I have gotten in a habit of lifting my head towards the end if my backswing over many years. I had been working with a PGA pro on creating a very flat and shorter backswing to keep my head from lifting. How would you teach me, using your system, to keep me from lifting? I have tried for many years, without success, to cure thus problem.
Jim, you are lifting your head because you are trying to relive the stress of the torque you are creating as you coil back. Also, you are probably trying to hit the ball a little too hard so this raising up gives you a more powerful feeling to hit the ball. So I would work on your coil and loosening your arms.
I would give you the understanding of what you are trying to do when you coil and also explain that this coiling is a tight feeling. This tight feeling is not to be avoided. It is to be used. With the lower body stable you should be coiling back to the point you feel tight not and farther than this. I get the feeling you are wanting to crank your shoulders around too much because you think this is going to give you more power.
Instead, you get this tight feeling then you lift out of this angle because you are trying to crank around to 90 degrees. It is unnecessary to go back that far. You should be going back as far as you can go back. I do not turn back to 90 degrees and I fly it 280+. If you can only go back 80 degrees that is how far you should be going back. In coiling back this far you need to keep the lower body stable so you get this tight feeling. Once tightly coiled, you unwind the lower body to hit the ball.
I have gotten in a habit of lifting my head towards the end if my backswing over many years. I had been working with a PGA pro on creating a very flat and shorter backswing to keep my head from lifting. How would you teach me, using your system, to keep me from lifting? I have tried for many years, without success, to cure thus problem.
I have all ways thought that I had to have my head at the same level position. But it seams that you keep it at the same level at the coiling back, BUT you start to lower it through the down swing and at the “impact” your head is some lower than when you start the coiling and at the finish your head is even higher than at the start position. As you do so it must bee all right??
Your head should be dropping at impact. This is due to the tilt of the lower body behind the ball in the downswing. If you start on one angle and hit it on more of an angle your head would be lower than when you first start. So don’t worry about the head lower. Worry about starting your downswing with the lower body. If you do your head will drop too.
I am new to Ignition golf but have followed your method for some time now and also have always wondered about the “dipping” of your head on the downswing which seems to be about 4-5 inches in this slow-motion replay. I don’t believe you have ever commented on this move. Would you? Is this a squat? Thanks.
Thank you for joining. I just answered this for the gentleman below. So you receive it I have posted it again:
Your head should be dropping at impact. This is due to the tilt of the lower body behind the ball in the downswing. If you start on one angle and hit it on more of an angle your head would be lower than when you first start. So don
I have been a member for a couple of months now and I really like the instruction. The question I have is about how much you bend your left
arm in the backswing ? Do you teach to just let it bend if it needs to ?
I have always thought that my backswing should end at a point where my
left elbow would have to bend to bring it back farther. Do you have advice for me on this point ?
A lot of pros bend their arm at the top of the backswing. I have obviously had this question many times. I just cannot keep it any straighter. I have tried and tried. As long as the arm starts straight and is straight by the time you hit the ball it is okay because you are not narrowing the width of the arc.
So keep the arm extended but not locked to the best of your ability. If you lock it you will most likely be too tight in your arms. I am trying to make them powerless as you swing.
You mention not to overrotate the hips :do you consciensly prevent them from overotating by blocking them ,this increasing the ” X” factor ,or don’t you do anyting about it ?
Many years ago I purposely resisted the hip rotation going back. This way to increase torque. Torque repeats 100% of the time in life. You want to be basing your swing on it. If you shoulders turn the most why would you want to move your hips. Would you shoulders not move them perfectly into position without having to think about moving them?
I have now the ULTIMATE SWING TRAINER you promote .Apart from this training aid ,I use the MOMENTUS HEAVY DRIVER and the POWER SWING FAN ,and also the MOMENTUS SPEED WHOOSH .
