If you cannot get through a chip you are thinking of hitting the ball. You need to think behind the ball. Just think about chipping like putting. When you putt do you stop? I bet you don’t. So imagine the club you are chipping with is your putter. Do the setup as I suggest then putt. This way you will get through it.
Excellent recap of most of your teaching,Paul.This pupil of yours has put his finger just on the right spot .
Now you have to do it also when playing “for real “on the golf course ,not just at the practice range
The best way to check this is to observe each time your finish position and hold it a few seconds :are your touching your head ,are you touching your legs ,have you moved your weight onto your left leg ,are your hips past the target?
Hi Paul,
Can you do a video on punch shots with hybrids? Can I play this shot with a 4 hybrid (22 degrees)? Any adjustments to ball position, etc?
I find this shot to be very consistent and I like to play it from the tee and from fairway, light rough:)
Then you need to touch your neck. When you do you need to find a position you can repeat. This is one of the reasons for doing it. Do a different swing and you will get a different result. So find a consistent ending point.
Might want to watch these. Might be something there that will help you:
GREETINGS COACH You were correct,i was closing my stance.I made the stance adjustment and went to far to the left of the target and started to hit left. Today I adjusted a little more right with good results.There is not much room for error from closed ,open and square is there? THANKS COACH
Glad you saw it. You need to be square to know if you are hitting well or hitting it poorly. If you know you are hitting it poorly you can fix it.
There is not much room for error because 1 inch off in your stance is yards off in the distance. Need to put down the alignment stick every time you practice. If you always practice from square you will be square when you play.
In recent interviews Padraig Harrington has said that he tells golfers to work on one main thing: holding a balanced finish. He obviously means touching the legs and touching the head at the finish of the golf swing while holding it in balance. Sound familiar? Thanks for all your help, my golf swing has improved tremendously since joining this site and it’s nice to see that the best golfers in the world are doing the exact things that you are urging us to do.
Jason Day has generally always finished in the position you talk about but I’ve noticed recently the shaft is finishing lower, more at the level of his neck and too vertical. He can hardly hit a fairway at the moment – has been hooking his 3 wood.
I know he was in the position. I didn’t realize it was falling apart. I will look for it this weekend. Problem is, he has no clue about this position as I am the only one who knows and teaches it.
I greatly appreciate this tip and the golfer’s email. I have also have been guilty of not placing much emphasis on this position. I was thinking too hard about touching my knees and stopped there. I went to the range today with the only thought which was to get to the club to touch the head position.
After about an hour of practice, I was able to get to point B most of the time. My trigger and position 2 were my only swing thoughts. ( Before I got there I promised myself I would take 4 practice swings before each shot.) The improvement also came with emphasis on my trigger and proper movement of my core. My shots were straight , longer, and most of all I was consistently hitting good shots.
Thanks again for emphasizing this part of the sawing
Makes perfect sense. The best shots I hit is those where I master the follow through in perfect balance touching the head and actually being able to hold it. I need to pay more attention to this as my overall swing thought and block out the ball. Thanks!
Hi Paul,
Have been trying to fine tune my finishing position and rotation with a bit of experimenting…I’ll take a very slow practice swing to my finish position touch head touch knees. From there I focus on the feeling in my hands and elbows in the finish checking the parallel line to my eyes and also the perpendicular line to my alignment stick (with the club). I then slowly reverse out of it to a setup position, check my ball position, and make a swing. In these swings I feel more connected A to B and i hit the finish position I practiced. What I notice is that by doing so my grip and thus my arms are in a different position at the setup based on the position and feel i can find rehearsing the finish. Does this make sense? Any thoughts/ concerns? Thanks, Craig
No real concerns. This is like you are previewing the follow through which is great. I keep telling everyone this is the position to focus on. By doing this you will have it in your mind so you can replicate it.
Once you get it you need to feel something in the lower body triggering the swing. If you keep thinking upper not sure you will ever turn the arms off.
