Drill: Hit, Hold and Check

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Paul Wilson

Paul Wilson is the creator of Swing Machine Golf and founder of Ignition Golf. Paul's golf swing technique is based on the Iron Byron swing machine. YouTube Channels: Paul Wilson Golf and Ignition Golf Tips. Please Join me on Google+

25 Responses to “Drill: Hit, Hold and Check”

  1. January 16, 2013

    MichaelBlock

    Hi Pau:

    Can you get to those two check points and swing wrong such as with the hands? Or are those two positions proof that you had good form throughout naturally to the follow-thru position.

    • Paul Wilson

      January 16, 2013

      Paul Wilson

      Micheal,

      If you do something wrong at impact you will not get to these positions unless of course you did some serious manipulation long after the ball was hit. So you are going to this ending to fix the rest of your swing. It’s tough to change when the club is swinging approx. 100 mph. Why not fix the ending when it is moving slower? So stick to hitting this exact position and you will see the rest of your golf swing change.

  2. January 17, 2013

    NeilGabbey

    Paul
    -There is only one swing, all that varies is the angle of the wrists. Right?
    Then why is it that when i setup with my short irons using the same knee flex (knees should just obstruct view of shoe laces) and parallel arms/thigh plane as when I play driver/5 wood, the head of the clubs can’t even touch the ground, no matter how much I straighten my wrists. Do I need these short irons lengthened. We’re talking about 10-12 inches longer (I’m 6’4″)? I have a standard off the shelf set.
    -As the hips turn left through the swing, the left knee must lock out. Right?
    To be able to hit the ball with shorter irons, I adjust my stance to suit; I increase knee flex and torso lean (keeping shoulder, knee and feet in a line). As I turn the hips left I must also maintain this new elevation in order not to top the ball; if I straighten the left leg I top it. I end up sort of sliding.

    • January 19, 2013

      NeilGabbey

      OK I get it. These comments are about the video, not about each individual problem you have.

      • Paul Wilson

        January 20, 2013

        Paul Wilson

        Neil,

        You can post any question here but if you can find a video address your problem and post it there that would be better. Then it will help others who also watch that video.

  3. March 29, 2013

    barrybower

    Paul this is a bit of repeat of the first comment, am i correct in that ,if i get to the proper finish position consistanrty with arms and knees,i should have hit a decent shot. i feel like i reach these follow through positions ,when i see my swing on video it looks like i am still coming over the top ,not enough lower body at start . If i work harder on the follow through position will this promote a more consistant lower body start. Trying all the drills finding it hard to break the over the top move at start of downswing

    • Paul Wilson

      March 31, 2013

      Paul Wilson

      Barry,

      Yes, you need to hit these positions. You need to do so by using your body first then the powerless arms follow.

      In firing the lower body first the upper body should be tilting to the right or staying behind the ball when you are in the downswing. This staying behind the ball or tilt determines the path from the inside. If you are coming over the top you are shifting too soon onto the left leg and/or starting the arms first. So keep trying to turn off the arms. Keep working on getting separation between the hips and club coming down.

      If you are still having trouble just manually tilt your body right in the downswing so you get used to it. This is a quick fix but without you here it is a little difficult to give you the exact feeling. Maybe you should do a Video Golf Lesson so we can check it. I rarely ever see anyone doing these positions exactly as I want them too. For the sake of a few bucks we can eliminate all doubt: Go here for more information: http://paulwilsongolf.com/las-vegas-golf-lessons/video-golf-lessons.htm

      Watch:

      Separation: http://ignitiongolf.com/separation

      Do this drill constantly:

      DRILL: Swing Off Ground: http://ignitiongolf.com/drill-swing-off-ground
      Drill: Swing Off Ground Variation: http://ignitiongolf.com/drill-variation-favorite-drill/
      Drill: My Favorite Drill

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  5. Hi Paul

    This bring me to the question of the pre shot routine. Should this “two points check” be part of my prE shot routine?

    • Paul Wilson

      March 31, 2013

      Paul Wilson

      David,

      You should be doing 2 practice swings before each shot. When you do them you should be checking these 2 things.

  6. March 30, 2013

    jimmarlow

    Hi Paul,

    I find that if I hit those two positions that it usually results in a good shot, however I can hit the positions and still pull the ball. I then can tilt back at the start of my downswing ( your recent suggestion) and it tends to straighten it out.

    I have been working hard at effortless arms and when using my driver I had a feeling that was unique to me and was wondering if this feeling is an indication that I am closer.
    The feeling is very relaxed arms and then I feel an involuntary rolling over of my wrists at impact with the solid contact and a straight ball flight. Is that feeling of a loose involuntary rotation of the wrists the feeling we are striving for? It’s what I feel when I do your over the ball practice swing.

    • Paul Wilson

      March 31, 2013

      Paul Wilson

      Jim,

      If you are pulling you are starting your arms first. This is a fact. You can keep tilting until you are used to it as a quick fix. Firing the lower body should be doing this but just explaining it to people sometimes does not allow them to get it. I really need to get you doing it live. It takes fast hip rotation allowing them to get ahead of the hands coming down (separation). If you are not working on it in drills you will never get it. This is because you are an adult. Kids do not have power in the arms so they get it immediately.

      So yes, I want the arms looser. Yes, it is involuntary roll over. This occurs because they are loose. The club should feel heavy and it should feel like you did not hit anything at all.

