Yes, this is typically what people do … or don’t do. Need to trust the move. If you want more power this is how to get it. Tricky for some at first but well worth it.
Paul ,Golf Teachers MIKE ADAMS and PETER CROKER (From AUSTRALIA )contend there’s a relation between hip speed and grip :
-slow hip speed = weak grip (V left hand to the left :one knuckle left hand showing)
-medium hip speed= neutral grip (V’left hand to the chin :two knuckles left hand showing )
-high hip speeed = strong grip (V’left hand to the right three knuckles left hand showing
They don’t quantify the hip speed :what’s slow ,what’s average ,what’s fast ?
I don’t believe in this theory .Following your advice ,I play with a neutral grip .I would say that as an old man ,my hip speed should be rather slow but my shots are always straight and long .
What comments do you have on the subject ?
I didn’t find a way to measure my hip speed and compare to others .
Is there a tool to do so (other than TRACKMAN )?
I think I hear something about this recently. I have seen a ton of bad golfers with slow hip speed with strong grips. I would say 90% of the people I see have strong grips. This is not to say they are bad swing. Just see way more strong than weak.
There might be something to it. I would have to take note as I teach people from this point forward.
Thank you Paul for the reviews, very, very helpful indeed….And I promise to NEVER wear my sandals while practicing!!!! Thanks again for your “spot on” analysis of each of us……
I’m glad you wore them. Now others know not to. Just can’t get on the tip of the toe which is important.
I may be doing more of these in the future. In the meantime we do offer swing analysis and skype lessons for a very affordable price. More members should be taking advantage of this. You can find out more here:
Paul ,I have a question about hip rotation and shoulder-hip separation .
It’s common place to say the power of the swing comes from the hips.
There are two sources of power :
-the rotation of the left hip around a straight left leg
– the spring effect=uncoiling (The “TORQUE” )of the coiled shoulders against the hips ;JIM McLEAN coined that effect with the term the “X”factor
It’s been established that the Pro’s turn their hips 45 ° or plus backwards and about the same amount (42°) in the throughswing .
We senior citizens are stiff every where ,in particular in the hip area.
Now some golf instructors tell you to turn your hips as much as you can going in the backswing (Even straightening your right leg to do so !!!!) ,others ,like you insist on the separation=coil of the shoulders against the hips_ and turning the shoulders at 90°(or less.Flexibility issue !) and not turning the hips back that much as they resist against the left instep dug in the turf.
That’s what I do
I have been working hard on the separation and the fast thrust forward of the hips .I have regained considerable distance doing so .
Is there more I can do to get even better ?(Apart exercising more with THE ULTIMATE SWING TRAINER of MIKE BAUMANNN .I am up to three rubber bands to stretch together )
Yes, turning back can be a issue. The main one I see though, is the person not uncoiling fast enough. When students come out for lessons I try to explain this. Then I show them what I am doing. Then they try it and they are not even close to what I am doing. Not sure yet how to explain how hard and fast I am doing this uncoil. I am not saying they have to do it as fast as my but any increase will translate to a faster whipping action of the club. Also, you don’t even have to coil back that far. 80 degrees is fine but the hips uncoiling has to be quick. Those telling people to move the hips going back know that this will cause a longer backswing which allows the person to pull the club down harder/faster. For someone hitting it nowhere this would appear to give them more power or a feeling of more power but as we age we get weaker. So it gets to the point where the person cannot it hit it that far even with the arms yet there are kids and petite player who hit it plenty long.
In your case if you are turning upwards of 90 degrees that’s all you need to turn. Then you stay focused on uncoiling faster. I wish you would send us your swing. I can tell you instantly where you are going wrong or if you can improve it.
Keep doing the swing off of the ground making the club whip faster and faster.
Like many I find my lead leg is slightly bent even though I am trying to lock it. At what point in the swing should it feel like I am locking the lead leg? I understand I need to lock it and turn around it, touch the knees. Any tips on when it should feel locked or how to practice getting it locked?
You need to get used to this feeling of locking it. Human nature is telling to not do it as it thinks it will hurt the leg. You need to keep doing it until your mind accepts it. Start out slow and build it up. Too many people try to do everything at top speed. Why not do it right at 1mph. This way you are actually doing it right instead of wrong at 100mph.
You put lots of emphasis on straight left leg. At what point in swing should it become straight. How does straight leg give us more power?
Critique on follow thru very helpful.
Thx.
You need to get used to this feeling of locking it. Human nature is telling to not do it as it thinks it will hurt the leg. You need to keep doing it until your mind accepts it. Start out slow and build it up. Too many people try to do everything at top speed. Why not do it right at 1mph. This way you are actually doing it right instead of wrong at 100mph.
