Thanks. I tend to move too much because it gives the feeling of Power. Less is more. I will focus on stable lower and the feeling of belt buckle at ball 🙂
This is an excellent description of how to develop the” X FACTOR” ” popularized a long time ago by JIM Mc LEAN ,or dissociation factor
To resist with the lower body ,or “brace the lower body ” “as you say ,you must slightly push forward your right knee while keeping it flexed.There’s a valuable training aid to help you do that,called “LOAD n’FIRE “which you strap on your right knee .Putting a rubber band coiled around your ankles and keeping it fully stretched during the coil also helps.
Hi Paul, thanks for that tip as I’m learning the body swing, guilty of no 3 over rotating the hips as soon as i opening the tip
and i front of my computer and watched the tips i realised i was not getting the torque quit right
Good thing you found this. This is the second power source in your swing. Without this you will keep hitting with arms. See the spring. Coil and uncoil then let the arm go along for the ride.
I really like this tip and I think I have done about four of those faults. This feels totally different to me yet it simplifies everything. Thanks Paul.
Can you address blocking of the shoulder turn with me tightening my right shoulder and possibly re gripping at the top as a result. I can get doing a proper torque-turn which as you suggest does help me get powerless arms which is so enjoyable and powerful. (and helps my score immensely!) My issue is I keep regressing which seems to be starting with my right shoulder not being relaxed and what feels like blocking me from turning properly and getting my back to target … and often when do this also find that I have severely closed the club face which results in a loss of power and pull or if severe, a pull hook. (maybe re gripping?) Any drills to try and get better connection and relaxation for my right side in both backswing and downswing would be so appreciated!
Well, you would tighten because you are trying to get your arms in a position to hit. So no arms for starters. See your body as a spring. You are coiling the top and uncoiling the bottom. So visualize it instead of seeing it as you hitting the ball. Very simple. You are a spring. Then find something that is going to make you coil. Maybe it is the left shoulder, right shoulder, both shoulders instead of back to the target.
The hand is coming off the club because your wrists are too tight. My student today was doing the same thing. Got him to hinge fully and they didn’t come off the club. So:
So I was on the right track but today went completely off the rails. I couldn’t stop over rotating and it just killed my swing today. Many different people I play with call me John Daly and it’s a term I don’t like. What it tells me is just how big my backswing is. Today no matter how hard I tried I saw the club head at the top of my backswing every time, then this just caused horrible shots.
Of course the guys said that my practice swing is nothing like my real swing so I guess I’m trying to “Hit” the ball when it’s go time. What do you think is the best drill I can do to stop this over swing.
I’ve been hitting more birdies and more greens since getting your course 3 weeks ago, along with longer drives then ever, but I just can’t keep it together throughout even 9 holes. For example, went birdie, then 10 on a par 5, bogey, bogey, par, birdie on Tuesday before we got rained out. I think it’s the overswing, but I really need some good tip on stopping this in my backswing and still feeling like I’m generating power.
Yes, you are looking for power going back so you can pull the club down and hit hard with the arms. Using the body is a completely different feeling that you need to get used to. Problem is you haven’t done it long enough to get good at it so you go right back to your old swing. You need to do the first drill at least 30 in a row to see the results. Give it a try. Once you shorten it up you will hit it longer than you eer have. I have shortened countless people over the years and they always hit it longer.
Paul, I bought the BodySwing videos about 4 weeks ago and have been practising since then. However my results only improved dramatically this week when I found this torque video. For the past few weeks I was swinging “torque free” thinking I had an effortless swing and probably doing all 6 of the relieving moves you mention in this video. I have now fixed that and am constantly looking for the stretch. Different things work for different people but certainly for me I think having this torque video in the Bodyswing videos would have been very helpful. Glad I found it though.
Thanks
Glenn
So glad you had a breakthrough. This is an exciting moment. Not sure how you missed torque as this is a huge part of what I teach but now you’ve found it never forget it.
This is what is going to allow you to turn the arms off. No torque and you will hit because you have no other way to do it.
Keep up the good work. Don’t hurt yourself. It is a tight stretch not a hurt stretch.
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23 Responses to “6 Things That Stop Torque”
April 24, 2018
charlesreynerdo you uncoil in reverse order?
April 25, 2018
Paul WilsonCharles,
Yes, you would uncoil from the bottom (legs and hips) up.
April 24, 2018
StianOttersenWhen you say you brace the lower, does that mean you purposely try to resist while coiling from the top?
Thanks!
April 25, 2018
StianOttersenanother question, would also moving head too much in the backswing be a 7th thing to avoid the torque?
April 25, 2018
Paul WilsonStian,
No because I don’t know if I have ever seen the head move too much. It it did you would be swaying sideways which is one of the 6 things.
April 25, 2018
Paul WilsonStian,
Yes, you are purposely trying to resits knowing the shoulder coil will pull you hips. Your hips will pull you knees into position.
How To Stabilize The Lower Body In The Backswing (belt buckle at ball): https://ignitiongolf.com/stabilize-lower-body/
Hips: https://ignitiongolf.com/turning-hips/
Let’s Go Surfing: https://ignitiongolf.com/lets-go-surfing/
April 25, 2018
StianOttersenThanks. I tend to move too much because it gives the feeling of Power. Less is more. I will focus on stable lower and the feeling of belt buckle at ball 🙂
April 26, 2018
Paul WilsonStian,
Yes, less is more but less is tighter so people do more. Think about the spring. How would a spring coil? Then visualize your body as this spring.
April 27, 2018
StianOttersenYou are right, I move too much. Will focus on this now.