This website uses cookies to improve your experience. We'll assume you're ok with this, but you can opt-out if you wish. AcceptRejectRead More
Privacy & Cookies Policy
Privacy Overview
This website uses cookies to improve your experience while you navigate through the website. Out of these, the cookies that are categorized as necessary are stored on your browser as they are essential for the working of basic functionalities of the website. We also use third-party cookies that help us analyze and understand how you use this website. These cookies will be stored in your browser only with your consent. You also have the option to opt-out of these cookies. But opting out of some of these cookies may affect your browsing experience.
Necessary cookies are absolutely essential for the website to function properly. This category only includes cookies that ensures basic functionalities and security features of the website. These cookies do not store any personal information.
Any cookies that may not be particularly necessary for the website to function and is used specifically to collect user personal data via analytics, ads, other embedded contents are termed as non-necessary cookies. It is mandatory to procure user consent prior to running these cookies on your website.
29 Responses to “The Importance of Position 2”
July 10, 2016
ShaunRobinsonHi Paul
Some times I find myself touching the head with the rubber grip, what am I doing wrong when I am in this position?
July 11, 2016
Paul WilsonShaun,
Your wrists are too tight. Need to loosen them up so you re-hinge them. This will allow the shaft to touch.
Follow Through Mistakes – Club: https://ignitiongolf.com/follow-through-mistakes-club/
Trouble Hinging And Rehinging Wrists: https://ignitiongolf.com/trouble-hinging-rehinging/
July 11, 2016
HelenWinningI cannot chip always stop on the ball however when I practice it works for me but never when on the course
July 11, 2016
Paul WilsonHelen,
If you cannot get through a chip you are thinking of hitting the ball. You need to think behind the ball. Just think about chipping like putting. When you putt do you stop? I bet you don’t. So imagine the club you are chipping with is your putter. Do the setup as I suggest then putt. This way you will get through it.
-Chipping Technique: https://ignitiongolf.com/correct-chipping-technique/
-Ratios: https://ignitiongolf.com/ratio-dial-chipping/
July 11, 2016
RaymondCHASTELExcellent recap of most of your teaching,Paul.This pupil of yours has put his finger just on the right spot .
Now you have to do it also when playing “for real “on the golf course ,not just at the practice range
The best way to check this is to observe each time your finish position and hold it a few seconds :are your touching your head ,are you touching your legs ,have you moved your weight onto your left leg ,are your hips past the target?
July 11, 2016
Paul WilsonRaymond,
I tell people to hold it over and over again and still they don’t do it. Just thought this would explain the benefit of actually doing it.
July 11, 2016
StianOttersenHi Paul,
Can you do a video on punch shots with hybrids? Can I play this shot with a 4 hybrid (22 degrees)? Any adjustments to ball position, etc?
I find this shot to be very consistent and I like to play it from the tee and from fairway, light rough:)
July 11, 2016
drj0420I am sure he can, but what the hell does this have to do with “touching your head”?
July 11, 2016
Paul WilsonDr,
I get people to post questions under any tip. This way I get notified. Should really post them under the right ones but not a problem for me.
July 11, 2016
Paul WilsonStian,
I never do or have done this shot unless I was trying to keep it under a tree. If so just do the punch/knock down shot as I show here:
Knock Down Shot: https://ignitiongolf.com/shot-knock-down/
It should work just fine.
July 12, 2016
StianOttersenOk thanks. So even if its consistent and easy to hit and control I should only play this into wind/under a tree?
July 12, 2016
Paul WilsonStian,
Right. Or when you feel you need to hit the shot. I wouldn’t be doing it on every shot. Every see a tour player play this way?
July 11, 2016
robertshawHi
Is there a different position for the touch the head I am physically not able to turn there I do not have the range of motion
R Shaw
July 11, 2016
Paul WilsonRobert,
Then you need to touch your neck. When you do you need to find a position you can repeat. This is one of the reasons for doing it. Do a different swing and you will get a different result. So find a consistent ending point.
