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Paul Wilson is the creator of Swing Machine Golf and founder of Ignition Golf. Paul's golf swing technique is based on the Iron Byron swing machine.
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December 10, 2012
Great tip. I had the same story from Peter in a video lesson only he told me to keep my elbows closer together on the follow through but makes sense to do it also on the back swing.
Getting the feel of powerless arms and getting back to the ball pretty good, on the odd occasion I pull it but I guess that is the arms taking over, but slowly slowly!
December 11, 2012
Glad you liked it. This is very important in maintaining the width of the arc. Plus, it helps to keep them together throughout the swing. Keep at it.
Yes, the pull is the arms starting down first. Here are a couple of tips about it:
Pull 2: https://ignitiongolf.com/cure-pulling
July 25, 2013
Excellent explanation,Paul ,of why it is so important to keep THE elbows (Widen THE arc ) ,which is rather unnatural for most of us .
As for THE “brick “between THE elbows ,there’s a training aid which simulates THE “brick “,a bar which clipses on your upper forearms .I have it ,but I find it giving me an Akward feeling and I don’t use it any more !Looking into a mirror seems enough.
Any comments ?
July 26, 2013
Raymond, I have a device that holds the elbows together. Works great with people. Just use it at home doing practice swings. Then it’s not as uncomfortable.
September 13, 2014
I am still working on the set up. I pretty much have the grip down. Currently, I am working on my spine angle, keeping my head behind the ball, and turning the inside of my elbows outward. After incorporating the change of elbow position, I am either hitting fat shots or skulling the ball. The one noticeable change is the increase in my swing arc and I can see my swing path after the ball is much more aligned as opposed to being outside-in or inside-out. I thought after getting used to my new elbow position, I will work on getting better contact with the ball. Anyway when I do hit the ball with my 7-iron, the ball only goes about 100yds and the loft is huge. It is like I hit it with my 9-iron or pitching wedge. Can you give my some feedback on what is happening? Also, can you give my some advise on not hitting fat or thin shots with my new elbow position?
September 14, 2014
Fat shots are happening because the arc is wider and you are not used to it:
Love Fat Shots: https://ignitiongolf.com/love-fat-shots/
Topped shots are happening because this is new and you are trying to see what affect this changes is going to have on your swing instead of not caring about what is happening to the ball and just getting used to the new position. If you are changing forget the ball. It means nothing without all of the pieces. Think about it. If you hit the ball well now and you change again you will be hitting it poorly again. So why think about the ball? It means nothing at this point. Just tee it up to make it easier. Do lots of practice swings even when you are at the range. It is about mastering the new “thing.” Repeat the new thing and you will master it quickly then move on to the next “thing.”
The high shots are telling you that you have a chicken wing through impact. In doing so the grip falls behind the head thus adding loft to the club. I get the feeling you are still in that beginner category so you really have to be working on the positions right now. If it were me I would be hitting very few actual golf balls and doing tons of practice swings working on perfect movement/positions. The faster you think like this the faster you will develop a great swing. A great swing hits great shots. Think the other way (hitting great shots without the great swing) and you will never get it.
This is all you need to be working on right now:
Here they are:
Left Hand: https://ignitiongolf.com/left-hand-grip
Right Hand: https://ignitiongolf.com/right-hand-grip
Set Up Steps: https://ignitiongolf.com/setup-position
Legs Touching: https://ignitiongolf.com/touch-knees
One Of The Secrets To The Golf Swing: https://ignitiongolf.com/secrets-to-golf-swing/
Spine Angle Follow Through: https://ignitiongolf.com/follow-through-eyes-tilted
February 27, 2018
Hi Paul, I’ve been using an impact ball – a soft volleyball sized ball with cut outs for the arms- to help with this. It also really seems to help with powerless arms. Even though my swing is or “feels” shorter it allows your loose wrists to provide all the power. Have you seen or tried the impact ball ? Is there a better aid you recommend for this?
Interesting. I have looked into things that wrap around your arms before. I have a couple of them here. They are goo if the person uses them daily and gets used to the elbows being that close (which they should be). Just don’t get too flat a backswing using it.
September 30, 2018
Thanks for the link Paul,
This is just the information I need, Being a senior golfer and not so flexible the backswing with elbows together is a challenge. I see what I need to do now in greater detail. Many thanks!
Yes, this also depends how big you are. I get slender people out for lessons and they can keep them more together. For me to do it is tough if not impossible. So I do what I can. Just so long as they are not separating (get wider) on the swing starts and you are not doing a chicken wing through impact then you should be fine.
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