In a previous lesson you suggested that we make sure to have our wrists loose, even practicing an early release during our practice swings. Is it possible to turn faster than your hands and arms can keep up, leaving the club face open for example?
I may be asking for too much but is it possible to create one of the tips of turning your hips in slow motion. I would like to see how much hip turn before your arms and shoulders.
If you can’t that’s ok.
This was extremely informative. I never realized the effort you put into the hip turn. You always made it look so easy. Should the speed of the hip turn be the same with woods and irons?
Glad you liked it. I have done this legs drive for many years so I do it appears smooth and easy. I thought this would give people more of what I am actually feeling.
You will naturally increase the leg drive as the clubs get longer. I did a tip on this here:
The harder you drive the legs the more tilt you get. Now, don’t go crazy hard with longer clubs. At this stage you should be just trying to get the feeling of using the legs as the power source.
Very important advice ,I’m not sure everybody understands how critical to hitting it far it is .
Just Watch RORY Mc ILROY hitting his three Wood 260 meters plus on holes 16 and 18 of the yesterday IRISH OPEN to win in the last three holes where hé was trailing the leader RUSSELL KNOX by one shot : hé won with a three stroke lead ! To acheive those marvelous long shots ,RORY had his legs and hips ” exploding ” forwards !
I find your tip of saying ” LEGS ” or ” HIPS ” when you near the top of your backswing very useful to ” explode ” with your legs .
I played m’y usual 18 holes this morning and m’y long shots were wonderful and straight with this method .
To get used to this move ,the ” SHUTLLE DRILL” shown br JEREMY KLINKHAMER is very good ,as well as walking with a rubber belt around your lower legs .
Right. It is an exploding sensation. Good description. As much as I tell people this they need a way to feel it. Jumping at least give them the sensation of using the legs. Hopefully they can translate it to their swing.
Hi Paul,
i have been getting better at using my legs. How i got the better feeling for this is by narrowing my stance a lot and dong your favorite drill. You may have already suggested this approach in one of your previous tips, so i don’t claim originality.
Here is a question for you: when you make your turn with your legs/hips, do you feel the muscles on the left side of your body are tight? i think it is right feeling, because if it weren’t so, then the torso would be disconnected from the legs and no power would be transmitted. For example sometimes you show us how you turn your legs and your torso remains relatively unchanged. i hope i have explained clearly what i am asking.
thanks,
ter
Be careful not to be too narrow. As you know, I don’t teach a wide stance. Wider the stance the harder it is to shift your weight.
As you go through to the follow through the muscles may be tight. I have done it for many years so I am not really thinking about it. Students who first turn all the way do feel a tightness. As they keep doing it it will start to loosen up.
Keep doing it and keep trying to master the touch the legs position.
This is a brilliant tip, Paul. Loved it. What a novel way to get people to experience the feeling of using their hips/legs in the golf swing.I found it really effective. Many thanks.
Glad you liked it. I was hearing crickets there for a while.
I thought it was a great way for people to feel the amount of effort. Hopefully everyone will jump and feel it too. I knew there was a way to convey what I was feeling out there. I finally found it.
Hi Paul,
To your point: i just narrow my stance to get the feeling of turning my hips to move the club with the “club off the ground” practice drill. When i go to hit a ball for real, my stance is as wide as you have taught. The tightness for me comes from pulling the club around with my legs, hips, and torso. i imagine myself like the little kid that you described that doesn’t have the strength in his arms but hits the ball by pulling the club around his body. Played 9 today and shot bogey golf, which is good for me, for now.
thanks
Okay that’s good. I just don’t want you too narrow.
Stay focused on positioning especially grip, setup and follow through. Right now you are at bogey golf. For a little more work on making the positions precise, you could easily get to low 80’s. Do lots of practice swings feeling the feedback of each position.
Thanks. I appreciate it. Lots more blue ribbon tips on the site. You will get to them.
Yes, I am putting tremendous leg action into it. It just doesn’t look like it. Every student it I test to see how much they are putting into it is not even close even after I tell them how much legs I am putting into it. I get them to hold my club as I do it so they can feel it (takes both hands to hold my club). Once they feel how much I put into it it dawns on them that they have to go way faster and had no idea I was driving the lower that fast. This is important because if you don’t know how much legs why would you put almost everything you’ve got into it.
