A fade has some spin to the right. A slice has severe spin. This is too much and would be the time you break the chain. Also, if you do not like any shot going right you (fade included) you would break the chain as well.
This type of fade has you releasing the club as you normally would. Because the face is open relative to the stance you the ball will fade even when releasing it.
Paul ,just a comment on golf in general . I am 77 and walk average of three 18 holes a week. I see competitors much younger whizzing around in carts but we play to the same handicap .Naturally I get tired at about the 15th but have to battle on, whilst my oponents show no signs of fatigue.
I don’t think this advantage would be allowed in any other sport.
your comments!!!!!!!!!!
michael
Paul, you mention how much you hate to see a player slice, especially multiple shots in succession but you fail to mention that it’s not “always” an open club face that creates the slice. I can say that I slice my 6i-Driver due to an outside-in swing path, however, typically the club face HAS been squared up. Often times I wind up with a pull because of this swing path but again, that proves my club face is square at impact. I would like to see more info on an over-the-top swing correction. I am actually slapping at the ball, not a full over the top if you will. You can see that my club face tries to open too early in video, hence slapping the club face out some to prepare it for impact. Talk about a mental block! I have a practice net at home and believe me, I’ve done everything from using gadgets to trying to take my arms and hands out of the equation to NO AVAIL! Help! Thanks for all the tips, Tony
I find that slice spin is even more disheartening than occasionally topping the ball into the water. For me I follow the wrist roll.and some good shots ensue, but slice spin always comes back. I can swing club right or left handed but left is much more fluid. My dominant throwing arm is right hand. Could it be more difficult for get rid of slice spin because my right arm is stronger than my left? A right handed golfer would usually have a lead arm Left that is less dominant. I am weary of hitting shots with slice spins.
It comes back because you keep swinging way too hard with your arms. Plus, you have not rolled it enough to master it. This is usually from the person not liking the look of a big hook so they stop doing it or do it less to get their shots to look half decent. This is a drill. You need to be rolling it and feel how it feels to roll it constantly until you have it mastered. This means doing it home, at the course, when you play etc. Constantly do this until you are good at it. Do it slow so you make sure you are doing it.
It is not an arm issue. It is a you always trying to do it at 100% problem. Do it less than 50%. Watch it. Understand it. Then constantly practice it. This really does not take that long if you are doing it right.
Paul this is Jim from hot springs Arkansas. I am hitting it very straight but still not getting the proper distance. Have not worked much on the roll over drill. Do you think that is the fix for the lack of distance. Even when I go from hitting a 7 iron to a 6 iron I am not generating much more distance. I also found out that slowing my backswing down helps me to feel the hinge and helps me to transition from the legs first as I bring the club down. Also I am having trouble touching my head with my club in the follow through. That probably costing me yards also. Thx for your input!!
The roll over is great to loosen your wrists and de-loft your club. These things will get you more power but you have to do them constantly and consistently until you are good at them. Plus read the rest of the email below. If you can’t touch your head this is telling you that your arms are too tight. Focus and physically touch it. Watch yourself do in a mirror and make it perfect. You want power and this position will give it to you plus it will stop you hitting at the ball.
I just posted this to the last commenter. I applies to you too:
You really need to be cranking up the speed of the legs and hips. I keep telling people it is an unmistakable feeling of using my legs and hips to hit the ball. In other words I am not pussy footing around. I am driving them super hard and fast. Until you work on this and get good at driving them you will never get it. This will not happen on its own. You need to be doing the drills below every night. Just realize this is leg drive. To go hard with only the legs will see you hitting pushes and push fades. You need to hook it first before increasing leg drive.
I play fairly well but lose control probably 30 – 50 of my drives off a tee. I feel like I can turn the club over yet I often leave the hands and arms behind leaving the face open and too often hit a push slice. I do not end up facing the target.
I have played for years. I go between a longer straight to slight draw to a severe slice. I can play to an 8 or 18 handicap and when I am on the straight shot is 250 carry off the tee. My release is fine when the rest of the swing is in sync. I feel that my arms can flail away from my body with an open club face. I think my downswing starts out of sync. Is there something in particular I should concentrate on?
Paul, at least in the case of a driver, why not start with the face severally closed, instead of closing it during the swing. I think that should also reduce the slice while working on a more permanent solution, but might be easier for some people (like myself) than doing the rotation during the swing. Any thoughts? Thanks……..Peter
This would be a band aid. Band aids do not work. Plus, I have taught countless people who set up with the face closed and still sliced it. For the sake of doing the drill you can fix your slice in 5 mins. I have had people master the roll over in 4 repetitions before. Others might take 10-15 mins. So, don’t look at this as difficult. Fix the spin first with the roll over. Once you are hooking it you are now doing half right instead of nothing right. Once you get the first half (spin) you start adding body rotation for the other half (direction).
