new taller setup. If I stand you up at address you have no reason to stand up. The checkpoint is that you can see the club and ball not your toes. So check this asap.
If you have the set up but still toe deep then you are most likely swinging too hard with the arms. You are mentioning casting which is most certainly you hitting with your arms. So you really need to take this energy out of your arms. Loosen up way more than you think. Type in the search box Powerless Arms and all tips I have done on this will come up.
Fat shots – too much weight on your back foot at impact. Need to do the touch the legs position as soon as you start down. If you get off the back foot you will not hit it fat even if you cast it.
Every night you need to be loosening your wrists and doing my favorite drill holding the club in the air. This will get your legs and hips moving. Make sure you are working on the touch the legs position (nightly).
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21 Responses to “How to Cure Casting”
April 11, 2013
JacobTeePaul,
I love your content you have helped me become a much better player. I just paid my monthly payment on the 8th, but I cannot access any of the videos.
thanks
Jacob Tee
April 11, 2013
Paul WilsonJacob,
Glad you like the tips. Thanks for the feedback. I have you all set up. This is a PayPal issue.
April 16, 2013
RobertRiendeauHello Paul,
I have been doing your drills over the past couple of months and my handicap has come down 4 strokes!
I can’t believe how much I used to use my arms hitting at the ball and now I just swing to the finish by pushing off my right foot and getting my left side out of the way.
Thanks for the concept of ” powerless arms.”
Bob R.
April 17, 2013
Paul WilsonRobert,
That’s great news. You are starting to see results. I like the fact that you are taking the arms out of the swing. Hopefully, others will read this too and feel what you are feeling. It really does work. People just have to stop doing what they have been doing and try something different.
May 27, 2013
NiponVaniyapunHi Paul
I try to follow your tip but most of the time end up with using my hand to hit the ball again. Do you suggest using the left hand to snap when releasing the club? How do I prevent my right hand from dominating my left hand upon releasing?
Thanks
May 27, 2013
Paul WilsonNipon,
You don’t prevent the right hand from dominating if you are working on your release. Get the release, get the ball hooking, then make both hands powerless, and think about using the legs and hips to power the swing.
You are not understanding how you should be working on this. Master the release first. This means you are not trying to hit great shots. You should be hooking it. Once you can consistently hook it stop thinking of the hands and focus on the body to straighten out the shots.
You are trying to release it and hit perfect shots. This will never work because using your hands you will not be able to square the face perfectly each time within the few degrees necessary. So get one part the get the other.
Watch:
How to Release the Golf Club: https://ignitiongolf.com/impact-wrist-release
Manually Square the Clubface: https://ignitiongolf.com/impact-squaring-clubface
Manually Square the Clubface (Follow Up): https://ignitiongolf.com/impact-squaring-face-follow-up
July 27, 2013
Earl GGissingHi Paul,
Today I enjoyed three marvelous reviews of key Problems:
Slicing
Casting
Three Wood.
You are a Fabulous Teacher.
You make it Crystal Clear.
Thanks,
Earl Gissing
July 29, 2013
Paul WilsonEarl,
Thank you for the kind words. I truly appreciate it.
Crystal clear is my goal. I hate guess work. Too many people are guessing. How can anyone improve like this?
November 7, 2013
PerttiJyrakoskiDo You mind to explain what the Momentum of inertia (MOI) does in the downswing.
November 8, 2013
Paul WilsonPertti,
This is the point after impact where the mass (club) is at its widest point.
I did tips on this here:
How to Release the Golf Club: https://ignitiongolf.com/impact-wrist-release
Squaring Clubface: https://ignitiongolf.com/square-clubface
July 7, 2014
MMPaul
Isnt this counter intuitive when working on release drill ? It seems the rolling of the wrists produces some throw out. I understand it is a drill but it still seems to cast a bit. Thoughts?
Thanks.
mm.
July 8, 2014
Paul WilsonMM,
As much as you think that it is loosening your wrists. What is lag? Lag means something is trailing behind something else. If you turn your body first and your wrists are loose the club would lag.
If you are even watching this tip you really need to be working on curing your slice first. So fix the spin on the ball as I show in this drill. Then work on your body rotation to straighten it back out. The casting is you hitting with your arms thus not lagging the club behind your body rotation. In hitting this is leaning you left on the way down. Lean left and you will hit it left.
Watch:
Body Tilt – Left Right: https://ignitiongolf.com/cure-pulling
Flatten Plane 1: https://ignitiongolf.com/downswing-flatten-plane
Flatten Plane 2: https://ignitiongolf.com/downswing-flatten-plane-2
July 8, 2014
MMok
I dont have a slice but hit a small cut and was looking to get my path more right. Im a 3 hc.
Thanks
July 9, 2014
Paul WilsonMM,
All you need to do is start your body before your arms in the downswing Unless your are purposely aiming left with an open face you are hitting with your arms slightly. By initiating with your body you are moving your axis (body) before the mass (club). If you are using physics to hit the ball the mass will always move towards 90 degrees to the axis if you turn an axis first. This means the plane will flatten and you will swing out at it slightly instead of over the top.
