Great stuff to review as I crawl back into the saddle post procedure.
Question as I digest this eve… Does turning the hips too much also cause the club to cross plane at top? As I look at lots of my own vids, it is the biggest issue I see when I look at down the line view, but I think could be related (?). I’ve already been working on not taking the club to inside at takeaway which has helped a ton, but I still do cross at the top from time to time and I know I tend to let the lower rotate too much (prob due to previous back issues),
Just look at the back of the ball as you hit the ball. This is how I got it many years ago. Once you have the backwards tilt stop looking at the back of the ball.
Quite an interesting collection of various backswings ,with the main faults exposed .Except for one of the proponents ,the hands were low at the top (None of the JACK NICKLAUS high hands in the backswing )
I think it was LEE TREVINO who said “You don’t hit the ball with your backswing “,so while it’s important to have a good starting postion at the top ,going properly in the downswing and throughswing is much more important,and how you accelerate doing so
You will be showing that for sure !
The third guy in the green shirt looks like he’s looking at a spot about three feet BEHIND the ball. Don’t know if it’s just the angle of the video, but head position looks terrible.
Paul,
thanks for your analysis. Now I know what must be done to correct the flaws that you’ve pointed out. Which are: Right knee flex and facing forward, and avoiding rolling the right foot. Less shoulder tilt, more upright by keeping chin up so less shoulder and right arm exposed.
Paul ,What you see of yourself in a video of your swing is generally at odds with your own feeling of your swing.You feel yourself swinging like RORY Mc ILROY and you see yourself swinging with an ugly ,short,tight and contrived swing .What should you do about it?
You need to understand why you look like that. It is because you are hitting solely with the arms and minimal body. So you understand how the golf swing even works. You slow down. Learn how to use the body. Then use the body as the power source not your arms. I can tell people all I want to not hit and usually this does wonders but to take it to a whole new level they need to learn how to use the body. This is the opposite to what they have done from the first ball they every hit (unless they started as a kid with minimal arm strength).
Hi Paul,
After all these years following your teaching, I understand full well that the arms need to be as relaxed as possible during the downswing, impact and follow through. Question : does the left arm need to be relaxed also at the top of the backswing? I am asking this because with the coil my left arm is tightening too at the top. My muscles (biceps, triceps…) are definitely contracting when I reach the top (although the left arm is not straight either so not “locked”). Is this an issue? I was thinking that maybe this tension could be the cause of using my arms a little on the downswing (and loss of lag). Should the feeling be tight torso but with relaxed arms ? If so, not easy to achieve… Thanks.
Raoul
You look great now going back. You would have the left arm exteded but not locked. Powerless arms and you not trying to hit or help it in any way in the downswing. So yes, you need to set the position at the top. If you keep the turned off completely I think you would have floppy arms which is totally different to powerless arms.
You nee to extend but not locked. Not sure I feel the bicep. Some tricep to extend the arm but that’s it. If you are tight you will use the arms. So maybe try relaxing it a little but don’t collapse. By now it should be going up there on its own.
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18 Responses to “Member Backswing Analysis – Part 1”
December 20, 2017
KimBozikPaul,
Great stuff to review as I crawl back into the saddle post procedure.
Question as I digest this eve… Does turning the hips too much also cause the club to cross plane at top? As I look at lots of my own vids, it is the biggest issue I see when I look at down the line view, but I think could be related (?). I’ve already been working on not taking the club to inside at takeaway which has helped a ton, but I still do cross at the top from time to time and I know I tend to let the lower rotate too much (prob due to previous back issues),
Thanks,
Kim
December 21, 2017
Paul WilsonKim,
No. Turning the body while shifting the weight immediately to the forward leg will definitely send you over the top.
Still Coming Over The Top – Shifting Too Soon: https://ignitiongolf.com/shifting-too-soon-forward-leg/
Just look at the back of the ball as you hit the ball. This is how I got it many years ago. Once you have the backwards tilt stop looking at the back of the ball.
