Hi Paul,
So true that review is very important! It made me realize that when I don’t feel the torque, that I have to manufacture speed by swinging my arms which really slows it all down. I intend to return to the helicopter drill until the torque feeling is in-grained in my swing. Truly great idea on your part for Fri review.
Thanks, Mike
Mike, I have a ton of content on this site that needs to be watched so I think 1 day a week we go over a previous tip. I think it makes sense. I think you get it too. There is a lot to remember.
hey paul,,,i will guess that i am the only student you have that cannot do the helicopter drill.i have been a weightlifter/bodybuilder for so long now (45 YRS),that i do not have the flexibility to simply put the clubshaft in back of my neck…so other than trying to circularly turn my left shoulder until i feel that tension in my left ribcage….anything else????
If you can’t do the helicopter drill as I show then put the club across your chest with crossed arms. This way it will indicate the shoulder rotation as well although you won’t get quite the same rotation.
I am using my left shoulder to coil. Which part of the shoulder do you focus on eg, I think of the top of the left arm, where it joins my shoulder. Do I coil against the middle of my chest for eg, the buttons of the Tee shirt? Will the Letter Y made by the arms move in that shape automatically as I coil from the left shoulder? I played rubbish golf today. Embarrassed to tell you what I shot!! I was in confusion whether just to move the letter Y from my buttons, from the middle of the chest or to coil from the shoulder against the buttons. Thinking of both did not work.
Do not make this complicated. I get the feeling you are trying to dissect every morsel of this movement. It is simple. You take your shoulder and turn it. Your arms are connected to your body so they would move if you turned your body.
Do your arms move when you putt? I bet they do. The putting stroke is a one-piece action. It is the same action you should be using for a one-piece takeway in your swing:
You may play poor golf if you are changing your swing. Keep the goal in mind and forget how you are playing. Build a great swing and you will play great golf.
You are new to this site. You need to be following these tips ONLY. Once you master them then and only then should you be working on your backswing:
Hi Paul. Im trying to get the tall set up, but find myself either shanking or topping. Should it feel like the coil is perfectly flat to the ground? Trying to get the sense that I’m swinging “above” the ball with my chin up but I’m not keeping my spine angle the way I should throughout the swing.
You would not be shanking it from the tall set up. This is one of the cures for shanking so you must be rolling onto your toes in the downswing. Just think if you are shanking it you are getting closer to the ball. This usually occurs with shorter clubs because people bend over too much. So you want a taller setup even with shorter clubs. I have seen your swing. I can’t believe your setup is too tilted. Once in the set up you are coiling. This coil should feel level to the ground not that this is reality because you are tilted at setup. If you are trying to move the left shoulder down as you take the club back this is the wrong feeling and could lead to shanking.
Just coil back as I said. Don’t see your toes at all at the top of the backswing. If you see your toes your too low. Simple. Once coiled you uncoil to the touch the legs position. You were working with Pete on your swing. I can’t believe you are having these issues.
The only reason it is going inside is because you are pulling it inside with your back hand. You would never do that putting right? The putting is one piece. So apply the putting stoke to your golf swing.
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15 Responses to “Learn How To Coil In The Backswing”
October 5, 2012
FrancisKuntzthe video is not loading
October 5, 2012
Paul WilsonFrancis, This video is working now. Here you go: https://ignitiongolf.com/learn-coil-backswing/
October 13, 2012
mikeplummerHi Paul,
So true that review is very important! It made me realize that when I don’t feel the torque, that I have to manufacture speed by swinging my arms which really slows it all down. I intend to return to the helicopter drill until the torque feeling is in-grained in my swing. Truly great idea on your part for Fri review.
Thanks, Mike
October 16, 2012
Paul WilsonMike, I have a ton of content on this site that needs to be watched so I think 1 day a week we go over a previous tip. I think it makes sense. I think you get it too. There is a lot to remember.
November 22, 2012
richmosneyhey paul,,,i will guess that i am the only student you have that cannot do the helicopter drill.i have been a weightlifter/bodybuilder for so long now (45 YRS),that i do not have the flexibility to simply put the clubshaft in back of my neck…so other than trying to circularly turn my left shoulder until i feel that tension in my left ribcage….anything else????
November 22, 2012
Paul WilsonRich,
If you can’t do the helicopter drill as I show then put the club across your chest with crossed arms. This way it will indicate the shoulder rotation as well although you won’t get quite the same rotation.
