Shoulders In The Downswing?

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DavidWeinstein, 5 months ago Log in to Reply

Absolutely right. Since I have been following your method, I “keep my shoulders passive”. Whenever I don’t, I produce a hook.

Davidw
- Paul Wilson, 5 months ago Log in to Reply
  
  David,
  
  Very good. Keep remembering it.
Ben, 5 months ago Log in to Reply

At the top of the backswing I feel like I pause momentarily, long enough to transfer my thoughts to straightening the left leg. This may increase the torque created in the torso, before the arms and shoulders follow the legs. That’s when I get it right, I might get a pull or a push depending on how well I time the downswing trigger. I’m getting more consistent and will persevere, the swing will probably never be perfect but my handicap is dropping.
- Paul Wilson, 5 months ago Log in to Reply
  
  Ben,
  
  That’s great news. I definitely like people to take their time at the top. This takes the strength out of the arms and allows for plenty of time to start the lower body first.
  
  Pause At Top: http://ignitiongolf.com/pause-top-backswing
Nurul AllbiirrNordin, 4 months ago Log in to Reply

Hi paul,

My main problem is when i start my backswing and i tend to drop my shoulder and that resulted club face open at the impact, poor shots- extreme slice to right and hit fat shots.

Please advice me on how to cure this problem and perhaps the best drill to practise. Many thanks.

-albir nordin-
- Paul Wilson, 4 months ago Log in to Reply
  
  Nurul,
  
  I guess you missed the tip I posted last week on this very subject.
  
  Watch:
  
  Turn Back on the Right Angle: http://ignitiongolf.com/backswing-helicopter-blades/
  
  Then do these 2 drills:
  
  DRILL: Sit On The Edge Of A Bar Stool To Set Up – Part 1 of 2: http://ignitiongolf.com/setup-edge-of-bar-stool/
  
  DRILL: How To Feel Torque In Your Backswing – Part 2 of 2: http://ignitiongolf.com/drill-feel-torque-backswing/
Nurul AllbiirrNordin, 4 months ago Log in to Reply

Thanks Paul
- Paul Wilson, 4 months ago Log in to Reply
  
  Glad you liked it. Thanks.
BruceLaughton, 1 week ago Log in to Reply

Hi Paul:

I am sure you talk about it in your vast library of tips and if so, I would appreciate pointing the way to the video.

When I make the swing based on your coaching, it feels (based on years of arm swinging) like my shoulders are lagging waaaay behind my lower body and the ball contact occurs far later in the swing than what I am used to. When I do this, the results are great BUT fighting against that “loss of control” causes me no end of problems as my arms kick in to “catch up” yielding disastrous results.

Breaking years of bad habits are hard and the brain works against you in those circumstances. Could you also point to the videos where I could get a slow motion view that will show this “lag” in your swing as viewed face to face during your setup?

I love your program.

Bruce
- Paul Wilson, 5 days ago Log in to Reply
  
  Bruce,
  
  Glad you like the site. I appreciate the feedback.
  
  As far as lag is concerned, once you uncoil your lower body your upper body should be immediately following. This is the spring-like effect I describe in these 3 videos:
  
  Coiling: http://ignitiongolf.com/learn-coil-backswing
  Uncoil 1: http://ignitiongolf.com/uncoil
  Uncoil 2: http://ignitiongolf.com/uncoil-follow-up
  
  I wouldn’t say I feel the arms lagging way behind but for someone who has been hitting for a long time maybe this is the correct feeling. To take the arms out of your swing understand that YES this is an out of control sensation. The club should be swinging where ever it wants to swing. The consistency is created because the mass (club) cannot swing any wider than its widest arc. The forces acting on the mass will allow the mass to swing to its widest point 100% of the time (this is where both arms are stretched out again). So embrace this out of control feeling. In a couple of weeks this should feel normal.
  
  ——————————
  
  Do this drill right away:
  
  DRILL: This Is The Best Drill You Should Be Doing Right Now: http://ignitiongolf.com/drill-three-quarter-distance/
  
  ——————————
  
  Lag Videos:
  
  How to Feel Lag: http://ignitiongolf.com/downswing-lag-1
  
  How To Feel Lag 2: http://ignitiongolf.com/lag-follow-up
  
  Lag Drill: http://ignitiongolf.com/drill-lag
  
  Lag Drill 2: http://ignitiongolf.com/drill-move-hips-hold-lag
  
  Old But Good Lag Drill: http://ignitiongolf.com/old-good-lag-drill/
  
  Lag And Release Drill: http://ignitiongolf.com/lag-release-drill
  
  How Lag Affects Power: http://ignitiongolf.com/power-lag/
  
  Holding Your Lag Angle Too Long?: http://ignitiongolf.com/hold-lag-too-long/