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Paul Wilson is the creator of Swing Machine Golf and founder of Ignition Golf. Paul's golf swing technique is based on the Iron Byron swing machine.
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February 1, 2013
Could you discuss how wrist bowing and ulnar deviation work with your swing mechanics? All the great ball strikers use wrist bowing at the point of impact. I tried to slow down some of your video but the frames per sec would not allow me to get an accurate picture. Thanks.
This is one of the things that separates my from other teachers. I don’t care about impact. I care about a point after impact I refer to as the release point. Why don’t I care about impact? At impact there is forward shaft lean therefore the club is not at its widest point. The widest point does not occur until after the ball is hit. If you are using physics to hit a golf ball it would mean that the mass would always swing to the widest point 100% of the time. If you let the mass swing wherever it wants to swing (no manipulation with your hands and arms) the mass would go to the widest point 100% of the time. This means impact would take care of itself because it is not the widest point.
I have done numerous tips on this. You can find them here:
Why The Shaft Is Leaning At Impact: http://ignitiongolf.com/shaft-leaning-impact
How to Release the Golf Club: http://ignitiongolf.com/impact-wrist-release
Manually Square the Clubface: http://ignitiongolf.com/impact-squaring-clubface
Manually Square the Clubface (Follow Up): http://ignitiongolf.com/impact-squaring-face-follow-up
Back Wrist at Impact: http://ignitiongolf.com/impact-back-wrist
Knuckles Down At Impact: http://ignitiongolf.com/knuckles-down-impact
February 2, 2013
Paul, Thanks. I get it now. By focusing on the point of impact I will lose the power attained by the release you discuss. From experience, I know that what you say is true. I began to think about this after viewing the lag training devise. The devise does break the swing into a disjointed segment and I find that when I do this I begin think to much about the sequence. I think I will focus more on the release point and just keep the wrists loose. In fact, what I have found is that when I stay loose and forget about my arms is when I hit the ball furthest using you methodology. The golf industry is full of garbage swing aids (I have many myself). Thanks again.
Paul, I would like to suggest that you look at the SNAG golf snapper. It is the only devise that I know of that actually gives feedback on what you are trying to teach (other than actually hitting a ball). If you do the release you describe with the devise, it has a loud snapping sound. See it at: http://youtu.be/XoGDLz_ybm8 and wrist drills at http://youtu.be/9kdoZBi1lf4 .
The snap tools are used in a game for kids, but it’s a great teaching aid as well. Thoughts?
February 3, 2013
I cannot see how this would ever fix your swing. I guarantee when someone swings this they will be doing so with their arms. Take it away and they will still be hitting at the ball. The UST ingrains the swing position this is why I recommend it. After you use it for a while and you go to hit balls you still feel like you are using it. This is why it is a great training aid.
There are a ton of training aids out there. I only promote ones that work. This one really is great to feel the lag, increase turn and stop over the top. Plus, you can just use it at home.
The release point is huge in the golf swing. So many people are working on forward shaft lean when really this occurs due to having the right fundamentals. Funny game. Just need to see it a little differently. I think you get it.
February 15, 2013
Dear Paul ,
This question is not related directly to the lag and the release issues :what have you to say regarding the ” barstool ” position at the beginning of the downswing ! Is it a MUST to hit the ball further or is it just a gimmick ?As for myself ,I found out I Would gain 5 MPH doing so !
I did 2 tips on the barstool recently. I think this is what you are talking about:
DRILL: Sit On The Edge Of A Bar Stool To Set Up – Part 1 of 2: http://ignitiongolf.com/setup-edge-of-bar-stool/
DRILL: How To Feel Torque In Your Backswing – Part 2 of 2: http://ignitiongolf.com/drill-feel-torque-backswing/
August 2, 2013
Video for the Ultimate Swing Trainer “has been removed by the user”. Don’t understand. Also, video not working elsewhere by the Ad. . JDS
August 3, 2013
Thanks for noticing that. I will have another video up shortly.
Okay, the video is back up.
December 2, 2014
Hi Paul, Hope a is well. Like this slow motion shot. so this feeling would be the same as dropping it in the slot? Could you do a tip on “the slot”. I think it is important because most players want to hit and this may get them to eliminate the urge to hit.
Marc (Jupiter, Fl.)
December 3, 2014
This would be the slot. You get into the slot by allowing forces to act on the mass. Forces repeat 100% of the time in life. What better thing to be basing your swing on?
I also have tips on this here:
Flatten Plane 1: http://ignitiongolf.com/downswing-flatten-plane
Flatten Plane 2: http://ignitiongolf.com/downswing-flatten-plane-2
Right Elbow: http://ignitiongolf.com/downswing-right-elbow
January 5, 2015
I notice in your downswing especially at the release point your right shoulder is much lower than your left (this is very clear if you pause the slo-mo). This seems to be different than the helicopter drill in which emphasize keeping the club parallel to ground. Can you clarify this for me? Thanks,
The helicopter drill is a warm up drill to get you lose and understand how to coil. When doing your swing you are tilted to get to the ball so there is no way the shoulders would be level going back. Coming down the right shoulder is lower due to more tilt in the downswing then when you first started at address. This tilt behind the ball occurs due to the shift and turn between the 2 pivot points (your legs). If you had 1 leg or hit it with your feet together you would turn through on the same angle you turned back because you would be swinging around 1 axis.
So just do the helicopter drill to understand is a circular coiling motion, the coiling create torque and the coiling loosens you up before your round.
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