I’ve read that utilizing weighted clubs is not b
I hate heavy clubs. When you swing them your real clubs feel too light. I want your clubs to feel heavy. You would get this heavy feeling if your arms were powerless when you swing. So do not swing heavy clubs. This is why I only promote the short Momentus.
I promote very few training aids. I will be promoting another one in the near future that I really like. Other then the ones on the website use a mirror and your club. Then do practice swings working on my swing positions. You do realize that each of my swing positions gives you feedback to tell if you are doing it right or not. If you can do the positions perfectly by looking for this feedback why use training aids? Get swinging and looking for the feedback.
Paul. I have noticed that your left foot glides to a more open position as your swing completes. I think this is a significant thing to do either during the swing or perhaps set the left foot to a more open position to allow the hip rotation to complete. I have had trouble with muscles in my left leg requiring some therapy because I was planting my left foot at 10 degrees open and trying to rotate around that fixed position. Interested in your comments here and happy to discuss my problems with you if you want clarification. Note I am 70 years old, but reasonably flexible 88-92 mph swing speed. Enjoyed my live lesson with you a few years back, and look forward to your response.
I don’t really think about this foot or even realize I do this. I think it is just from not practicing. More towards the end it is moving this way as the weight rolls to the outside of my foot. I did a tip on this here:
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17 Responses to “How To Increase Your Shoulder Turn”
June 1, 2012
JimMarlowI have gotten in a habit of lifting my head towards the end if my backswing over many years. I had been working with a PGA pro on creating a very flat and shorter backswing to keep my head from lifting. How would you teach me, using your system, to keep me from lifting? I have tried for many years, without success, to cure thus problem.
June 1, 2012
Paul WilsonJim, you are lifting your head because you are trying to relive the stress of the torque you are creating as you coil back. Also, you are probably trying to hit the ball a little too hard so this raising up gives you a more powerful feeling to hit the ball. So I would work on your coil and loosening your arms.
I would give you the understanding of what you are trying to do when you coil and also explain that this coiling is a tight feeling. This tight feeling is not to be avoided. It is to be used. With the lower body stable you should be coiling back to the point you feel tight not and farther than this. I get the feeling you are wanting to crank your shoulders around too much because you think this is going to give you more power.
Instead, you get this tight feeling then you lift out of this angle because you are trying to crank around to 90 degrees. It is unnecessary to go back that far. You should be going back as far as you can go back. I do not turn back to 90 degrees and I fly it 280+. If you can only go back 80 degrees that is how far you should be going back. In coiling back this far you need to keep the lower body stable so you get this tight feeling. Once tightly coiled, you unwind the lower body to hit the ball.
Watch this:
Coiling: https://ignitiongolf.com/learn-coil-backswing
After you get the coil, you also work on loosening the wrists to generate the whipping action of the club.
June 1, 2012
JimMarlowI have gotten in a habit of lifting my head towards the end if my backswing over many years. I had been working with a PGA pro on creating a very flat and shorter backswing to keep my head from lifting. How would you teach me, using your system, to keep me from lifting? I have tried for many years, without success, to cure thus problem.
April 20, 2013
NielsTruelsenHi Paul,
I have all ways thought that I had to have my head at the same level position. But it seams that you keep it at the same level at the coiling back, BUT you start to lower it through the down swing and at the “impact” your head is some lower than when you start the coiling and at the finish your head is even higher than at the start position. As you do so it must bee all right??
Best regards
Niels
April 21, 2013
Paul WilsonNiels,
Your head should be dropping at impact. This is due to the tilt of the lower body behind the ball in the downswing. If you start on one angle and hit it on more of an angle your head would be lower than when you first start. So don’t worry about the head lower. Worry about starting your downswing with the lower body. If you do your head will drop too.
April 20, 2013
ThomasLoftusHi Paul,
I am new to Ignition golf but have followed your method for some time now and also have always wondered about the “dipping” of your head on the downswing which seems to be about 4-5 inches in this slow-motion replay. I don’t believe you have ever commented on this move. Would you? Is this a squat? Thanks.