You can also use the search feature in the Ignition Golf website found at the end of the red bar. Just search “stop skying” and a few tip will come up.
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21 Responses to “Break the Chain – Stop Slicing Immediately”
December 27, 2012
ElizabethWallaceGood Morning Paul,
Your previous tip was on having a fade be our go to shot.
Doesn’t a fade have slice spin?
Should I be able to hit a fade while rolling the club over?
This is very confusing for me.
thanks,
Beth
December 28, 2012
Paul WilsonElizabeth,
A fade has some spin to the right. A slice has severe spin. This is too much and would be the time you break the chain. Also, if you do not like any shot going right you (fade included) you would break the chain as well.
This type of fade has you releasing the club as you normally would. Because the face is open relative to the stance you the ball will fade even when releasing it.
December 31, 2012
RalphWilkinsonThanks Paul. I needed that too. Going out this week.Cant wait now.
December 31, 2012
Paul WilsonRalph,
Glad I could help.
January 1, 2013
MichaelMurphyPaul ,just a comment on golf in general . I am 77 and walk average of three 18 holes a week. I see competitors much younger whizzing around in carts but we play to the same handicap .Naturally I get tired at about the 15th but have to battle on, whilst my oponents show no signs of fatigue.
I don’t think this advantage would be allowed in any other sport.
your comments!!!!!!!!!!
michael
January 1, 2013
Paul WilsonMichael,
I love taking carts. Some people like to walk. Not much you can do about it.
I did a tip on how to come down the stretch.
Watch:
Coming Down The Stretch: https://ignitiongolf.com/how-to-finish
January 11, 2013
TonyConfalonePaul, you mention how much you hate to see a player slice, especially multiple shots in succession but you fail to mention that it’s not “always” an open club face that creates the slice. I can say that I slice my 6i-Driver due to an outside-in swing path, however, typically the club face HAS been squared up. Often times I wind up with a pull because of this swing path but again, that proves my club face is square at impact. I would like to see more info on an over-the-top swing correction. I am actually slapping at the ball, not a full over the top if you will. You can see that my club face tries to open too early in video, hence slapping the club face out some to prepare it for impact. Talk about a mental block! I have a practice net at home and believe me, I’ve done everything from using gadgets to trying to take my arms and hands out of the equation to NO AVAIL! Help! Thanks for all the tips, Tony
January 11, 2013
TonyConfaloneDisregard 🙂 I see the fix under “stop pulling…”. Thanks again, I’ll work on this!
January 11, 2013
Paul WilsonTony,
Glad you found it. There are many cures listed there.
January 4, 2014
HaroldBaldockI find that slice spin is even more disheartening than occasionally topping the ball into the water. For me I follow the wrist roll.and some good shots ensue, but slice spin always comes back. I can swing club right or left handed but left is much more fluid. My dominant throwing arm is right hand. Could it be more difficult for get rid of slice spin because my right arm is stronger than my left? A right handed golfer would usually have a lead arm Left that is less dominant. I am weary of hitting shots with slice spins.
January 5, 2014
Paul WilsonHarold,
It comes back because you keep swinging way too hard with your arms. Plus, you have not rolled it enough to master it. This is usually from the person not liking the look of a big hook so they stop doing it or do it less to get their shots to look half decent. This is a drill. You need to be rolling it and feel how it feels to roll it constantly until you have it mastered. This means doing it home, at the course, when you play etc. Constantly do this until you are good at it. Do it slow so you make sure you are doing it.
It is not an arm issue. It is a you always trying to do it at 100% problem. Do it less than 50%. Watch it. Understand it. Then constantly practice it. This really does not take that long if you are doing it right.
January 6, 2014
HaroldBaldockOkay, I will keep trying. I have slowed down, but can see it not enough. Just got little discouraged. Will keep trying my best. Thanks Paul. Harold
August 10, 2015
JimElserPaul this is Jim from hot springs Arkansas. I am hitting it very straight but still not getting the proper distance. Have not worked much on the roll over drill. Do you think that is the fix for the lack of distance. Even when I go from hitting a 7 iron to a 6 iron I am not generating much more distance. I also found out that slowing my backswing down helps me to feel the hinge and helps me to transition from the legs first as I bring the club down. Also I am having trouble touching my head with my club in the follow through. That probably costing me yards also. Thx for your input!!