Watch:
Flatten Plane 1: https://ignitiongolf.com/downswing-flatten-plane
Flatten Plane 2: https://ignitiongolf.com/downswing-flatten-plane-2
I have been fixing swing planes like this for over 22 years. Just keep the arms relaxed because you need that face squaring too. I would do the roll over drill a bunch of times first and get it hooking. The add body as I suggest. The hooking will loose your wrists so the face square better. I would think about 15-20 hooks at your level should do the trick.
Watch:
Drill – Smooth Wrist Release: https://ignitiongolf.com/smooth-wrist-release/
DRILL: 3 Ways To Roll It Over: https://ignitiongolf.com/3-ways-to-roll/
Be careful:
Driving Hips Too Hard – Release Progression: https://ignitiongolf.com/release-progression/
July 9, 2014
MMok. Thanks Paul.
August 17, 2015
HermanKohHi Paul,
Trying to get this lag angle is one of the hardest thing in golf. I noticed whenever i cast the club i tend to hit it fat. Does casting causes fat shots? I know the cure for fat shots is that we have too much weight at the back foot at impact but doesnt casting causes fat shots as well?
Thanks
Herman
August 17, 2015
Paul WilsonHerman,
This is because you learned as an adult and want to keep hitting. A little kid with minimal arm strength would lag the club immediately from the first ball they hit. So you need to keep loosening up stop trying to hit the ball. Casting causes to use your arms instead of your body so you get trapped with your weight on the back foot at impact. Feel the heel to fix fat shots. If you were thinking body it would be ahead of the arms coming down. What does lag mean? Answer: Something is trailing behind something else. You need your body ahead of your arms throughout the whole swing.
August 18, 2015
HermanKohPaul,
Whenever i go to the range, i see all these amateurs which does not have much knowledge on the golf swing. They do not have problems with fat shots but other obvious faults. They are definitely hitting with their arms without initiating the lower body first in the downswing. How come they are not hitting it fat?
Thanks.
Herman
August 19, 2015
Paul WilsonHerman,
They are not hitting it fat because they are chicken winging it through impact. Chicken wing narrows the arc. If they let their lead arm fully extend they would hit it fat too.
February 29, 2016
Michael SaucermanHey Paul,
Thanks for your site, and all of the tips over the years. I’ve improved by probably 10-15 shots a round over the time I’ve been a member, and am hoping to go even lower this season.
After watching some slow motion video of my swing, I’m thinking casting may be an issue preventing me from having more consistent contact. What I’m seeing at impact is that I’m standing the club/handle upright, and I’m having some toe-deep divots. I believe this is coming from casting from the top, and as a result, is a compensation fault to prevent from hitting fat as a result of the wide arc generated from the casting move. This tip seems like it would be a good to maintain the lag angle, and not need to have a compensation move for the steep downswing caused by casting. Am I on to something with this thinking?
Thanks,
Mike
February 29, 2016
Paul WilsonMike,
Glad you are going well. I love hearing about improvement. It never gets old.
If you are toe deep with your divots you are looking/raising up through impact. Why would you do that? Well, if you are trying to hit something you will look to see what you hit.
Also, you could be too low at address. If you are too tilted you will stand up. So do the new taller setup. If I stand you up at address you have no reason to stand up. The checkpoint is that you can see the club and ball not your toes. So check this asap.
Here is how to do the setup:
A New Way To Get The Taller Setup: https://ignitiongolf.com/new-way-taller-setup/
If you have the set up but still toe deep then you are most likely swinging too hard with the arms. You are mentioning casting which is most certainly you hitting with your arms. So you really need to take this energy out of your arms. Loosen up way more than you think. Type in the search box Powerless Arms and all tips I have done on this will come up.
Fat shots – too much weight on your back foot at impact. Need to do the touch the legs position as soon as you start down. If you get off the back foot you will not hit it fat even if you cast it.
Fat: https://ignitiongolf.com/fat-shots-cure/
Every night you need to be loosening your wrists and doing my favorite drill holding the club in the air. This will get your legs and hips moving. Make sure you are working on the touch the legs position (nightly).
DRILL: 3 Ways To Roll It Over: https://ignitiongolf.com/3-ways-to-roll/
DRILL: Grip Down Drill: https://ignitiongolf.com/drill-grip-down/
DRILL: Grip Down Drill 2: https://ignitiongolf.com/drill-feel-wrist-release/
DRILL: Release and Rehinge: https://ignitiongolf.com/drill-feel-release-rehinge/
DRILL: Smooth Wrist Release: https://ignitiongolf.com/smooth-wrist-release/
Legs and Hips
DRILL: Swing Off Ground: https://ignitiongolf.com/drill-swing-off-ground/
DRILL: My Favorite Drill – Variation 2: https://ignitiongolf.com/favorite-drill-variation-2/
DRILL: Swing Off Ground Variation: https://ignitiongolf.com/drill-variation-favorite-drill/
DRILL: Listen to Club Swinging: https://ignitiongolf.com/drill-listen-to-club/