Tim
April 21, 2013
Paul WilsonTim,
Thank you for joining. I just answered this for the gentleman below. So you receive it I have posted it again:
Your head should be dropping at impact. This is due to the tilt of the lower body behind the ball in the downswing. If you start on one angle and hit it on more of an angle your head would be lower than when you first start. So don
April 20, 2013
BrienRicciHi Paul,
I have been a member for a couple of months now and I really like the instruction. The question I have is about how much you bend your left
arm in the backswing ? Do you teach to just let it bend if it needs to ?
I have always thought that my backswing should end at a point where my
left elbow would have to bend to bring it back farther. Do you have advice for me on this point ?
April 21, 2013
Paul WilsonBrien,
Thank you for joining. Glad you like the tips.
A lot of pros bend their arm at the top of the backswing. I have obviously had this question many times. I just cannot keep it any straighter. I have tried and tried. As long as the arm starts straight and is straight by the time you hit the ball it is okay because you are not narrowing the width of the arc.
Left Arm at Top: https://ignitiongolf.com/left-arm-backswing
So keep the arm extended but not locked to the best of your ability. If you lock it you will most likely be too tight in your arms. I am trying to make them powerless as you swing.
April 29, 2013
RaymondCHASTELYou mention not to overrotate the hips :do you consciensly prevent them from overotating by blocking them ,this increasing the ” X” factor ,or don’t you do anyting about it ?
April 30, 2013
Paul WilsonRaymond,
Many years ago I purposely resisted the hip rotation going back. This way to increase torque. Torque repeats 100% of the time in life. You want to be basing your swing on it. If you shoulders turn the most why would you want to move your hips. Would you shoulders not move them perfectly into position without having to think about moving them?
Watch:
How To Stabilize The Lower Body In The Backswing: https://ignitiongolf.com/stabilize-lower-body/
May 22, 2013
RaymondCHASTELI have now the ULTIMATE SWING TRAINER you promote .Apart from this training aid ,I use the MOMENTUS HEAVY DRIVER and the POWER SWING FAN ,and also the MOMENTUS SPEED WHOOSH .
I’ve read that utilizing weighted clubs is not b
May 22, 2013
Paul WilsonRaymond,
I hate heavy clubs. When you swing them your real clubs feel too light. I want your clubs to feel heavy. You would get this heavy feeling if your arms were powerless when you swing. So do not swing heavy clubs. This is why I only promote the short Momentus.
I promote very few training aids. I will be promoting another one in the near future that I really like. Other then the ones on the website use a mirror and your club. Then do practice swings working on my swing positions. You do realize that each of my swing positions gives you feedback to tell if you are doing it right or not. If you can do the positions perfectly by looking for this feedback why use training aids? Get swinging and looking for the feedback.
May 18, 2018
RogerLeePaul. I have noticed that your left foot glides to a more open position as your swing completes. I think this is a significant thing to do either during the swing or perhaps set the left foot to a more open position to allow the hip rotation to complete. I have had trouble with muscles in my left leg requiring some therapy because I was planting my left foot at 10 degrees open and trying to rotate around that fixed position. Interested in your comments here and happy to discuss my problems with you if you want clarification. Note I am 70 years old, but reasonably flexible 88-92 mph swing speed. Enjoyed my live lesson with you a few years back, and look forward to your response.
Roger W. Lee
Austin, TX
May 20, 2018
Paul WilsonRoger,
I don’t really think about this foot or even realize I do this. I think it is just from not practicing. More towards the end it is moving this way as the weight rolls to the outside of my foot. I did a tip on this here:
Forward Foot: https://ignitiongolf.com/follow-through-forward-foot/
May 20, 2018
Steve WeberGreat tip Paul! I thought I was turning enough but this tip showed me I wasn’t. Really easy way to make sure I am.
May 21, 2018
Paul WilsonSteve,
Glad you liked it. This is a good way to check and to get more coil.