August 11, 2015
Paul WilsonJim,
The roll over is great to loosen your wrists and de-loft your club. These things will get you more power but you have to do them constantly and consistently until you are good at them. Plus read the rest of the email below. If you can’t touch your head this is telling you that your arms are too tight. Focus and physically touch it. Watch yourself do in a mirror and make it perfect. You want power and this position will give it to you plus it will stop you hitting at the ball.
I just posted this to the last commenter. I applies to you too:
You really need to be cranking up the speed of the legs and hips. I keep telling people it is an unmistakable feeling of using my legs and hips to hit the ball. In other words I am not pussy footing around. I am driving them super hard and fast. Until you work on this and get good at driving them you will never get it. This will not happen on its own. You need to be doing the drills below every night. Just realize this is leg drive. To go hard with only the legs will see you hitting pushes and push fades. You need to hook it first before increasing leg drive.
Watch:
DRILL: Listen to Club Swinging: https://ignitiongolf.com/drill-listen-to-club
DRILL: How To Really Increase Power: https://ignitiongolf.com/how-to-really-increase-power/
DRILL: Swing Up with Driver: https://ignitiongolf.com/drill-swing-up-driver/
DRILL: 2 Ways To Work On Your Hip Rotation:
DRILL: How To Get Your Hips Moving: https://ignitiongolf.com/drill-hips-moving/
Golf Swing Timing For More Distance: https://ignitiongolf.com/timing-more-distance/
Driving Hips Harder But Hook It First: https://ignitiongolf.com/driving-hips-hook-first/
So put a driver beside the door to your backyard and do these drills nightly.
June 5, 2019
JohnSujatI play fairly well but lose control probably 30 – 50 of my drives off a tee. I feel like I can turn the club over yet I often leave the hands and arms behind leaving the face open and too often hit a push slice. I do not end up facing the target.
June 11, 2019
Paul WilsonJohn,
You need to watch these 2 tips:
DRILL: Golf Swing Timing For More Distance: https://ignitiongolf.com/timing-more-distance/
Driving Hips Harder But Hook It First: https://ignitiongolf.com/driving-hips-hook-first/
June 18, 2019
JohnSujatI have played for years. I go between a longer straight to slight draw to a severe slice. I can play to an 8 or 18 handicap and when I am on the straight shot is 250 carry off the tee. My release is fine when the rest of the swing is in sync. I feel that my arms can flail away from my body with an open club face. I think my downswing starts out of sync. Is there something in particular I should concentrate on?
September 24, 2019
N PeterAntonePaul, at least in the case of a driver, why not start with the face severally closed, instead of closing it during the swing. I think that should also reduce the slice while working on a more permanent solution, but might be easier for some people (like myself) than doing the rotation during the swing. Any thoughts? Thanks……..Peter
September 29, 2019
Paul WilsonPeter,
This would be a band aid. Band aids do not work. Plus, I have taught countless people who set up with the face closed and still sliced it. For the sake of doing the drill you can fix your slice in 5 mins. I have had people master the roll over in 4 repetitions before. Others might take 10-15 mins. So, don’t look at this as difficult. Fix the spin first with the roll over. Once you are hooking it you are now doing half right instead of nothing right. Once you get the first half (spin) you start adding body rotation for the other half (direction).
Follow the steps below:
Step 1:
DRILL: 3 Ways To Roll It Over: https://ignitiongolf.com/3-ways-to-roll/
Roll Around The Stick: https://ignitiongolf.com/roll-around-stick/
Clarifying the Roll Over Drill: https://ignitiongolf.com/clarifying-roll-drill
Modified Roll Over Drill: https://ignitiongolf.com/modified-roll-over-drill/
Step 2:
After The Roll Over Drill: https://ignitiongolf.com/after-the-roll-over/
2 Things Flatten the Plane: https://ignitiongolf.com/2-things-flatten-plane/
See The Plane Flatten: https://ignitiongolf.com/see-the-plane-flatten/
August 26, 2023
ThomasGrayPaul…..my wife is starting to pop up her drives…..is this related to too high or low tees?
thnx……tom
August 30, 2023
Paul WilsonHello Thomas, this could be caused by teeing up the ball too high. So have her tee the ball lower to see if it makes a difference.
Here is a video on YouTube I did on skying the ball.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSxP7pcuS68
You can also use the search feature in the Ignition Golf website found at the end of the red bar. Just search “stop skying” and a few tip will come up.
Paul