I realize this is a swing drill. However, in an actual swing should you have the sensation of swinging up on a driver where a ball is teed up or does this apply to all your clubs in your bag? The reason I ask is because I often hear that you want this feel for a driver but not for irons. That you want to “sweep” with driver which is different than your other clubs.
I never have the feeling I am swinging up at it but I am not swinging over the top and I am behind it when I hit it. If you are over the top then this swinging up is a great feeling.
You need your body tilted behind the ball as you hit the ball with all clubs. Will the irons swing up in reality? No. This is because the club would be descending as it hits the ball. The length of the club being shorter would create a more descending blow thus hitting the ball then taking a divot. Like I said though, you need to stay behind it so this is a great drill to be doing with all clubs.
Thank you Paul. That’s what I thought. I really enjoy the swing in the air tips. Also the say “yes” tips. I use them and it works. For me swinging through the ball as if the ball is not there is the key to my ability to put a good swing on the shot. In fact I used to practice with my eyes closed hitting into a net. I was amazed how solid I hit the ball. This drill reminds me of another feeling type drill where it feels like you are doing something but in reality it is mostly a feeling. I try to feel like my sternum is pointed behind the ball through impact. This also makes it feel like I am swinging up but in reality I am not. I’m just keeping the tilt in my spine angle and head behind the ball. When I do it right the contact is solid and inspires a lot of confidence. I work on this everyday.
Hi Paul,
When I do this with a golf ball for real at the driving range, the ball goes to the right. Sometimes far right, some times less. I don’t perceive the ball to to be slicing, maybe it is, but if so, then it is a “small slice”. What am I doing wrong?
thanks,
ter
you are pushing it. I do say you will do this in some of the tips about the tilt behind the ball as you hit the ball. Tilt too much right your path will be too much from the inside. If you are doing this and pushing it it is time to work on turning to get it going straight.
If you are slicing you need to do the roll over drill until you never put slice spin on it. It your ball started right and you squared the face you would be hitting a draw. Up to you what you want to hit. I would do roll overs then do the tilt as you are. See what happens. If you like that shot then great keep doing it. If you want it straighter just work on the touch the legs position. This will stop the over tilt and you will hit it straight.
i just had one question on this one. Doesnt the “leaning back” thing eliminate the ability to put 80% of the weight on you front foot , as you say in another video? or does this only count for drivers?
No. You get the backward lean by firing the lower body. It is like hitting the accelerator on a car. When you fire the lower body the upper hangs back creating the tilt. You are not good at it though so you need to manually tilt then once you are doing it stop purposely trying to do it.
Found myself loosing the spine angle on the back swing. This looks like lifting my head however I am loosing spine angle ( standing up). Do you have a drill for this?
You are standing because you are trying to avoid the torque. This is one of the six things. So there isn’t really a drill it is understanding that you want the tight wound up feeling instead of avoiding it.
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10 Responses to “Up In The Air Drills – Body Tilt”
June 9, 2017
PeterSaI realize this is a swing drill. However, in an actual swing should you have the sensation of swinging up on a driver where a ball is teed up or does this apply to all your clubs in your bag? The reason I ask is because I often hear that you want this feel for a driver but not for irons. That you want to “sweep” with driver which is different than your other clubs.
June 9, 2017
Paul WilsonPeter,
I never have the feeling I am swinging up at it but I am not swinging over the top and I am behind it when I hit it. If you are over the top then this swinging up is a great feeling.
You need your body tilted behind the ball as you hit the ball with all clubs. Will the irons swing up in reality? No. This is because the club would be descending as it hits the ball. The length of the club being shorter would create a more descending blow thus hitting the ball then taking a divot. Like I said though, you need to stay behind it so this is a great drill to be doing with all clubs.
Watch:
Illustrating Why A Divot Is Taken: https://ignitiongolf.com/illustrating-divot/
How to Release the Golf Club: https://ignitiongolf.com/impact-wrist-release/
Stop Fat Shots When Working On Moving Your Head: https://ignitiongolf.com/fat-shots-moving-your-head/
These should help you understand why this will work.
June 10, 2017
PeterSaThank you Paul. That’s what I thought. I really enjoy the swing in the air tips. Also the say “yes” tips. I use them and it works. For me swinging through the ball as if the ball is not there is the key to my ability to put a good swing on the shot. In fact I used to practice with my eyes closed hitting into a net. I was amazed how solid I hit the ball. This drill reminds me of another feeling type drill where it feels like you are doing something but in reality it is mostly a feeling. I try to feel like my sternum is pointed behind the ball through impact. This also makes it feel like I am swinging up but in reality I am not. I’m just keeping the tilt in my spine angle and head behind the ball. When I do it right the contact is solid and inspires a lot of confidence. I work on this everyday.
Thank you, Peter
June 12, 2017
Paul WilsonPeter,
Good stuff. I like what you are saying. Sounds like you are on track.
Glad you like the tips.
June 10, 2017
terrybadgerHi Paul,
When I do this with a golf ball for real at the driving range, the ball goes to the right. Sometimes far right, some times less. I don’t perceive the ball to to be slicing, maybe it is, but if so, then it is a “small slice”. What am I doing wrong?
thanks,
ter
June 12, 2017
Paul WilsonTerry,
you are pushing it. I do say you will do this in some of the tips about the tilt behind the ball as you hit the ball. Tilt too much right your path will be too much from the inside. If you are doing this and pushing it it is time to work on turning to get it going straight.
If you are slicing you need to do the roll over drill until you never put slice spin on it. It your ball started right and you squared the face you would be hitting a draw. Up to you what you want to hit. I would do roll overs then do the tilt as you are. See what happens. If you like that shot then great keep doing it. If you want it straighter just work on the touch the legs position. This will stop the over tilt and you will hit it straight.
You need to watch these tips:
How to Cure the Direction: https://ignitiongolf.com/cure-direction/
How to Cure the Spin: https://ignitiongolf.com/fix-spin-problems/
How to Cure the Contact: https://ignitiongolf.com/cure-contact/
How to Cure Spin and Direction Problems: https://ignitiongolf.com/cure-spin-direction-problems/
August 7, 2017
RubenHeinrichHi Paul,
i just had one question on this one. Doesnt the “leaning back” thing eliminate the ability to put 80% of the weight on you front foot , as you say in another video? or does this only count for drivers?
regards. Ruben
August 7, 2017
Paul WilsonRueben,
No. You get the backward lean by firing the lower body. It is like hitting the accelerator on a car. When you fire the lower body the upper hangs back creating the tilt. You are not good at it though so you need to manually tilt then once you are doing it stop purposely trying to do it.
May 3, 2018
KeithBowlesFound myself loosing the spine angle on the back swing. This looks like lifting my head however I am loosing spine angle ( standing up). Do you have a drill for this?
May 4, 2018
Paul WilsonKeith,
You are standing because you are trying to avoid the torque. This is one of the six things. So there isn’t really a drill it is understanding that you want the tight wound up feeling instead of avoiding it.
Pros Know Its A Tight Coil: https://ignitiongolf.com/pros-know-tight-coil/
6 Things That Stop Torque: https://ignitiongolf.com/6-things-that-stop-torque/