April 25, 2018
RaymondCHASTELThis is an excellent description of how to develop the” X FACTOR” ” popularized a long time ago by JIM Mc LEAN ,or dissociation factor
To resist with the lower body ,or “brace the lower body ” “as you say ,you must slightly push forward your right knee while keeping it flexed.There’s a valuable training aid to help you do that,called “LOAD n’FIRE “which you strap on your right knee .Putting a rubber band coiled around your ankles and keeping it fully stretched during the coil also helps.
April 25, 2018
Paul WilsonRaymond,
Yes, this is what he would call the x factor. He will tell you how to do it not why you are avoiding it.
April 25, 2018
malcolmparkerHi Paul, thanks for that tip as I’m learning the body swing, guilty of no 3 over rotating the hips as soon as i opening the tip
and i front of my computer and watched the tips i realised i was not getting the torque quit right
thanks again paul mal parker ( Australia)
April 25, 2018
Paul WilsonMalcolm,
Good thing you found this. This is the second power source in your swing. Without this you will keep hitting with arms. See the spring. Coil and uncoil then let the arm go along for the ride.
April 25, 2018
GLENNWISSEI really like this tip and I think I have done about four of those faults. This feels totally different to me yet it simplifies everything. Thanks Paul.
April 25, 2018
Paul WilsonGlenn,
Glad you liked it. Thanks. This is a huge part of the swing. Go to coil tight.
April 25, 2018
ThomasLucasNailed it! An essential tip. Thanks.
April 25, 2018
Paul WilsonThomas,
Great. Glad you liked it.
April 25, 2018
NormanHurleyCan you address blocking of the shoulder turn with me tightening my right shoulder and possibly re gripping at the top as a result. I can get doing a proper torque-turn which as you suggest does help me get powerless arms which is so enjoyable and powerful. (and helps my score immensely!) My issue is I keep regressing which seems to be starting with my right shoulder not being relaxed and what feels like blocking me from turning properly and getting my back to target … and often when do this also find that I have severely closed the club face which results in a loss of power and pull or if severe, a pull hook. (maybe re gripping?) Any drills to try and get better connection and relaxation for my right side in both backswing and downswing would be so appreciated!
April 25, 2018
Paul WilsonNorman,
Well, you would tighten because you are trying to get your arms in a position to hit. So no arms for starters. See your body as a spring. You are coiling the top and uncoiling the bottom. So visualize it instead of seeing it as you hitting the ball. Very simple. You are a spring. Then find something that is going to make you coil. Maybe it is the left shoulder, right shoulder, both shoulders instead of back to the target.
Here is another one:
Increase Shoulder Turn (seam on shirt): https://ignitiongolf.com/increase-your-shoulder-turn/
The hand is coming off the club because your wrists are too tight. My student today was doing the same thing. Got him to hinge fully and they didn’t come off the club. So:
3 Ways to Set The Top of the Backswing: https://ignitiongolf.com/backswing-top-3-ways/
Also, check your angle of rotation. I get this sense you are tilting too much as you are going back:
Rotational Angle: https://ignitiongolf.com/backswing-rotational-angle/
Turn Back on the Right Angle: https://ignitiongolf.com/backswing-helicopter-blades/
July 7, 2018
ScottSprichHey Paul,
So I was on the right track but today went completely off the rails. I couldn’t stop over rotating and it just killed my swing today. Many different people I play with call me John Daly and it’s a term I don’t like. What it tells me is just how big my backswing is. Today no matter how hard I tried I saw the club head at the top of my backswing every time, then this just caused horrible shots.
Of course the guys said that my practice swing is nothing like my real swing so I guess I’m trying to “Hit” the ball when it’s go time. What do you think is the best drill I can do to stop this over swing.
I’ve been hitting more birdies and more greens since getting your course 3 weeks ago, along with longer drives then ever, but I just can’t keep it together throughout even 9 holes. For example, went birdie, then 10 on a par 5, bogey, bogey, par, birdie on Tuesday before we got rained out. I think it’s the overswing, but I really need some good tip on stopping this in my backswing and still feeling like I’m generating power.
Thanks
July 8, 2018
Paul WilsonScott,
Yes, you are looking for power going back so you can pull the club down and hit hard with the arms. Using the body is a completely different feeling that you need to get used to. Problem is you haven’t done it long enough to get good at it so you go right back to your old swing. You need to do the first drill at least 30 in a row to see the results. Give it a try. Once you shorten it up you will hit it longer than you eer have. I have shortened countless people over the years and they always hit it longer.
Here are the tips you need to follow:
DRILL – Super Short Backswing: https://ignitiongolf.com/drill-super-short-backswing/
How To Shorten Backswing: https://ignitiongolf.com/cure-shorten-backswing/
When To Shorten Your Swing: https://ignitiongolf.com/shorten-your-swing/
September 7, 2018
glennrobertsPaul, I bought the BodySwing videos about 4 weeks ago and have been practising since then. However my results only improved dramatically this week when I found this torque video. For the past few weeks I was swinging “torque free” thinking I had an effortless swing and probably doing all 6 of the relieving moves you mention in this video. I have now fixed that and am constantly looking for the stretch. Different things work for different people but certainly for me I think having this torque video in the Bodyswing videos would have been very helpful. Glad I found it though.
Thanks
Glenn
September 7, 2018
Paul WilsonGlen,
Thank you for finding me and joining us.
So glad you had a breakthrough. This is an exciting moment. Not sure how you missed torque as this is a huge part of what I teach but now you’ve found it never forget it.
This is what is going to allow you to turn the arms off. No torque and you will hit because you have no other way to do it.
Keep up the good work. Don’t hurt yourself. It is a tight stretch not a hurt stretch.