I have been working on you drills, and am struggling with the uncoil of the upper body. I’m beginning to move my hips first and can rotate my shoulders to about 90 degrees. But when I begin to uncoil, I just can’t seem to uncoil without using my tight arms and tight wrists and usually end up pulling my arms closer to my body and not fully using my widest arc. Not sure what if anything more you can say about this movement or trigger, but if so I will appreciate it.
GaryGrieve
Everyone struggles with the uncoil so you are not alone. The main thing people do wrong is try to do everything at top speed. These are new and different moves. If you have been hitting with the arms forever this feeling and thought it ingrained. So, why not hit shots at 2/3 distance? Get used to the new feeling of not hitting anything. Then power it up with the legs. This would be what I call making the switch. Turning the arms off is completely different. This means there are new feeling and thoughts that you need to get used to and good at.
The pulling the arms closer is you hitting. I did a tip on it here:
That is the best tip ever!!! I had never thought of “separation” as what separates the pros from the rest of us but I am sure you are right. And I agree with your analysis that kids who learn before they develop upper arm strength do it naturally while those of us who learned later have to work hard to unlearn our upper-body driven swing and that takes thousands of repetitions.
Paul,I do this “up in the air ” drill with the four finned . POWER FAN .
Is it OK to do So ,or better with the Driver ortie Sand Wedge as you showed yesterday?
Driver is best. It’s longer and creates more wind resistance so you can hear it. I used sand wedge to work on lag because I was just hitting short shots lagging it. You can use longer club to work on lag in practice swings if you want.
I did lag drills with short clubs because I was just hitting short shots holding the lag angle. Working on separation you would do so with longer club if you are holding the club in the air. This way you can hear the club swinging. You drive the legs and hips harder to make the club sound faster as it swings. You can certainly work on everything with both short and longer clubs.
Power Fan is a training aid from years ago. It’s a grip with fan blades and you swing it. The bladed create resistance.
I’ve been working on “separation” for a while now and finally starting to see some positive results. I was guilty early on of doing your favorite drill correctly for a couple of swings and then lowering it to swing through a leaf or such. I did this because I knew I would have to be able to lower it on the course I guess. I know I need to get back to doing the drill correctly but was wondering if doing ten or twenty above the groung swings for every one lowered swing would be an acceptable approach.
That is why it separates pros from amateurs. Do the drill constantly holding the club in the air. Then you are not thinking hit and can feel the hips powering the swing.
There are tons of tips on curing a pull on the site both in the Dahsboard and on the original site.
Your body affects direction. Tilt left and you will hit it left. Tilt right and you will hit it right. You are hitting it left. This is because your body is tilting left in the downswing. When you try to get the lower body moving you are immediately shifting to the forward leg. I am not doing this. I fire the lower like hitting the accelerator on a car it throw my whole upper body back tilting it behind the ball in the downswing. So you need to be working on this tilt. Watch:
Happy New Year Paul! BTW,I’m living proof that your method works. Not to “blow my own horn” but to add further credence to your methods…..I started golfing for the first time 19 August 2012, joined your site 20 Sept 2012…….performed your “favourite drill” regularly (several times per week ever since I saw that tip)……finally got the “separation” thing and thus,flattening the swing plane, last summer. 2015 average score was 82.5 (71 rounds) Index 8.2. Just turned 55 yrs old in July. Thanx a ton!
Paul,
I put an impact sticker on my driver to check contact. I hit 3 or 4 shots more than 1/2 inch off center towards the heal side of the club face. I then tried reaching more with the ball lined up towards the toe side of center. I still hit the ball on the heel side of the club. Only one time after about 1/2 bucket of balls did I contact the face on the toe side, and only hit the sweet spot one time. How do I correct this problem so I can hit the sweet spot?
Heeling is over the top. This is means you are hitting with your arms. Check you are not too close. Then turn the arms off even more. This is a totally different feeling that you must get used to. Legs and hips NOT hands and arms.
