Hi Paul,
Great tip and explanation about the arc of the swing! Is this why your divots with irons are supposed to be going slightly left for a right hand golfer?
Thanks, Mike
As always… you have explained this so we can easily understand and get the fundamental so we can practice the right way to be doing it. I am a complete believer in “swing machine golf” because every time I get the swing right… I hit the ball perfect with no effort. One thing I noticed in the top view slowmo…is that the club face looks open when it is hitting the ball because the shaft is flexing as it swings through the arc. I have also noticed in my set-up that if I address the ball with the club slightly closed I hit straighter shots…it may be that I only think my club face looks closed and in reality it is square…this is a setup problem for me. But does it make sense, that because the club shaft is flexing throught arc the club face is actually slightly open at impact?
You have to be careful with the setup and the clubface. You definitely need to check for it to be square. The clubface will be slightly open at as the club hits the ball. Don’t over-think this. You need to be concerned about getting the wrists to release which will square the club without you thinking about it.
Excellent tip as usual Paul, just a couple of questions, hope you don’t mind answering:
1) I noticed(correct me if I am wrong) that you address the ball before beginning your backswing a couple of inches behind the ball where mine is only about half an inch before beginning the backswing. Is there a reason why you do this?
2) I know that you are got fitted for all the clubs you have but I am just curious what shaft flex were you fitted with ? Is it Regular, Stiff Regular, Stiff and Extra Stiff? The reason I am asking this is because my swing speed for Driver is about 100 to 103 mph and the club fitter fitted me with a Stiff Regular Flex. I would just like to make a comparison.
Thank you so much. I am telling all my golf buddies about you.
Herman.
1. I set the club away from the ball so I do not touch the ball. I don’t want any penalty shots if the ball moves. Do what you are comfortable doing.
2. I have stiff shafts. If you are over 100mph you should be using stiff shafts. If the clubfitter measured your swing speed etc. those should be the right shafts. You will know they are too weak if you are putting good swings on it and hooking it all the time.
Thanks for the promo to your friends. I need all the help I can get.
This tip clearly shows me that the path of my swing is causing my inconsistencies. I’ve been telling myself that the path of my swing should be on the blue line; taking that path has not been working. What I’d like to see now is the take back using the same blue line and slow motion video technique used in this tip. That visualization would help cement the new circular swing path I intend to employ.
I have 2 questions; I notice that your hands look like they are slightly behind the ball at impact & is this something i should be thinking about? Secondly, should the follow thru after impact mirror your back swing path?
This may be the video because I can assure you my hands are not behind the ball at impact. So no, you should not be doing this.
The follow through path should mirror the downswing path not the backswing path. The backswing is steeper than the downswing. As you turn your body first with the arms turned off the clubshaft would flatten as I comes down.
I don’t want to explain D plane. This will only leave everyone confused. Yet again, the golf world is trying to confuse everyone when they should be making things simple. If the best golfer of all time used the old ball flight laws it means they work. I may end up having to do a tip on this someday and explain to the world what they are missing when they explain this and why the old ball flight laws work. Right now they are missing it. It has to do with the face determining the path. It does so but it is not 100% it is only 85%. This is huge in golf where only a few degrees can make of break a golf shot. Think about it and you will get it.
Thanks Paul,
You have a gift in taking a complex subject and explaining it in such a way that it is understandable. Yes, you run the risk of confusing your viewers, but I think your viewers will appreciate the discussion. Understanding the D plane concept will not change my golf swing or improve my game. I just would like to see how you would go about explaining this topic.
Mike
I need a clear mind to wrap my head around the best way to explain it in the most simple terms. My mind if definitely not clear. Once it is I will think about doing it.
I want the arms powerless so the mass stretches the arms out fully. I also want the elbows more together into the follow through. If they separate through the swing they will be apart in the follow through. I have 8 cure chicken wing tips which could help in this area.
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16 Responses to “The Path of the Club Is Circular Not Straight”
July 27, 2012
mikeplummerHi Paul,
Great tip and explanation about the arc of the swing! Is this why your divots with irons are supposed to be going slightly left for a right hand golfer?
Thanks, Mike
July 27, 2012
Paul WilsonGlad you liked it. Thanks. Yes, this is why the divot is slightly left.
July 27, 2012
PeterReimannAs always… you have explained this so we can easily understand and get the fundamental so we can practice the right way to be doing it. I am a complete believer in “swing machine golf” because every time I get the swing right… I hit the ball perfect with no effort. One thing I noticed in the top view slowmo…is that the club face looks open when it is hitting the ball because the shaft is flexing as it swings through the arc. I have also noticed in my set-up that if I address the ball with the club slightly closed I hit straighter shots…it may be that I only think my club face looks closed and in reality it is square…this is a setup problem for me. But does it make sense, that because the club shaft is flexing throught arc the club face is actually slightly open at impact?
