PAUL,U DIDN’T GIVE ENOUGH INFO ON EXACTLY WHERE ON THE CLOCK U START THE BACKSWING,AND CONVERSELY THE DOWNSWING–IF UR BENT OVER,ARE U IMAGINING THE BACKSWING GOING TO 3 OR 4 AND THEN UP TO 6,,,OR WHAT–WE NEED MORE INFO AND LESS AMBIGUITY
It is not meant to be technical. Just go out the next time and imagine you are the post of the clock and your arms represent the arms and see what happens. You are turning back to 3 o’clock then hinge it up. I think I said that in the tip. Once you get to the top you are going the other way with your legs and hips. When you do this imagine you are the post again. If you totally went sideways that wouldn’t work too well.
Paul, I’m really getting that easy swing look now but still pushing to the right more often than not, I’ve started to roll my hands over to shut the face, I’m getting big hooks like you say what would happen. When I time it just right it goes straight and the ball has tremendous zip on it., it’s like I’m snapping my wrists to get a huge whip. Even though my arms feels powerless it seems I’m putting hand action in there ( with very nice results). Would you advise me not to get into this habit?
If you are working on the roll over drill you will feel your hands and arms because you are manually rolling them. I need you to do this thousands of times until you get it smooth and you get rid of the slice spin. Once you do this you then forget the rolling (make the arms powerless) and it will happen all on its own. Think about it. If you roll it and the face closes you are no longer a slicer so you need to get rid of the slice spin. Do whatever it takes to do this which means you need to manually roll them. Once you do, your focus switches to the body rotation to straighten it out.
In the backswing, I’m trying to move from a early wrist hinge which starts after the two feet one piece takeaway and prior to the 3 o’clock position, to a later hinge towards the top of the swing. I need some clarification about what the arms do next once I reach the 3 o’clock position (by using a one piece takeaway and I keep turning my shoulders) are the arms to move up after reaching the 3 o’clock position into a late wrist hinge via momentum??
Thanks in advance!…Dan
For me, they go up into position without thinking about it. For you it might be something you have to work on for a while until they set on their own. Keep in mind powerless arms is in the downswing so there are times when you need to physically set the club so it gets to the top in position. Like I said, after you do this for a while it should go there on its own:
Thanks Paul for getting back to me so quickly! I really, really, like your website. I’m new to Ignitiongolf and have been navigating through a lot of the content (I’m retired). What I like is:
1. your intro video
2. Start here lessons
3. additional links to each lesson.
4. Comments from other members (i.e. Zam had the same question I had).
I also really enjoyed the lessons with Kevin. We are the same age and I struggled with many of the same issues.
I’m confident your suggest links will help me. Thanks again….Dan
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11 Responses to “Think Of A Clock Face”
October 11, 2013
richmosneyPAUL,U DIDN’T GIVE ENOUGH INFO ON EXACTLY WHERE ON THE CLOCK U START THE BACKSWING,AND CONVERSELY THE DOWNSWING–IF UR BENT OVER,ARE U IMAGINING THE BACKSWING GOING TO 3 OR 4 AND THEN UP TO 6,,,OR WHAT–WE NEED MORE INFO AND LESS AMBIGUITY
October 11, 2013
Paul WilsonRich,
It is not meant to be technical. Just go out the next time and imagine you are the post of the clock and your arms represent the arms and see what happens. You are turning back to 3 o’clock then hinge it up. I think I said that in the tip. Once you get to the top you are going the other way with your legs and hips. When you do this imagine you are the post again. If you totally went sideways that wouldn’t work too well.
October 11, 2013
ThomasLoftusKudos on the visual Paul. Crystal clear. May be your best tip ever. Thanks.
October 11, 2013
Paul WilsonThomas,
Glad you liked it. Thanks.
October 11, 2013
jasonstanleyPaul, I’m really getting that easy swing look now but still pushing to the right more often than not, I’ve started to roll my hands over to shut the face, I’m getting big hooks like you say what would happen. When I time it just right it goes straight and the ball has tremendous zip on it., it’s like I’m snapping my wrists to get a huge whip. Even though my arms feels powerless it seems I’m putting hand action in there ( with very nice results). Would you advise me not to get into this habit?
October 11, 2013
Paul WilsonJason,
If you are working on the roll over drill you will feel your hands and arms because you are manually rolling them. I need you to do this thousands of times until you get it smooth and you get rid of the slice spin. Once you do this you then forget the rolling (make the arms powerless) and it will happen all on its own. Think about it. If you roll it and the face closes you are no longer a slicer so you need to get rid of the slice spin. Do whatever it takes to do this which means you need to manually roll them. Once you do, your focus switches to the body rotation to straighten it out.
October 11, 2013
chrisboddenPaul,
Thanks for the great visual and explanation, awesome tip.
All the best,
Chris
October 11, 2013
Paul WilsonChris,
Thanks, glad you liked it.
December 20, 2018
DanielDonovanHi Paul,
In the backswing, I’m trying to move from a early wrist hinge which starts after the two feet one piece takeaway and prior to the 3 o’clock position, to a later hinge towards the top of the swing. I need some clarification about what the arms do next once I reach the 3 o’clock position (by using a one piece takeaway and I keep turning my shoulders) are the arms to move up after reaching the 3 o’clock position into a late wrist hinge via momentum??
Thanks in advance!…Dan
December 21, 2018
Paul WilsonDaniel,
For me, they go up into position without thinking about it. For you it might be something you have to work on for a while until they set on their own. Keep in mind powerless arms is in the downswing so there are times when you need to physically set the club so it gets to the top in position. Like I said, after you do this for a while it should go there on its own:
Lead Arm Rides Up: https://ignitiongolf.com/lead-arm-rides-up/
Lead Arm Rides Up Example: https://ignitiongolf.com/lead-arm-rides-up-example/
Cupped or Flat: https://ignitiongolf.com/top-backswing-cupped-flat/
Top of Backswing Square: https://ignitiongolf.com/backswing-square-at-top/
December 21, 2018
DanielDonovanThanks Paul for getting back to me so quickly! I really, really, like your website. I’m new to Ignitiongolf and have been navigating through a lot of the content (I’m retired). What I like is:
1. your intro video
2. Start here lessons
3. additional links to each lesson.
4. Comments from other members (i.e. Zam had the same question I had).
I also really enjoyed the lessons with Kevin. We are the same age and I struggled with many of the same issues.
I’m confident your suggest links will help me. Thanks again….Dan