Paul, Im having trouble with the hip turn. Think on the downswing Im turning too much, with hips not pointing down the line at finish,but way left, towards “third base.” Result is low left hook. Any drill to curb the direction of the hip turn? thanks, George Grossi
Yes, that would be too much. All you have to do is hit about 20 balls in a row flat footed on the back foot through and past impact. This will slow down the hips and feet. Once you do swing through then gently go to the follow through perpendicular with the hips and legs touching. I know everyone wants lots of power but you need to gradually build it up. Do lots of practice swings at home too in a mirror so you master the positions.
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25 Responses to “Power Leaks – Uncoil Ratio”
January 1, 2016
ThomasCrankI see that you are using a driver in your video. Does this drill and concept apply to all clubs in the bag? ( other than putter of course)
Thanks
January 2, 2016
Paul WilsonThomas,
Yes, all clubs. Everything I discuss is for all clubs unless I specifically mention it.
August 21, 2019
garygrieveHi Paul
I have been working on you drills, and am struggling with the uncoil of the upper body. I’m beginning to move my hips first and can rotate my shoulders to about 90 degrees. But when I begin to uncoil, I just can’t seem to uncoil without using my tight arms and tight wrists and usually end up pulling my arms closer to my body and not fully using my widest arc. Not sure what if anything more you can say about this movement or trigger, but if so I will appreciate it.
GaryGrieve
August 22, 2019
Paul WilsonGary,
Glad you are working on it.
Everyone struggles with the uncoil so you are not alone. The main thing people do wrong is try to do everything at top speed. These are new and different moves. If you have been hitting with the arms forever this feeling and thought it ingrained. So, why not hit shots at 2/3 distance? Get used to the new feeling of not hitting anything. Then power it up with the legs. This would be what I call making the switch. Turning the arms off is completely different. This means there are new feeling and thoughts that you need to get used to and good at.
The pulling the arms closer is you hitting. I did a tip on it here:
Chicken Wing Logic: https://ignitiongolf.com/chicken-wing-logic/
Do this:
It is a Letting Go Experience: https://ignitiongolf.com/letting-go-experience/
Wide Arc: https://ignitiongolf.com/wide-arc/
DRILL: Try To Hit Chair: https://ignitiongolf.com/try-to-hit-chair/
DRILL: Another Way To Widen The Arc: https://ignitiongolf.com/drill-widen-arc/
Also:
-DRILL: This Is The Best Drill You Should Be Doing Right Now: https://ignitiongolf.com/drill-three-quarter-distance/
January 1, 2016
JimMerwin12-31-15
Hi, Paul.
That is the best tip ever!!! I had never thought of “separation” as what separates the pros from the rest of us but I am sure you are right. And I agree with your analysis that kids who learn before they develop upper arm strength do it naturally while those of us who learned later have to work hard to unlearn our upper-body driven swing and that takes thousands of repetitions.
Brilliant insights. Thank you!!
Jim Merwin
January 2, 2016
Paul WilsonJim,
Glad you liked it. Thanks. Human nature is the real killer in the golf swing. Got to stay focused on the hips.
January 1, 2016
RaymondCHASTELPaul,I do this “up in the air ” drill with the four finned . POWER FAN .
Is it OK to do So ,or better with the Driver ortie Sand Wedge as you showed yesterday?
January 2, 2016
Paul WilsonRaymond,
Driver is best. It’s longer and creates more wind resistance so you can hear it. I used sand wedge to work on lag because I was just hitting short shots lagging it. You can use longer club to work on lag in practice swings if you want.
January 1, 2016
DukeDowneySame questions as above. Does this drill work for small clubs (pitching wedge) and the power fan?
January 2, 2016
Paul WilsonDuke,
I did lag drills with short clubs because I was just hitting short shots holding the lag angle. Working on separation you would do so with longer club if you are holding the club in the air. This way you can hear the club swinging. You drive the legs and hips harder to make the club sound faster as it swings. You can certainly work on everything with both short and longer clubs.
Power Fan is a training aid from years ago. It’s a grip with fan blades and you swing it. The bladed create resistance.
https://www.golftrainingaids.com/Power-Fan/productinfo/PSFN/
January 1, 2016
RYDGJRI’ve been working on “separation” for a while now and finally starting to see some positive results. I was guilty early on of doing your favorite drill correctly for a couple of swings and then lowering it to swing through a leaf or such. I did this because I knew I would have to be able to lower it on the course I guess. I know I need to get back to doing the drill correctly but was wondering if doing ten or twenty above the groung swings for every one lowered swing would be an acceptable approach.