Yes, your million(s) times of making this “leg drive” movement camouflages the actual physical effort your using. Thus, the importance of the “jump” tip video – it leaves nothing to one’s imagination of how much effort you’re applying to the legs. A perfect demonstration.
As we Marylander’s get through this brutal snow and cold, it leaves us no option except to use our time to practice your drills. Coupling your #1 drill with the leg drive effort displayed in the “jump” tip video, I’m thinking I find no time to “make an arm swing”, i.e., truly, the arms are just along for the ride!! We’ll see…
Hi Paul,
I recall your tip with Sandra Carlborg, The ladies’long drive champ, on 22nd of April, who showed us how she drives her legs and hips by powerfully pushing off with her back leg at the start of the swing.
I’m still working on lag and follow-through,but I have tried to increase “separation” using her example.
Cheers,
Ian.
I put a card on the screen to I can only see your legs. Helps a bit to focus on what you are doing. Your movement during your actual swing is a bit slower and smoother than your very explosive looking demo of moving the hips on their own.
I had a lesson today and my golf pro told me to keep my elbows together during the swing. I find this a bit unnatural and I don’t see your elbows that close as you swing back. Do you have any tips that focus on this aspect?
Jump great tip but running in set back leg then hard push off for turn v. Rollover. I am all over the place trying to dial in from Hook after Roll Over drill to too much leg drive push or worse. Feel like oil tanker taking 80 miles of over-steering to get straight. Any suggestions limit over-steering?.
The roll over drill is a drill. So you do this until you no longer put slice spin on your shots. Sounds like you are trying to do this as you fire the lower. So you roll roll roll. Watch your ball and stop it from slicing. At this point you have the spin. You do not have the direction. So you switch to thinking about fire the lower body as you feel the release. Do not fire too hard. Just make the switch and try using them. You hit a shot. You watch it. It should be less of a pull hook. You back up. You do practice swings off the ground feeling your legs. You hit another ball and watch it. Hopefully this time you fired them a little sooner and it is a slight pull or pull hook. You back up and try it again but even quicker. If the lower fires before the upper you will hit it dead straight.
Now, if you slice one you roll it about 5 times (to unlock your wrists) then you try again thinking of legs and hips.
If you blow it way right (push) you are driving the lower way too hard so slow down.
That is it. Not sure why everyone makes this more difficult than what it is. This takes my 5-10 mins to get the person hitting it perfectly dead straight. You are doing the roll over to eliminate slice spin. That is all. That is step 1. Get step 1 you can move to step 2 which is body and direction. It is that simple.
So try to remember this (maybe write it down) and give it another try.
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31 Responses to “How Much Legs”
May 23, 2016
LarryRobertsIn a previous lesson you suggested that we make sure to have our wrists loose, even practicing an early release during our practice swings. Is it possible to turn faster than your hands and arms can keep up, leaving the club face open for example?
May 23, 2016
Paul WilsonLarry,
You sure can. Watch this tip to clarify:
DRILL: Golf Swing Timing For More Distance: https://ignitiongolf.com/timing-more-distance/
May 23, 2016
AlanCranstonI may be asking for too much but is it possible to create one of the tips of turning your hips in slow motion. I would like to see how much hip turn before your arms and shoulders.
If you can’t that’s ok.
May 23, 2016
Paul WilsonAlan,
I already have it.
Watch:
Impact Hip Rotation (at camera): https://ignitiongolf.com/impact-hip-rotation/
May 23, 2016
RoyPaul,
This was extremely informative. I never realized the effort you put into the hip turn. You always made it look so easy. Should the speed of the hip turn be the same with woods and irons?
Roy
May 23, 2016
Paul WilsonRoy,
Glad you liked it. I have done this legs drive for many years so I do it appears smooth and easy. I thought this would give people more of what I am actually feeling.
You will naturally increase the leg drive as the clubs get longer. I did a tip on this here:
Impact Tilt With Different Clubs: https://ignitiongolf.com/impact-tilt-different-clubs/
The harder you drive the legs the more tilt you get. Now, don’t go crazy hard with longer clubs. At this stage you should be just trying to get the feeling of using the legs as the power source.