So what this is going to do is turn your hips faster. This will turn your body faster. Arms are connected to your body so they will come down faster. Loose wrists will allow the club to release faster.
Glad you like them. I pulled a whole bunch more from my ipad that I will be doing. It is so interesting the different interpretations of the swing there are. I will try to find one with too much follow through for you. Might be while.
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19 Responses to “Member Follow Through Analysis – Part 1”
November 5, 2017
KimBozikThanks, Paul. Good stuff. Is always nice to see lots of comparisons as hearing you talk about the subtleties helps me review my own vids and pics.
Kim
November 6, 2017
Paul WilsonKim,
Glad you liked it. Thanks. Didn’t realize it would be 30mins.
November 5, 2017
StephenPatchingVery helpful instruction, Paul. Straightening of the left leg is an obvious flaw in my swing. At least I’m not an orphan on this one.
November 6, 2017
Paul WilsonStephen,
Yes, this is typically what people do … or don’t do. Need to trust the move. If you want more power this is how to get it. Tricky for some at first but well worth it.
November 6, 2017
JohnBensonI’ve had “knees together at the finish” drummed into my head for a year and a half, I can’t believe I sent you a shot where they weren’t touching :-/
This is the first time I’ve taken a picture of my swing. Thanks for the analysis!
Johnee B.
November 6, 2017
Paul WilsonJohn,
Glad you saw it. I would have thought you had that position. It’s important for using the legs and hips.
November 6, 2017
RaymondCHASTELPaul ,Golf Teachers MIKE ADAMS and PETER CROKER (From AUSTRALIA )contend there’s a relation between hip speed and grip :
-slow hip speed = weak grip (V left hand to the left :one knuckle left hand showing)
-medium hip speed= neutral grip (V’left hand to the chin :two knuckles left hand showing )
-high hip speeed = strong grip (V’left hand to the right three knuckles left hand showing
They don’t quantify the hip speed :what’s slow ,what’s average ,what’s fast ?
I don’t believe in this theory .Following your advice ,I play with a neutral grip .I would say that as an old man ,my hip speed should be rather slow but my shots are always straight and long .
What comments do you have on the subject ?
I didn’t find a way to measure my hip speed and compare to others .
Is there a tool to do so (other than TRACKMAN )?
November 6, 2017
Paul WilsonRaymond,
I think I hear something about this recently. I have seen a ton of bad golfers with slow hip speed with strong grips. I would say 90% of the people I see have strong grips. This is not to say they are bad swing. Just see way more strong than weak.
There might be something to it. I would have to take note as I teach people from this point forward.
November 6, 2017
RandMellorThank you Paul for the reviews, very, very helpful indeed….And I promise to NEVER wear my sandals while practicing!!!! Thanks again for your “spot on” analysis of each of us……
November 6, 2017
RandMellorAnd I forgot to ask, is it possible to do this again sometime future???? Thx……
November 7, 2017
Paul WilsonRand,
I’m glad you wore them. Now others know not to. Just can’t get on the tip of the toe which is important.
I may be doing more of these in the future. In the meantime we do offer swing analysis and skype lessons for a very affordable price. More members should be taking advantage of this. You can find out more here:
Swing Analysis:
http://paulwilsongolf.com/las-vegas-golf-lessons/swing-analysis/
Skype Lessons:
http://paulwilsongolf.com/las-vegas-golf-lessons/skype-online-golf-lessons/
November 7, 2017
RaymondCHASTELPaul ,I have a question about hip rotation and shoulder-hip separation .
It’s common place to say the power of the swing comes from the hips.
There are two sources of power :
-the rotation of the left hip around a straight left leg
– the spring effect=uncoiling (The “TORQUE” )of the coiled shoulders against the hips ;JIM McLEAN coined that effect with the term the “X”factor
It’s been established that the Pro’s turn their hips 45 ° or plus backwards and about the same amount (42°) in the throughswing .
We senior citizens are stiff every where ,in particular in the hip area.
Now some golf instructors tell you to turn your hips as much as you can going in the backswing (Even straightening your right leg to do so !!!!) ,others ,like you insist on the separation=coil of the shoulders against the hips_ and turning the shoulders at 90°(or less.Flexibility issue !) and not turning the hips back that much as they resist against the left instep dug in the turf.
That’s what I do
I have been working hard on the separation and the fast thrust forward of the hips .I have regained considerable distance doing so .