January 2, 2016
Paul WilsonGary,
Glad you are doing it right now. It is vital you do it the way I suggest. Then you will take the “hit” out of your swing.
January 1, 2016
garrettvander veervery important tip but hard not to turn the shoulders with the hips.
January 2, 2016
Paul WilsonGarret,
That is why it separates pros from amateurs. Do the drill constantly holding the club in the air. Then you are not thinking hit and can feel the hips powering the swing.
January 1, 2016
michaelkonowitzI tend to pull the ball when I concentrate on attempting separation. ????
January 2, 2016
Paul WilsonMichael,
There are tons of tips on curing a pull on the site both in the Dahsboard and on the original site.
Your body affects direction. Tilt left and you will hit it left. Tilt right and you will hit it right. You are hitting it left. This is because your body is tilting left in the downswing. When you try to get the lower body moving you are immediately shifting to the forward leg. I am not doing this. I fire the lower like hitting the accelerator on a car it throw my whole upper body back tilting it behind the ball in the downswing. So you need to be working on this tilt. Watch:
Body Tilt – Left Right: https://ignitiongolf.com/cure-pulling/
Cures – Manually Tilt To Stop Pulling: https://ignitiongolf.com/manually-tilt-cure-pull/
Pull: https://ignitiongolf.com/cure-pulled-shot/
Pull 2 (expanding on it): https://ignitiongolf.com/cure-pulling/
Stop Coming Over the Top: https://ignitiongolf.com/cure-stop-over-the-top/
Exactly How To Do Touch The Legs Position: https://ignitiongolf.com/how-to-touch-the-legs-position/
It’s a Turn Not A Jump: https://ignitiongolf.com/turn-not-jump/
January 1, 2016
MichaelShannonHappy New Year Paul! BTW,I’m living proof that your method works. Not to “blow my own horn” but to add further credence to your methods…..I started golfing for the first time 19 August 2012, joined your site 20 Sept 2012…….performed your “favourite drill” regularly (several times per week ever since I saw that tip)……finally got the “separation” thing and thus,flattening the swing plane, last summer. 2015 average score was 82.5 (71 rounds) Index 8.2. Just turned 55 yrs old in July. Thanx a ton!
January 2, 2016
Paul WilsonMichael,
Very good. Glad you stuck with the drill and glad you are improving. Love hearing it.
January 1, 2016
johnhoyleGreetings Coach I will look like the fool of the world with this question but what is the POWER FAN?
January 2, 2016
Paul WilsonJohn,
Power Fan is a training aid from years ago. It’s a grip with fan blades and you swing it. The blades create resistance.
https://www.golftrainingaids.com/Power-Fan/productinfo/PSFN/
June 28, 2017
DennisBenedictPaul,
I put an impact sticker on my driver to check contact. I hit 3 or 4 shots more than 1/2 inch off center towards the heal side of the club face. I then tried reaching more with the ball lined up towards the toe side of center. I still hit the ball on the heel side of the club. Only one time after about 1/2 bucket of balls did I contact the face on the toe side, and only hit the sweet spot one time. How do I correct this problem so I can hit the sweet spot?
June 29, 2017
Paul WilsonDennis,
Heeling is over the top. This is means you are hitting with your arms. Check you are not too close. Then turn the arms off even more. This is a totally different feeling that you must get used to. Legs and hips NOT hands and arms.
September 6, 2019
georgegrossiPaul, Im having trouble with the hip turn. Think on the downswing Im turning too much, with hips not pointing down the line at finish,but way left, towards “third base.” Result is low left hook. Any drill to curb the direction of the hip turn? thanks, George Grossi
September 16, 2019
Paul WilsonGeorge,
Yes, that would be too much. All you have to do is hit about 20 balls in a row flat footed on the back foot through and past impact. This will slow down the hips and feet. Once you do swing through then gently go to the follow through perpendicular with the hips and legs touching. I know everyone wants lots of power but you need to gradually build it up. Do lots of practice swings at home too in a mirror so you master the positions.
February 10, 2022
DonaldSchwassLove this tip, Paul