Not sure on this one. This is the first I have every heard of it. This would be a personal issue. Not sure why this would be hurting as you are not hitting anything but if you have to do this to stop any pain then you may want to keep doing it. Just make sure you are not tightening your wrists. You need them loose to get the whipping action of the club.
Hi Paul. What about lag? There seems to be a fine line between lag and pulling. I am not using my arms but lately, I have been thinking about lag in my down swing. I noticed that you did not mention lag in this tip. Maybe I have been thinking too much about lag in my downswing and instead, I may be pulling my club down. About 2 months ago I started thinking of lag in my downswing with great results but lately
I have encountered directional problems. I wonder if this is the cause. Your thoughts please.
If you are working on positions you are feeling your arms. Once you get the positions you stop hitting or helping it in any way. For lag you work on lag specifically then you turn your arms off. Lag means something is trailing behind something else. This is your club trailing behind your body. If did nothing with the club and turned your body first the club would lag perfectly. You are not going to do this so you need to work specifically on lag.
My question is much the same as Gerry above. I’ve been working on your lag tips where there seems to be a definite feeling of the club dropping down to maintain the wrist hinge until you reach the back leg. There is then the whipping release of the club providing the power.
It seems a little tricky to concentrate on maintaining the wrist angle and also on firing your lower body first or maybe I’m over thinking this.
Every evening I’m out in the yard practicing the lag drill but presumably must not forget to turn the lower body also.
Your tips, by the way, have made me a much more consistent player with a much better and easy fluid swing.
Glad you like the tips and are improving. I love hearing it.
Here is the same answer I gave Gerry in case you didn’t see it:
If you are working on positions you are feeling your arms. Once you get the positions you stop hitting or helping it in any way. For lag you work on lag specifically then you turn your arms off. Lag means something is trailing behind something else. This is your club trailing behind your body. If did nothing with the club and turned your body first the club would lag perfectly. You are not going to do this so you need to work specifically on lag.
Paul ,Your method is excellent :I played 18 holes this morning ,concntraing on “POWERLESS ARMS ” and TURN YOUR BELLY BUTTON FIRST “.
It worked perfectly without any effort .
Question :in the swing ,would you say that the club is going from “steep “(in the backswing ) to “shallow “in the downswing ,and it’s better to have a steep backswing than a flat one
Most of the best swings of all time were 2 plane. You go up then fire the body and the plane flattens in the downswing. I do not like flat or one plane swings. Flat was Hogan but he was the exception. Nicklaus (2 plane) Tiger 2001-2003 (2 plane) and the list goes on. With a 2 plane you get power and consistency if done right. All long drivers are 2 plane not that you are going to be a long driver but if a flat swing hit it farther they would all be doing it. I have yet to see one doing a flat golf or one plane golf swing.
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8 Responses to “Opposite Series – Pull Club Down or Let Club Fall”
October 18, 2015
StanleycarneyMy shoulder seam to sometimes hyperextend with centrifical force if I don’t keep my back
rotator cuff muscles flexed is this ok
October 21, 2015
Paul WilsonStanley,
Not sure on this one. This is the first I have every heard of it. This would be a personal issue. Not sure why this would be hurting as you are not hitting anything but if you have to do this to stop any pain then you may want to keep doing it. Just make sure you are not tightening your wrists. You need them loose to get the whipping action of the club.
October 19, 2015
GerryCarriereHi Paul. What about lag? There seems to be a fine line between lag and pulling. I am not using my arms but lately, I have been thinking about lag in my down swing. I noticed that you did not mention lag in this tip. Maybe I have been thinking too much about lag in my downswing and instead, I may be pulling my club down. About 2 months ago I started thinking of lag in my downswing with great results but lately
I have encountered directional problems. I wonder if this is the cause. Your thoughts please.
October 21, 2015
Paul WilsonGerry,
If you are working on positions you are feeling your arms. Once you get the positions you stop hitting or helping it in any way. For lag you work on lag specifically then you turn your arms off. Lag means something is trailing behind something else. This is your club trailing behind your body. If did nothing with the club and turned your body first the club would lag perfectly. You are not going to do this so you need to work specifically on lag.