Watch Back of The Golf Ball: https://ignitiongolf.com/watch-backside-golf-ball/
December 21, 2017
RaymondCHASTELQuite an interesting collection of various backswings ,with the main faults exposed .Except for one of the proponents ,the hands were low at the top (None of the JACK NICKLAUS high hands in the backswing )
I think it was LEE TREVINO who said “You don’t hit the ball with your backswing “,so while it’s important to have a good starting postion at the top ,going properly in the downswing and throughswing is much more important,and how you accelerate doing so
You will be showing that for sure !
December 21, 2017
Paul WilsonRaymond,
Yes, way too many swings way too short. Too long is an issue too. I think they were holding the position too long and the swing was backswing off.
December 21, 2017
DavidJarrettThe third guy in the green shirt looks like he’s looking at a spot about three feet BEHIND the ball. Don’t know if it’s just the angle of the video, but head position looks terrible.
December 21, 2017
Paul WilsonDavid,
Yeah, not sure. Need be to looking at the ball.
December 21, 2017
AlfonsoWongPaul,
thanks for your analysis. Now I know what must be done to correct the flaws that you’ve pointed out. Which are: Right knee flex and facing forward, and avoiding rolling the right foot. Less shoulder tilt, more upright by keeping chin up so less shoulder and right arm exposed.
Thanks again…
December 21, 2017
Paul WilsonAlfonso,
Glad you saw the analysis. Little work to do but you can get it.
December 22, 2017
RaymondCHASTELPaul ,What you see of yourself in a video of your swing is generally at odds with your own feeling of your swing.You feel yourself swinging like RORY Mc ILROY and you see yourself swinging with an ugly ,short,tight and contrived swing .What should you do about it?
December 22, 2017
Paul WilsonRaymond,
You need to understand why you look like that. It is because you are hitting solely with the arms and minimal body. So you understand how the golf swing even works. You slow down. Learn how to use the body. Then use the body as the power source not your arms. I can tell people all I want to not hit and usually this does wonders but to take it to a whole new level they need to learn how to use the body. This is the opposite to what they have done from the first ball they every hit (unless they started as a kid with minimal arm strength).
December 22, 2017
AllanLeurquinPaul thanks for the analysis. I noticed a lot of short backswings but snapping a picture at the top was a challenge. Thanks again
December 22, 2017
Paul WilsonAllan,
Yes, that is what I thought some were doing. Holding it take serious effort.
December 26, 2017
GregoryRigbyThank you Paul
December 27, 2017
Raoul BintnerHi Paul,
After all these years following your teaching, I understand full well that the arms need to be as relaxed as possible during the downswing, impact and follow through. Question : does the left arm need to be relaxed also at the top of the backswing? I am asking this because with the coil my left arm is tightening too at the top. My muscles (biceps, triceps…) are definitely contracting when I reach the top (although the left arm is not straight either so not “locked”). Is this an issue? I was thinking that maybe this tension could be the cause of using my arms a little on the downswing (and loss of lag). Should the feeling be tight torso but with relaxed arms ? If so, not easy to achieve… Thanks.
Raoul
December 27, 2017
Paul WilsonRauol,
You look great now going back. You would have the left arm exteded but not locked. Powerless arms and you not trying to hit or help it in any way in the downswing. So yes, you need to set the position at the top. If you keep the turned off completely I think you would have floppy arms which is totally different to powerless arms.
Powerless Arms vs Floppy Arms: https://ignitiongolf.com/powerless-arms-vs-floppy-arms/
But you don’t want this either:
Extended But Not Locked: https://ignitiongolf.com/extended-but-not-locked/
December 27, 2017
Paul WilsonRauol,
You nee to extend but not locked. Not sure I feel the bicep. Some tricep to extend the arm but that’s it. If you are tight you will use the arms. So maybe try relaxing it a little but don’t collapse. By now it should be going up there on its own.
December 28, 2017
Raoul BintnerThanks Paul ! And thank you also for the analysis, I sent it just in time… Glad to see that there is only one issue to deal with !
December 28, 2017
Paul WilsonRaoul.
Yes, I really liked it this time. Let’s get this fixed then you are basically done.