When you begin to elevate your lead arm does the shoulder turn continue or that is after your full shoulder turn great tip never realized the importance of this thanks
This tip helps me better understand what Jimmy Ballard teaches about connection. He says in one of his videos that you have to be up to hit down. Your tip helps me better understand when to go up after the connection part.
Thanks for another great tip.These simple tips all add up to improving the overall swing.
I look forward to more tips about how to keep the arms straight in the follow-through.
Best wishes,
Ian.
Glad you liked it. I added to it in tonight’s tip. I do have on coming on full extension in the through swing. I fixed a student in a few minutes and I will show you how I did it in the tip.
Excellent lesson again ,Paul :you’re covering a major issue .For me,but am I right ,you have to push the right arm up to achieive the correct motion ,while still turning the left shoulder back ,the body axis (from big left toe to left shoulder )remaining unchanged while doing so
From trying in back yard, it would seem that my arms are much more relaxed lifting consciously, and are not all locked and stiff, which is the feeling I have experienced at the top
What would happen if you lifted the club too early?
THANK YOU! For 2 days I have been posting in your daily tips about how my backswing is so flat causing me to hit the back wall of golf simulator booths and have poor and inconsistent contact with the ball and no distance even though my arms are powerless and wrists are loose. Now I know what to work on- not sure if you saw my previous posts and that’s why you posted this, either way, great timing as far as I’m concerned! Thanks Paul, I’m well on my way to breaking 90, hoping to shoot in the eighties consistently by the end of the season…
I see all questions. Our plug in to email everyone was not working. I have installed a new one so you should get my replies. Breaking 90 is very doable. You just need to be close to my positions. As you make them even more precise you will get to low 80’s in no time. Just keep doing the practice swings at home daily. This is the fastest way to get it. Do not hit a lot of balls (even in the simulator). This is hitting. I need you to perfect the movement. A great swing hits great shots. If you are beating balls you will not make the changes. So take a break from the balls for a while. Make the changes then add the balls. You’ll see.
Paul,
This tip worked a “miracle” for me. It opened my eyes (again) to check the fundamentals over and over in a routine setup.
Through checking how my arm “rides up” I discovered “in a mirror” that my arms were kind of “flat.” Really flat!
I practiced the position of the Top of the Backswing (again) without hitting balls, and then hit some 7 irons. I noticed how TIGHT this more upright position made me. (You know how I have struggled with feeling torque.) I could FEEL tremendous torque. And, a bonus, my top of the swing position looked like yours, a square, fully cocked face.
I also noticed that my ball flight is higher with irons and with driver. This is a much more vertical swing feeling for me. Really much more even though the change looks small.
Now I just WIND UP and “let her rip.” I don’t even think about the downswing. It just happens.
Can you comment on flat swing vs. vertical swing as far as ball flight.
When you begin to elevate your lead arm does the shoulder turn continue or that is after your full shoulder turn great tip never realized the importance of this thanks
Hi Paul, this is Ray. I have been trying to do lead arm ride up for the last two months and I have been pushing or slicing my shots consistently….. In order for me to shoot straight or draw I had to have a flatter swing plane (lead arm right at right shoulder). I am kinda frustrated because my shots either push right or hook left…. I just want to shoot straight.
If you are slicing the face is open. I would also think you are trying to lift it up then leaning left into the downswing so you are sending it over the top. Once you the club is up (not too up though) you are then uncoiling. In doing so the body would move first and the arms would follow. If so, the club would flatten in the downswing.
Don’t see the hook as a bad thing. This is you releasing the club. This is the feeling you have to memorize. Once you do your thought would move to the body starting the swing. If the body starts first and you do this release you would hit it dead straight. I could get you doing this in minutes. The problem is you see the hook as a bad shot.
Hey Paul, while practicing this today on the range, I also really focused on touch the legs in an exaggerated way and was getting Great separation . With this separation I all of a sudden felt my left arm connected to my peck and as my shoulders unwound my left arm lagged with great leverage and I hit the ball much further effortlessly. I’m thinking I didn’t really understand what lag meant . I only thought of getting the V in the wrists but this created a leverage feeling of the whole arm across the chest as my upper body unwound with what seem like a lot of potential power. Am I getting off track? It was the best feeling I’ve had in a while for power. In other words keeping that left arm connected to the peck through impact. Would appreciate your thoughts on this I’m going to be playing in a member guest this weekend.
This is perfect. Now, if you fire the lower even harder your body would get too far ahead of the arms and you would be blowing it right. At this point you would either hook a few first then try again or slow down. So watch for this.