November 17, 2014
NazninKarimHi Paul
I am using my left shoulder to coil. Which part of the shoulder do you focus on eg, I think of the top of the left arm, where it joins my shoulder. Do I coil against the middle of my chest for eg, the buttons of the Tee shirt? Will the Letter Y made by the arms move in that shape automatically as I coil from the left shoulder? I played rubbish golf today. Embarrassed to tell you what I shot!! I was in confusion whether just to move the letter Y from my buttons, from the middle of the chest or to coil from the shoulder against the buttons. Thinking of both did not work.
Regards
Naz
November 18, 2014
Paul WilsonNaz,
I think of the tip of my shoulder. I turn it back around a stable base.
Watch:
Increase Shoulder Turn (seam on shirt): https://ignitiongolf.com/increase-your-shoulder-turn/
Do not make this complicated. I get the feeling you are trying to dissect every morsel of this movement. It is simple. You take your shoulder and turn it. Your arms are connected to your body so they would move if you turned your body.
Do your arms move when you putt? I bet they do. The putting stroke is a one-piece action. It is the same action you should be using for a one-piece takeway in your swing:
One Piece Takeaway: https://ignitiongolf.com/master-one-piece-takeaway
You may play poor golf if you are changing your swing. Keep the goal in mind and forget how you are playing. Build a great swing and you will play great golf.
You are new to this site. You need to be following these tips ONLY. Once you master them then and only then should you be working on your backswing:
Grip
Left Hand: https://ignitiongolf.com/left-hand-grip
Right Hand: https://ignitiongolf.com/right-hand-grip
Setup
Set Up Steps: https://ignitiongolf.com/setup-position
Follow Through
Legs Touching: https://ignitiongolf.com/touch-knees
Secret of the Starting the Downswing (using triggers – off big toe curve): https://ignitiongolf.com/shift-roll/
One Of The Secrets To The Golf Swing: https://ignitiongolf.com/secrets-to-golf-swing/
Spine Angle Follow Through: https://ignitiongolf.com/follow-through-eyes-tilted
May 25, 2015
CraigGhelfiGood morning, Paul,
Question…when you coil on your takeaway, does your back leg (right) straighten out or is it still flexed??
Craig
May 25, 2015
Paul WilsonCraig,
You need the flex in this knee and weight loaded into the instep. This puts you in position to start the lower body first in the downswing.
Legs in Downswing: https://ignitiongolf.com/downswing-back-knee/
Backswing Load and Flex (In Position To Start Down): https://ignitiongolf.com/backswing-load-flex/
Power: How I Got Power In My Swing: https://ignitiongolf.com/power-dig-foot-in/
Coiling: https://ignitiongolf.com/learn-coil-backswing
June 19, 2017
StianOttersenHi Paul. Im trying to get the tall set up, but find myself either shanking or topping. Should it feel like the coil is perfectly flat to the ground? Trying to get the sense that I’m swinging “above” the ball with my chin up but I’m not keeping my spine angle the way I should throughout the swing.
June 19, 2017
Paul WilsonStian,
You would not be shanking it from the tall set up. This is one of the cures for shanking so you must be rolling onto your toes in the downswing. Just think if you are shanking it you are getting closer to the ball. This usually occurs with shorter clubs because people bend over too much. So you want a taller setup even with shorter clubs. I have seen your swing. I can’t believe your setup is too tilted. Once in the set up you are coiling. This coil should feel level to the ground not that this is reality because you are tilted at setup. If you are trying to move the left shoulder down as you take the club back this is the wrong feeling and could lead to shanking.
Just coil back as I said. Don’t see your toes at all at the top of the backswing. If you see your toes your too low. Simple. Once coiled you uncoil to the touch the legs position. You were working with Pete on your swing. I can’t believe you are having these issues.
June 19, 2017
StianOttersenThanks. As you said im probably rolling over to my toes these days. Should be easy to fix. I will try to feel the weight more central 🙂
March 20, 2018
NazninKarimHi Paul
When you coil back how do you stop the club from going on the inside path?
Thanks
Naz
March 20, 2018
Paul WilsonNaz,
The only reason it is going inside is because you are pulling it inside with your back hand. You would never do that putting right? The putting is one piece. So apply the putting stoke to your golf swing.
One Piece Takeaway: https://ignitiongolf.com/master-one-piece-takeaway