May 23, 2016
RaymondCHASTELVery important advice ,I’m not sure everybody understands how critical to hitting it far it is .
Just Watch RORY Mc ILROY hitting his three Wood 260 meters plus on holes 16 and 18 of the yesterday IRISH OPEN to win in the last three holes where hé was trailing the leader RUSSELL KNOX by one shot : hé won with a three stroke lead ! To acheive those marvelous long shots ,RORY had his legs and hips ” exploding ” forwards !
I find your tip of saying ” LEGS ” or ” HIPS ” when you near the top of your backswing very useful to ” explode ” with your legs .
I played m’y usual 18 holes this morning and m’y long shots were wonderful and straight with this method .
To get used to this move ,the ” SHUTLLE DRILL” shown br JEREMY KLINKHAMER is very good ,as well as walking with a rubber belt around your lower legs .
May 23, 2016
Paul WilsonRaymond,
Right. It is an exploding sensation. Good description. As much as I tell people this they need a way to feel it. Jumping at least give them the sensation of using the legs. Hopefully they can translate it to their swing.
May 23, 2016
terrybadgerHi Paul,
i have been getting better at using my legs. How i got the better feeling for this is by narrowing my stance a lot and dong your favorite drill. You may have already suggested this approach in one of your previous tips, so i don’t claim originality.
Here is a question for you: when you make your turn with your legs/hips, do you feel the muscles on the left side of your body are tight? i think it is right feeling, because if it weren’t so, then the torso would be disconnected from the legs and no power would be transmitted. For example sometimes you show us how you turn your legs and your torso remains relatively unchanged. i hope i have explained clearly what i am asking.
thanks,
ter
May 23, 2016
Paul WilsonTerry,
Be careful not to be too narrow. As you know, I don’t teach a wide stance. Wider the stance the harder it is to shift your weight.
As you go through to the follow through the muscles may be tight. I have done it for many years so I am not really thinking about it. Students who first turn all the way do feel a tightness. As they keep doing it it will start to loosen up.
Keep doing it and keep trying to master the touch the legs position.
May 23, 2016
BrianClaffeyThis is a brilliant tip, Paul. Loved it. What a novel way to get people to experience the feeling of using their hips/legs in the golf swing.I found it really effective. Many thanks.
May 23, 2016
Paul WilsonBrian,
Glad you liked it. I was hearing crickets there for a while.
I thought it was a great way for people to feel the amount of effort. Hopefully everyone will jump and feel it too. I knew there was a way to convey what I was feeling out there. I finally found it.
May 24, 2016
terrybadgerHi Paul,
To your point: i just narrow my stance to get the feeling of turning my hips to move the club with the “club off the ground” practice drill. When i go to hit a ball for real, my stance is as wide as you have taught. The tightness for me comes from pulling the club around with my legs, hips, and torso. i imagine myself like the little kid that you described that doesn’t have the strength in his arms but hits the ball by pulling the club around his body. Played 9 today and shot bogey golf, which is good for me, for now.
thanks
May 24, 2016
Paul WilsonTerry,
Okay that’s good. I just don’t want you too narrow.
Stay focused on positioning especially grip, setup and follow through. Right now you are at bogey golf. For a little more work on making the positions precise, you could easily get to low 80’s. Do lots of practice swings feeling the feedback of each position.
May 24, 2016
TomExcellent tip Paul!
May 24, 2016
Paul WilsonTom,
Glad you liked it. Thanks.
May 25, 2016
Jeremy Klinkhamertest
January 7, 2018
DanKueblerThis tip, Paul, really gets the “blue ribbon”. Great, easy to follow example of just how much “drive” you’re putting into the legs. Thanks!
January 7, 2018
Paul WilsonDan,
Thanks. I appreciate it. Lots more blue ribbon tips on the site. You will get to them.
Yes, I am putting tremendous leg action into it. It just doesn’t look like it. Every student it I test to see how much they are putting into it is not even close even after I tell them how much legs I am putting into it. I get them to hold my club as I do it so they can feel it (takes both hands to hold my club). Once they feel how much I put into it it dawns on them that they have to go way faster and had no idea I was driving the lower that fast. This is important because if you don’t know how much legs why would you put almost everything you’ve got into it.