Might want to watch these. Might be something there that will help you:
Limited Shoulder Turn? Power Is No Problem: https://ignitiongolf.com/limited-shoulder-turn/
Increase Shoulder Turn (seam on shirt): https://ignitiongolf.com/increase-your-shoulder-turn
Limited Hip Turn? Power Is No Problem: https://ignitiongolf.com/limited-hip-turn/
July 12, 2016
johnhoyleGREETINGS COACH You were correct,i was closing my stance.I made the stance adjustment and went to far to the left of the target and started to hit left. Today I adjusted a little more right with good results.There is not much room for error from closed ,open and square is there? THANKS COACH
July 12, 2016
Paul WilsonJohn,
Glad you saw it. You need to be square to know if you are hitting well or hitting it poorly. If you know you are hitting it poorly you can fix it.
There is not much room for error because 1 inch off in your stance is yards off in the distance. Need to put down the alignment stick every time you practice. If you always practice from square you will be square when you play.
July 12, 2016
RichardMooreIn recent interviews Padraig Harrington has said that he tells golfers to work on one main thing: holding a balanced finish. He obviously means touching the legs and touching the head at the finish of the golf swing while holding it in balance. Sound familiar? Thanks for all your help, my golf swing has improved tremendously since joining this site and it’s nice to see that the best golfers in the world are doing the exact things that you are urging us to do.
July 12, 2016
Paul WilsonRichard,
Great thought. Pretty rare when anyone talks about the follow through. Good thing they aren’t all talking about it. If so, I may be out of a job.
July 12, 2016
Paul WilsonRichard,
Glad you have improved. I love hearing it.
July 15, 2016
BenJason Day has generally always finished in the position you talk about but I’ve noticed recently the shaft is finishing lower, more at the level of his neck and too vertical. He can hardly hit a fairway at the moment – has been hooking his 3 wood.
July 15, 2016
Paul WilsonBen,
I know he was in the position. I didn’t realize it was falling apart. I will look for it this weekend. Problem is, he has no clue about this position as I am the only one who knows and teaches it.
July 21, 2016
RoyPaul,
I greatly appreciate this tip and the golfer’s email. I have also have been guilty of not placing much emphasis on this position. I was thinking too hard about touching my knees and stopped there. I went to the range today with the only thought which was to get to the club to touch the head position.
After about an hour of practice, I was able to get to point B most of the time. My trigger and position 2 were my only swing thoughts. ( Before I got there I promised myself I would take 4 practice swings before each shot.) The improvement also came with emphasis on my trigger and proper movement of my core. My shots were straight , longer, and most of all I was consistently hitting good shots.
Thanks again for emphasizing this part of the sawing
Roy
July 22, 2016
Paul WilsonRoy,
Glad you saw this tip. Everything I teach is equally important. I keep saying it’s about building a great swing.
I like the practice swings before each shot. That is a great way to do it.
Keep working on it. As you do, the club will finish there every time.
March 6, 2018
StianOttersenMakes perfect sense. The best shots I hit is those where I master the follow through in perfect balance touching the head and actually being able to hold it. I need to pay more attention to this as my overall swing thought and block out the ball. Thanks!
March 6, 2018
Paul WilsonStian,
Yes. The follow through is the most important position. You cannot get there if you do it wrong at impact.
March 18, 2018
CraigSmithHi Paul,
Have been trying to fine tune my finishing position and rotation with a bit of experimenting…I’ll take a very slow practice swing to my finish position touch head touch knees. From there I focus on the feeling in my hands and elbows in the finish checking the parallel line to my eyes and also the perpendicular line to my alignment stick (with the club). I then slowly reverse out of it to a setup position, check my ball position, and make a swing. In these swings I feel more connected A to B and i hit the finish position I practiced. What I notice is that by doing so my grip and thus my arms are in a different position at the setup based on the position and feel i can find rehearsing the finish. Does this make sense? Any thoughts/ concerns? Thanks, Craig
March 18, 2018
Paul WilsonCraig,
No real concerns. This is like you are previewing the follow through which is great. I keep telling everyone this is the position to focus on. By doing this you will have it in your mind so you can replicate it.
September 19, 2018
josephMistrettacan you use the position 2 for your downswing trigger?
September 19, 2018
Paul WilsonJoseph,
It’s not really a trigger but you can get the legs touching doing this:
Alternate Way To Touch The Legs: https://ignitiongolf.com/touch-legs-alternate-way/
Once you get it you need to feel something in the lower body triggering the swing. If you keep thinking upper not sure you will ever turn the arms off.