Watch:
Does Turning Off Arms Create Lag? https://ignitiongolf.com/powerless-arms-create-lag/
How to Feel Lag: https://ignitiongolf.com/downswing-lag-1/
How To Feel Lag 2: https://ignitiongolf.com/lag-follow-up/
Lag Drill: https://ignitiongolf.com/drill-lag/
Lag Drill 2: https://ignitiongolf.com/drill-move-hips-hold-lag/
Lag And Release Drill: https://ignitiongolf.com/lag-release-drill
How Lag Affects Power: https://ignitiongolf.com/power-lag/
Old But Good Lag Drill: https://ignitiongolf.com/old-good-lag-drill/
Holding Your Lag Angle Too Long?: https://ignitiongolf.com/hold-lag-too-long/
Drill: Work On Lag Anywhere: https://ignitiongolf.com/work-on-lag-anywhere/
Drill: Hold Lag Turn Hips: https://ignitiongolf.com/drill-hold-lag-turn-hips/
DRILL: Lag Ear to Ear: https://ignitiongolf.com/lag-release-drill
October 19, 2015
daviddonaldsonMy question is much the same as Gerry above. I’ve been working on your lag tips where there seems to be a definite feeling of the club dropping down to maintain the wrist hinge until you reach the back leg. There is then the whipping release of the club providing the power.
It seems a little tricky to concentrate on maintaining the wrist angle and also on firing your lower body first or maybe I’m over thinking this.
Every evening I’m out in the yard practicing the lag drill but presumably must not forget to turn the lower body also.
Your tips, by the way, have made me a much more consistent player with a much better and easy fluid swing.
October 21, 2015
Paul WilsonDavid,
Glad you like the tips and are improving. I love hearing it.
Here is the same answer I gave Gerry in case you didn’t see it:
If you are working on positions you are feeling your arms. Once you get the positions you stop hitting or helping it in any way. For lag you work on lag specifically then you turn your arms off. Lag means something is trailing behind something else. This is your club trailing behind your body. If did nothing with the club and turned your body first the club would lag perfectly. You are not going to do this so you need to work specifically on lag.
Watch:
Does Turning Off Arms Create Lag? https://ignitiongolf.com/powerless-arms-create-lag/
How to Feel Lag: https://ignitiongolf.com/downswing-lag-1/
How To Feel Lag 2: https://ignitiongolf.com/lag-follow-up/
Lag Drill: https://ignitiongolf.com/drill-lag/
Lag Drill 2: https://ignitiongolf.com/drill-move-hips-hold-lag/
Lag And Release Drill: https://ignitiongolf.com/lag-release-drill
How Lag Affects Power: https://ignitiongolf.com/power-lag/
Old But Good Lag Drill: https://ignitiongolf.com/old-good-lag-drill/
Holding Your Lag Angle Too Long?: https://ignitiongolf.com/hold-lag-too-long/
Drill: Work On Lag Anywhere: https://ignitiongolf.com/work-on-lag-anywhere/
Drill: Hold Lag Turn Hips: https://ignitiongolf.com/drill-hold-lag-turn-hips/
DRILL: Lag Ear to Ear: https://ignitiongolf.com/lag-release-drill
October 19, 2015
RaymondCHASTELPaul ,Your method is excellent :I played 18 holes this morning ,concntraing on “POWERLESS ARMS ” and TURN YOUR BELLY BUTTON FIRST “.
It worked perfectly without any effort .
Question :in the swing ,would you say that the club is going from “steep “(in the backswing ) to “shallow “in the downswing ,and it’s better to have a steep backswing than a flat one
October 21, 2015
Paul WilsonRaymond,
Most of the best swings of all time were 2 plane. You go up then fire the body and the plane flattens in the downswing. I do not like flat or one plane swings. Flat was Hogan but he was the exception. Nicklaus (2 plane) Tiger 2001-2003 (2 plane) and the list goes on. With a 2 plane you get power and consistency if done right. All long drivers are 2 plane not that you are going to be a long driver but if a flat swing hit it farther they would all be doing it. I have yet to see one doing a flat golf or one plane golf swing.