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How To Work On Forward Shaft Lean And Full Release
By Paul Wilson | on July 28, 2017 | 14 Comments |
Tags: Forward Shaft LeanHow to Release the Golf ClubRelease
Paul Wilson is the creator of Swing Machine Golf and founder of Ignition Golf. Paul's golf swing technique is based on the Iron Byron swing machine. YouTube Channels: Paul Wilson Golf and Ignition Golf Tips. Please Join me on Google+
14 Responses to “How To Work On Forward Shaft Lean And Full Release”
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October 6, 2012FrancisKuntz
The Video seems to be broken
October 8, 2012Paul Wilson
Francis, This tip is now working. Please watch it here: https://ignitiongolf.com/shaft-lean-full-release/
October 17, 2012GeorgeNordhaug
I have watched a couple of the videos of your swing in slow motion, when you talk about forward shaft lean, are you talking about when the shaft actually bends forward as it strikes the ball(which I believe is from the whipping action you refer to)? I played a round last weekend and have been working on loosening the wrist drill before my swing, when I took a couple of practice swings that felt like everything was loose as it should be, I thought I felt the club almost jump forward through the swing. Is this right or was I doing something wrong? Thanks for all the great tips and keep up the great work!
October 17, 2012Paul Wilson
George, The bending of the shaft is the camera. Here is an article on it: http://www.tutelman.com/golf/measure/focalPlaneDistortion.php
Forward shaft is is when your hands are ahead of the ball while the club is just making contact with the ball. This means the shaft is angle forward at impact. This is due to the club not being at the widest point of the arc.
I like the fact that you are loosening up the arms. For someone who has been hitting this is a great feeling. If you are noticing effortless solid shots this is the sign that you are getting it. Now you just have to keep doing it.
October 13, 2014DennisKinkade
Paul,I have one area of the golf swing that I have not seen addressed. I understand the loose wrists approach,as I have always held my wrists too firmly. When I try loosening arms and wrists up,on the takeaway,it FEELS like the grip moves before the clubhead. Am I doing it wrong,or should I have a slight firmness in my wrists until everything gets going?
October 14, 2014Paul Wilson
If you are doing this more than 1 inch you are to loose. The club would lag in the early instance of the swing would be because the club is heavy and you are rotating first as you go back. In doing so, it take a split second for the club to get in motion. I filmed my swing from above a long time and and I do this but again, about 1 inch then it starts moving. Byron Nelson did this too. It is clearly shown in one of his books.
I did a tip on this here:
DRILL: Takeaway Butt First: https://ignitiongolf.com/one-piece-takeaway-drill/
If you are exaggerating this you need to work on my takeaway:
One Piece Takeaway: https://ignitiongolf.com/master-one-piece-takeaway
Hope this helps.
July 28, 2017DIONWALTER
These videos on the Release are very helpful. In my constant learning (like all of us;) starting to be conscious of the release and full extension was VERY helpful. It cured much of my arm tension and chicken wing problems or at least gave me a method to counter that when it crept back in. Thanks
July 30, 2017Paul Wilson
Glad you like them. This is a very important part of the swing. Mastering this will not only give you power but consistency as well.
July 31, 2017DonaldSchwass
Great tip again, Paul. I was losing 10-15 yards on my sand and gap wedge. I was manipulating my “hold the angle” in my mind, not releasing at bottom of arc. Thanks
July 31, 2017Paul Wilson
Yes, holding this angle can be easily done. I say a person on the range holding this angle so long I actually shot a video of his swing. No wonder hit was hitting it everywhere. Let it go!
July 31, 2017RaymondCHASTEL
Paul ,I mentioned to you a long time ago a training aid which is used by Pro’s and Top golfers alike .
It’s called the DST Compressor and exists as a wedge or an 8 iron
You hated that device and seeing this video I understand now why ,it teaches you to overdo the release .
Do I interpret your thoughts accurately ?
July 31, 2017Paul Wilson
Exactly, If you overdo the release you will lose power and hit it everywhere. The wrists are a hinge. If so, they need to re-hinge and not be all locked up.
September 22, 2017AnthonyGuidice
Okay – try not to get irritated at this question . . .
Sometimes I think someone either has the ability to play well, or you don’t . . .
To obtain forward shaft lean, how do you keep the club loose? It seems like the two cannot exist simultaneously.
Asked another way: If your left wrist must remain straight through impact, you have to grip the club – so your arms have to be involved in the swing.
Sometimes the sensation feels like either (1) there’s no control over the club, or (2) I’m swinging with my arms.
There has to be control over the club, yet the action has to be loose to whip through the strike zone. To me the two sometimes seem mutually exclusive.
(Some people are tone deaf. And some can’t fathom that a Dm9 chord has the same notes as an FM7 depending on what key you’re in.)
Maybe some people can just never swing loosely, controlled, with power.
September 22, 2017Paul Wilson
You don’t get whey the club is leaning. It is leaning because it is not at the widest point of the arc. Why wouldn’t you be able to do this if your wrists were loose?
Why The Shaft Is Leaning At Impact: https://ignitiongolf.com/shaft-leaning-impact/
You also don’t understand powerless arms. This is not floppy arms. This is you not hitting or helping the shot with your arms. I used to be ahip height in the downswing. At this point I would help it. This is hitting. Then I understood that this was not powerless arms. When I realized this I stopped trying to help the shot. If you are not helping it your arms would be powerless. They are moved by your body. In no way are you physically moving them. This is powerless arms.
What Is Powerless Arms?: https://ignitiongolf.com/what-is-powerless-arms/
Powerless Arms vs Floppy Arms: https://ignitiongolf.com/powerless-arms-vs-floppy-arms/
Getting back to your original question, if you start on 1 angle and you hit it more tiled why would their not be angle in your wrists. There would because the widest point would move ahead of the ball.
In no way have I ever worked on forward shaft lean yet I have it. How did I get it if I have never worked on it? Focus on not hitting. Keep the wrists loose and use your body to hit the ball. If so, you too will get the backwards tilt. Your arms will stretch out past the ball thus creating the angle at impact.