      Keep working on this:

      Separation: http://ignitiongolf.com/separation

      Do this drill constantly:

      DRILL: Swing Off Ground: http://ignitiongolf.com/drill-swing-off-ground
      Drill: Swing Off Ground Variation: http://ignitiongolf.com/drill-variation-favorite-drill/
      Drill: My Favorite Drill

  7. April 21, 2013

    RobertHorgan

    Paul, I’m looking forward to coming out to Vegas in a few weeks for three days of lessons with you. I love all the tips and have a few questions about the follow through. I have been working on a video of Mo Norman’s, and am having great success with emulating his rather bizarre follow through. He talks about pointing the hands toward the target at the finish, and the results have been great. Why do you think it is necessary to have the club finish in back of the head?
    Thanks,
    Bob

    • Paul Wilson

      April 23, 2013

      Paul Wilson

      Robert,

      It is necessary because the mass club is swinging at 90 degrees to the axis (body) plus you can do the exact same swing every time. If you hit this position you will look like you can shoot 65. If your club is parallel today and parallel 5 years years from now it is the same position. It also indicates your wrists are re-hinging properly.

      Sure, you may be getting half decent results right now. Maybe this is because you are actually thinking of getting through to this follow through position instead of hitting the ball. If you do not hit the exact same spot every time I am worried it will fall apart in the future.

      Be prepared to make this change.

  8. Another excellent way to auto correct yourself .The ” wrong position ” you d

    • Raymond,

      There has to be a reason some many people hit bad 3 woods shots. I just thought about the common denominator. Hitting too hard is it. I would rather hit a good 3 wood short than a topped or thin 3 wood. Once you keep hitting them well you gain confidence.

      • Paul ,There must also be a reason related to the clubhead Speed :itopping or hitting thin the fairway Woods never happens when I “wield “the 5 Wood .So I have taken to Play this club instead OF the 3 Wood :it givres a Nice high flight ,but OF course it’s shorter than a Well struck 3 Wood .There’s a hell OF a difference between a 15

        • Raymond,

          Once you get to 3 wood you are at that point of very little loft on the club so it is real easy to lose it and of course it is getting close to a driver so we want to go all out with it. Just do some easy 3 woods. Get confident and you will be able to increase later. You just have to see some good shots with it so you know you will hit it well.

  9. Paul ,I know you don’t like fiddling with the stance and posture.
    However I tried this morning ,on the golf course ,hitting my driver off the tee with a slightly closed stance ,clubface orientated towards the target ,so as to draw the balI.(I read that BOOBY LOCKE ,who was not very long ,did it consistently in all his shots down to the putter )
    I gained distance ,roughly 10/20 yards of carry and roll .
    I did feel uncomfortable with this closed stance ,and on one occasion ,I didn’t draw the ball at all and it flew directly into a tree on the right side of the fairway.
    Could you please comment on this “experiment ”
    By the way ,I did hit some very good 3 woods off the turf ,but I missed some also ,always the same reason :STUCK ON THE TRAILING LEG ,no rotation forwards …
    Another final question :in your method ,you rotate forwards .
    Another instructor (MARTIN CHUCK -REVOLUTION GOLF )advises to “lift “your body when going forwards in the through swing.
    I don’t do it at all (I don’tfeel in any case ) and on the contrary ,I try to “stay down on the ball”,so as not to top it or not hit it thin .
    Any comments ?

    • Raymond,

      If you are closing your stance you are pulling it. When you pull it you de-loft it so it will always go a little farther. The problem as you found out is when you actually swing down the line you are aimed. You end up hitting it straight right (which is actually a straight shot relative to where you are aimed).

      I really don’t like this but Hogan and Moe Norman did it too. Maybe it was a quest for power in these players as well.

      Why would you lift your body going through the ball? I guess when you are very tilted at address and doing a reverse pivot in your golf swing this is the only way you can clear the club and stop skying it.

      How much do you lift? How do you practice lifting? How do you gain consistency lifting up? Did the best players of all time lift through impact? Why do you need to lift? What is the logic behind lifting? How does lifting effect the physics behind the mass that is swinging? Does Iron Byron lift?

  10. Paul ,Thanks for the answer.I ‘ll stop my experiments with closing my stance,I really feel uneasy and unsecure when I do so:if I miss the draw ,then the ball goes straight right as it did yesterday on one occasion and I lost all the benefit of the so called draw by hitting a tree on the right side of the fairway.
    As for the “lifting”in the follow through advised by MARTIN CHUCK ,I guess it comes fromh is position at address where he has most of his weight on the left leg ,as when you adopt the STACK and TILT method

  11. Paul ,I agree with you: I look up too many golf sites ,out of curiosity .REVOLUTION GOLF ,where initially you teached ,is one of them.
    But their lessons are far too short and superficial ,not in depth I mean ,while you,you “dig in “in your excellent videos .
    MARTIN CHUCK is their most” brilliant “demonstrator,but he’s often very difficult to understand ,all the more that he”s a “crypto “STACK AND TILT player ,though he claims he is not ,but says he is a MOE NORMAN admirer and a GEORGE KNUDSON follower (He is not !)
    The guys from JIM Mc LEAN are good also ,but also very ,very superficial

    • Raymond,

      Different strokes for different folks.

      I just want to explain it in a way you actually know exactly why you should be doing it. I hate guess-work. So I will continue to do what I do. Hopefully, words gets out.

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