January 8, 2018
DanKueblerYes, your million(s) times of making this “leg drive” movement camouflages the actual physical effort your using. Thus, the importance of the “jump” tip video – it leaves nothing to one’s imagination of how much effort you’re applying to the legs. A perfect demonstration.
As we Marylander’s get through this brutal snow and cold, it leaves us no option except to use our time to practice your drills. Coupling your #1 drill with the leg drive effort displayed in the “jump” tip video, I’m thinking I find no time to “make an arm swing”, i.e., truly, the arms are just along for the ride!! We’ll see…
January 8, 2018
Paul WilsonDan,
Very good. I think you get it.
January 8, 2018
DanKueblerThis tip should be on everyone’s favorites,’
January 9, 2018
Paul WilsonDan,
Yes, it should.
September 27, 2018
IanBernadtHi Paul,
I recall your tip with Sandra Carlborg, The ladies’long drive champ, on 22nd of April, who showed us how she drives her legs and hips by powerfully pushing off with her back leg at the start of the swing.
I’m still working on lag and follow-through,but I have tried to increase “separation” using her example.
Cheers,
Ian.
September 29, 2018
Paul WilsonIan,
Great. Separation is a big key. I have tips on hit here:
Up In The Air Drills – Separation: https://ignitiongolf.com/air-drills-separation/
Separation: https://ignitiongolf.com/separation/
Also:
DRILL: How To Really Increase Power: https://ignitiongolf.com/how-to-really-increase-power/
September 27, 2018
DerekSharpI put a card on the screen to I can only see your legs. Helps a bit to focus on what you are doing. Your movement during your actual swing is a bit slower and smoother than your very explosive looking demo of moving the hips on their own.
I had a lesson today and my golf pro told me to keep my elbows together during the swing. I find this a bit unnatural and I don’t see your elbows that close as you swing back. Do you have any tips that focus on this aspect?
September 29, 2018
Paul WilsonDerek,
I am moving super hard when I hit the ball it just doesn’t look like it. Yes, I can do it faster when I’m not hitting anything.
The elbows need to somewhat close. I don’t force them though.
Watch:
Hold A Brick: https://ignitiongolf.com/hold-brick-elbows/
Gap In Elbows: https://ignitiongolf.com/maintain-gap-elbows-wider-arc
September 28, 2018
GLENNWISSEGreat tip. I have to work on this more and more.
September 29, 2018
Paul WilsonGlenn,
You sure do. Everyone wants more distance yet few do the work to get it. This gives you the feel of how much I am using them.
December 21, 2018
StanleyBigosJump great tip but running in set back leg then hard push off for turn v. Rollover. I am all over the place trying to dial in from Hook after Roll Over drill to too much leg drive push or worse. Feel like oil tanker taking 80 miles of over-steering to get straight. Any suggestions limit over-steering?.
December 21, 2018
Paul WilsonStanley,
The roll over drill is a drill. So you do this until you no longer put slice spin on your shots. Sounds like you are trying to do this as you fire the lower. So you roll roll roll. Watch your ball and stop it from slicing. At this point you have the spin. You do not have the direction. So you switch to thinking about fire the lower body as you feel the release. Do not fire too hard. Just make the switch and try using them. You hit a shot. You watch it. It should be less of a pull hook. You back up. You do practice swings off the ground feeling your legs. You hit another ball and watch it. Hopefully this time you fired them a little sooner and it is a slight pull or pull hook. You back up and try it again but even quicker. If the lower fires before the upper you will hit it dead straight.
Now, if you slice one you roll it about 5 times (to unlock your wrists) then you try again thinking of legs and hips.
If you blow it way right (push) you are driving the lower way too hard so slow down.
That is it. Not sure why everyone makes this more difficult than what it is. This takes my 5-10 mins to get the person hitting it perfectly dead straight. You are doing the roll over to eliminate slice spin. That is all. That is step 1. Get step 1 you can move to step 2 which is body and direction. It is that simple.
So try to remember this (maybe write it down) and give it another try.
Watch this video here:
http://www.howtocureaslice.com/