Also I revisited your lessons on how to pitch and how to chip and was immediately able to do it with ease. I’ve had probably 15 different instructors over 30 years try to teach me to chip and pitch the ball and you’re the only one who’s ever been able to get me to do it . Thanks again! B
This is a very important part of the game. Glad you got it. I keep telling people I can get them hitting great chips and pitches in minutes. They just have to follow it. You now know I am not joking. Do a little practice so you can win on the weekend.
Paul ,What about the left arm in the throughswing ?
Should the upper left arm reconnect with the left pectoral ,the core and the left pectoral then “pushing ” the upper left arm to generate more power ?
Your left arm will be connected through and past impact to almost half through where it starts to fold. So pressure into the through swing I am not really seeing it. You need the connection in the down and through swing.
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30 Responses to “Lead Arm Rides Up”
June 17, 2018
RoyWhen you begin to elevate your lead arm does the shoulder turn continue or that is after your full shoulder turn great tip never realized the importance of this thanks
Roy
June 17, 2018
pwgolfprotest 3
June 17, 2018
Paul Wilsontest 3 reply
June 17, 2018
KimberlyHagenbachThis tip helps me better understand what Jimmy Ballard teaches about connection. He says in one of his videos that you have to be up to hit down. Your tip helps me better understand when to go up after the connection part.
June 19, 2018
Paul WilsonKimberly,
Very good. Jimmy Ballard is a great teacher. I still need to dig out his book. It’s around here somewhere.
June 17, 2018
IanBernadtHi Paul,
Thanks for another great tip.These simple tips all add up to improving the overall swing.
I look forward to more tips about how to keep the arms straight in the follow-through.
Best wishes,
Ian.
June 19, 2018
Paul WilsonIan,
Glad you liked it. I added to it in tonight’s tip. I do have on coming on full extension in the through swing. I fixed a student in a few minutes and I will show you how I did it in the tip.
June 18, 2018
RaymondCHASTELExcellent lesson again ,Paul :you’re covering a major issue .For me,but am I right ,you have to push the right arm up to achieive the correct motion ,while still turning the left shoulder back ,the body axis (from big left toe to left shoulder )remaining unchanged while doing so
June 19, 2018
Paul WilsonRaymond,
Glad you liked it. Thanks.
I add to it in tonight’s tip. That may help too.
June 19, 2018
AntonyFieldsHi, Paul
An interesting piece.
From trying in back yard, it would seem that my arms are much more relaxed lifting consciously, and are not all locked and stiff, which is the feeling I have experienced at the top
What would happen if you lifted the club too early?
Thanks.
Tony
June 19, 2018
Paul WilsonTony,
Glad you are feeling the position. If you lifted too early you would lay it off or disconnect. So lift on from 3/4 back.
June 19, 2018
AntonyFieldsPaul….I mean the lead arm!
June 19, 2018
KevinMcKinneyTHANK YOU! For 2 days I have been posting in your daily tips about how my backswing is so flat causing me to hit the back wall of golf simulator booths and have poor and inconsistent contact with the ball and no distance even though my arms are powerless and wrists are loose. Now I know what to work on- not sure if you saw my previous posts and that’s why you posted this, either way, great timing as far as I’m concerned! Thanks Paul, I’m well on my way to breaking 90, hoping to shoot in the eighties consistently by the end of the season…
June 19, 2018
Paul WilsonKevin,
I see all questions. Our plug in to email everyone was not working. I have installed a new one so you should get my replies. Breaking 90 is very doable. You just need to be close to my positions. As you make them even more precise you will get to low 80’s in no time. Just keep doing the practice swings at home daily. This is the fastest way to get it. Do not hit a lot of balls (even in the simulator). This is hitting. I need you to perfect the movement. A great swing hits great shots. If you are beating balls you will not make the changes. So take a break from the balls for a while. Make the changes then add the balls. You’ll see.
June 19, 2018
GaryDuplockI would image that pertains to the driver as well, great explanation and tip, thanks..
June 19, 2018
Paul WilsonGary,
You only have 1 swing. It changes on its own due to the length of the club.
June 19, 2018
pastorjohnbutcherPaul,
This tip worked a “miracle” for me. It opened my eyes (again) to check the fundamentals over and over in a routine setup.
Through checking how my arm “rides up” I discovered “in a mirror” that my arms were kind of “flat.” Really flat!
I practiced the position of the Top of the Backswing (again) without hitting balls, and then hit some 7 irons. I noticed how TIGHT this more upright position made me. (You know how I have struggled with feeling torque.) I could FEEL tremendous torque. And, a bonus, my top of the swing position looked like yours, a square, fully cocked face.
I also noticed that my ball flight is higher with irons and with driver. This is a much more vertical swing feeling for me. Really much more even though the change looks small.