Is there more I can do to get even better ?(Apart exercising more with THE ULTIMATE SWING TRAINER of MIKE BAUMANNN .I am up to three rubber bands to stretch together )
November 7, 2017
Paul WilsonRaymond,
Yes, turning back can be a issue. The main one I see though, is the person not uncoiling fast enough. When students come out for lessons I try to explain this. Then I show them what I am doing. Then they try it and they are not even close to what I am doing. Not sure yet how to explain how hard and fast I am doing this uncoil. I am not saying they have to do it as fast as my but any increase will translate to a faster whipping action of the club. Also, you don’t even have to coil back that far. 80 degrees is fine but the hips uncoiling has to be quick. Those telling people to move the hips going back know that this will cause a longer backswing which allows the person to pull the club down harder/faster. For someone hitting it nowhere this would appear to give them more power or a feeling of more power but as we age we get weaker. So it gets to the point where the person cannot it hit it that far even with the arms yet there are kids and petite player who hit it plenty long.
In your case if you are turning upwards of 90 degrees that’s all you need to turn. Then you stay focused on uncoiling faster. I wish you would send us your swing. I can tell you instantly where you are going wrong or if you can improve it.
Keep doing the swing off of the ground making the club whip faster and faster.
DRILL: How To Really Increase Power: https://ignitiongolf.com/how-to-really-increase-power/
Watch these tips too:
Limited Shoulder Turn? Power Is No Problem: https://ignitiongolf.com/limited-shoulder-turn/
Limited Hip Turn? Power Is No Problem: https://ignitiongolf.com/limited-hip-turn/
November 7, 2017
SteveWeberPaul,
Like many I find my lead leg is slightly bent even though I am trying to lock it. At what point in the swing should it feel like I am locking the lead leg? I understand I need to lock it and turn around it, touch the knees. Any tips on when it should feel locked or how to practice getting it locked?
November 8, 2017
Paul WilsonSteve,
You need to feel like it is locked at 3/4 through.
Lock the Lead Leg at Three Quarters Through: https://ignitiongolf.com/lock-lead-leg/
Follow Through – Lock Leg and Turn: https://ignitiongolf.com/ft-lock-leg-turn/
What To Expect Series – Locking Front Leg: https://ignitiongolf.com/expect-locking-front-leg/
You need to get used to this feeling of locking it. Human nature is telling to not do it as it thinks it will hurt the leg. You need to keep doing it until your mind accepts it. Start out slow and build it up. Too many people try to do everything at top speed. Why not do it right at 1mph. This way you are actually doing it right instead of wrong at 100mph.
DRILL: Do It Right at 1MPH https://ignitiongolf.com/right-at-1mph/
November 8, 2017
RoyYou put lots of emphasis on straight left leg. At what point in swing should it become straight. How does straight leg give us more power?
Critique on follow thru very helpful.
Thx.
Roy
November 8, 2017
Paul WilsonRoy,
Here is what I just posted for another member:
You need to feel like it is locked at 3/4 through.
Lock the Lead Leg at Three Quarters Through: https://ignitiongolf.com/lock-lead-leg/
Follow Through – Lock Leg and Turn: https://ignitiongolf.com/ft-lock-leg-turn/
What To Expect Series – Locking Front Leg: https://ignitiongolf.com/expect-locking-front-leg/
You need to get used to this feeling of locking it. Human nature is telling to not do it as it thinks it will hurt the leg. You need to keep doing it until your mind accepts it. Start out slow and build it up. Too many people try to do everything at top speed. Why not do it right at 1mph. This way you are actually doing it right instead of wrong at 100mph.
DRILL: Do It Right at 1MPH https://ignitiongolf.com/right-at-1mph/
So what this is going to do is turn your hips faster. This will turn your body faster. Arms are connected to your body so they will come down faster. Loose wrists will allow the club to release faster.
Watch this tip:
What’s Faster … Turning or Shifting Laterally To Start Your Downswing?: https://ignitiongolf.com/turning-or-shifting/
Do this to get a feel for it:
It’s Like A Throwing Motion: https://ignitiongolf.com/like-throwing-motion/
January 18, 2018
MatthewVintonPaul,
These tips are amazing. I get a lot out of seeing how other Ignition golfers swing.
There are a few golfers in this tip that are overdoing the lower body move.
Can you do a tip on this—when the belt buckle is 20-30 degrees left of parallel left in the follow through?
Best,
-Matt
January 18, 2018
Paul WilsonMatthew,
Glad you like them. I pulled a whole bunch more from my ipad that I will be doing. It is so interesting the different interpretations of the swing there are. I will try to find one with too much follow through for you. Might be while.