July 28, 2012
Paul WilsonPeter, glad I can make it make sense.
You have to be careful with the setup and the clubface. You definitely need to check for it to be square. The clubface will be slightly open at as the club hits the ball. Don’t over-think this. You need to be concerned about getting the wrists to release which will square the club without you thinking about it.
July 27, 2012
HermanKohExcellent tip as usual Paul, just a couple of questions, hope you don’t mind answering:
1) I noticed(correct me if I am wrong) that you address the ball before beginning your backswing a couple of inches behind the ball where mine is only about half an inch before beginning the backswing. Is there a reason why you do this?
2) I know that you are got fitted for all the clubs you have but I am just curious what shaft flex were you fitted with ? Is it Regular, Stiff Regular, Stiff and Extra Stiff? The reason I am asking this is because my swing speed for Driver is about 100 to 103 mph and the club fitter fitted me with a Stiff Regular Flex. I would just like to make a comparison.
Thank you so much. I am telling all my golf buddies about you.
Herman.
July 28, 2012
Paul WilsonHerman, glad you liked it. Thanks.
1. I set the club away from the ball so I do not touch the ball. I don’t want any penalty shots if the ball moves. Do what you are comfortable doing.
2. I have stiff shafts. If you are over 100mph you should be using stiff shafts. If the clubfitter measured your swing speed etc. those should be the right shafts. You will know they are too weak if you are putting good swings on it and hooking it all the time.
Thanks for the promo to your friends. I need all the help I can get.
July 27, 2012
garykaufmanThis tip clearly shows me that the path of my swing is causing my inconsistencies. I’ve been telling myself that the path of my swing should be on the blue line; taking that path has not been working. What I’d like to see now is the take back using the same blue line and slow motion video technique used in this tip. That visualization would help cement the new circular swing path I intend to employ.
July 28, 2012
Paul WilsonThis is a very important tip for you then. Glad you saw it. Now you don’t have to keep trying to hold the face square (which is impossible).
In the takeaway the club will go back slightly inside. You need to watch this tip:
One Piece Takeaway: https://ignitiongolf.com/master-one-piece-takeaway
June 1, 2013
DarrelStutesmanHi Paul,
I have 2 questions; I notice that your hands look like they are slightly behind the ball at impact & is this something i should be thinking about? Secondly, should the follow thru after impact mirror your back swing path?
Darrel
June 2, 2013
Paul WilsonDarrel,
This may be the video because I can assure you my hands are not behind the ball at impact. So no, you should not be doing this.
The follow through path should mirror the downswing path not the backswing path. The backswing is steeper than the downswing. As you turn your body first with the arms turned off the clubshaft would flatten as I comes down.
Watch:
Flatten Plane 1: https://ignitiongolf.com/downswing-flatten-plane
Flatten Plane 2: https://ignitiongolf.com/downswing-flatten-plane-2
June 2, 2013
MichaelSkeelsGreat video,
Would you be interested in doing a video explaining the
June 2, 2013
Paul WilsonMike,
I don’t want to explain D plane. This will only leave everyone confused. Yet again, the golf world is trying to confuse everyone when they should be making things simple. If the best golfer of all time used the old ball flight laws it means they work. I may end up having to do a tip on this someday and explain to the world what they are missing when they explain this and why the old ball flight laws work. Right now they are missing it. It has to do with the face determining the path. It does so but it is not 100% it is only 85%. This is huge in golf where only a few degrees can make of break a golf shot. Think about it and you will get it.
June 3, 2013
MichaelSkeelsThanks Paul,
You have a gift in taking a complex subject and explaining it in such a way that it is understandable. Yes, you run the risk of confusing your viewers, but I think your viewers will appreciate the discussion. Understanding the D plane concept will not change my golf swing or improve my game. I just would like to see how you would go about explaining this topic.
Mike
June 3, 2013
Paul WilsonMike,
I need a clear mind to wrap my head around the best way to explain it in the most simple terms. My mind if definitely not clear. Once it is I will think about doing it.
July 24, 2013
RaymondCHASTELPaul .Is there anything sp
July 25, 2013
Paul WilsonRaymond,
I want the arms powerless so the mass stretches the arms out fully. I also want the elbows more together into the follow through. If they separate through the swing they will be apart in the follow through. I have 8 cure chicken wing tips which could help in this area.