Now I just WIND UP and “let her rip.” I don’t even think about the downswing. It just happens.
Can you comment on flat swing vs. vertical swing as far as ball flight.
Thanks for this wonderful tip!
June 20, 2018
Paul WilsonJohn,
Glad you found it. I think this was the missing link. You should have sent me a video of your swing. I would have seen this years ago.
Keep going with this. If you have issues let me know.
June 19, 2018
RoyWhen you begin to elevate your lead arm does the shoulder turn continue or that is after your full shoulder turn great tip never realized the importance of this thanks
Roy
June 20, 2018
Paul WilsonRoy,
Yes you are still coiling as you go back. Glad you liked it. Thanks.
June 20, 2018
StianOttersenWhat are the typical problems being too flat and connected?
I need to work on this as I am too flat because Im trying to keep powerless arms.
June 20, 2018
Paul WilsonStian,
You would have no distance, blow it right because you are attacking too much from the inside. You may hit fat irons and drop kick the woods.
June 20, 2018
RayLiuHi Paul, this is Ray. I have been trying to do lead arm ride up for the last two months and I have been pushing or slicing my shots consistently….. In order for me to shoot straight or draw I had to have a flatter swing plane (lead arm right at right shoulder). I am kinda frustrated because my shots either push right or hook left…. I just want to shoot straight.
Thanks, Ray
June 20, 2018
Paul WilsonRay,
If you are slicing the face is open. I would also think you are trying to lift it up then leaning left into the downswing so you are sending it over the top. Once you the club is up (not too up though) you are then uncoiling. In doing so the body would move first and the arms would follow. If so, the club would flatten in the downswing.
2 Things Flatten the Plane: https://ignitiongolf.com/2-things-flatten-plane/
Don’t see the hook as a bad thing. This is you releasing the club. This is the feeling you have to memorize. Once you do your thought would move to the body starting the swing. If the body starts first and you do this release you would hit it dead straight. I could get you doing this in minutes. The problem is you see the hook as a bad shot.
Watch:
See The Good In Your Shots: https://ignitiongolf.com/see-good-in-the-shot/
See The Good In A Push or Push Fade: https://ignitiongolf.com/see-good-push-push-fade/
See The Good In A Pull and Pull Hook: https://ignitiongolf.com/see-good-pull-pull-hook/
March 4, 2019
BradleyDanylukHey Paul, while practicing this today on the range, I also really focused on touch the legs in an exaggerated way and was getting Great separation . With this separation I all of a sudden felt my left arm connected to my peck and as my shoulders unwound my left arm lagged with great leverage and I hit the ball much further effortlessly. I’m thinking I didn’t really understand what lag meant . I only thought of getting the V in the wrists but this created a leverage feeling of the whole arm across the chest as my upper body unwound with what seem like a lot of potential power. Am I getting off track? It was the best feeling I’ve had in a while for power. In other words keeping that left arm connected to the peck through impact. Would appreciate your thoughts on this I’m going to be playing in a member guest this weekend.
March 6, 2019
Paul WilsonBrad,
This is perfect. Now, if you fire the lower even harder your body would get too far ahead of the arms and you would be blowing it right. At this point you would either hook a few first then try again or slow down. So watch for this.
Depth of Swing Coming Down: https://ignitiongolf.com/downswing-depth-of-swing/
DRILL: Connection: https://ignitiongolf.com/drill-head-cover-armpit/
DRILL: Golf Swing Timing For More Distance: https://ignitiongolf.com/timing-more-distance/
Driving Hips Harder But Hook It First: https://ignitiongolf.com/driving-hips-hook-first/
March 4, 2019
BradleyDanylukAlso I revisited your lessons on how to pitch and how to chip and was immediately able to do it with ease. I’ve had probably 15 different instructors over 30 years try to teach me to chip and pitch the ball and you’re the only one who’s ever been able to get me to do it . Thanks again! B
March 6, 2019
Paul WilsonBrad,
This is a very important part of the game. Glad you got it. I keep telling people I can get them hitting great chips and pitches in minutes. They just have to follow it. You now know I am not joking. Do a little practice so you can win on the weekend.
March 10, 2019
RaymondCHASTELPaul ,What about the left arm in the throughswing ?
Should the upper left arm reconnect with the left pectoral ,the core and the left pectoral then “pushing ” the upper left arm to generate more power ?
March 11, 2019
Paul WilsonRaymond,
Your left arm will be connected through and past impact to almost half through where it starts to fold. So pressure into the through swing I am not really seeing it. You need the connection in the down and through swing.
Connection: https://ignitiongolf.com/drill-head-cover-armpit