You have already done the touch the legs position before if you have thrown a ball in your life. It is the same move. If you are not getting all the way around:
1. You are thinking of hitting and don’t care what happens after you hit the ball.
2. Too much weight on the back foot through and past impact.
3. Sliding
4. You do not know the position you are trying to get to.
Paul ,There should be some more explanations added by you to this otherwise excellent video on “IMPACT”
Th “largest part of the arc “should not be the same for the Irons (and Hybrids ),as for the Woods .For the Irons ,you take a substantial divot ,and the the deepest part of the divot is about 4 inchesin front of the ball,target Wise .With the woods(Fairway woods ) ,the clubhead “brushes “the turf and there is only a very shallow divot ,or no divot at all .How do you “control “the position of the lowest point of your arc ?
Even if you “touch your legs ) and finish with the clubshaft “parallel to your eyes “and “slightly inclined to the ground “,you have to control the position of the “Widest part of your arc “.
As I told you ,I have no problem with the irons and the Hybrids ,I take a reasonable divot and the ball flies straight .It starts to become more difficult with the 5 Wood ,and even more with the 3 Wood :the 3 wood (With me !!)has a low flight ,gets thinned when my timing gets off ,and worse gets topped when I don’t relax enough with the arms (“Powerless Arms “)
As I told you ,the only remedy I have found ,is to put a bird’s stray Feather 4 inches in front of the ball and try to send the hands towards the feather (Can’t be done in a competition of course ).Do you Have a better idea?
N.B.I never ,never slice ,even if the ball is thinned or topped it goes straight and far by Rolling ,so the damage is not that great !
You only have one widest arc regardless of what club you hit.
Taking any divot means the club is descending. If it is still descending it is not at the widest point of the arc.
You control the position of the bottom of the arc with your leg drive. In driving your legs your upper body hangs back. The more it hangs back the more the club is descending as it hits the ball.
Thin and topping is you coming out of it. Slow down. Hit it then watch for it.
Paul ,Do you mean That if I speed up more my hips (Touch your legs position ) and extend my Arms more ,my arc Will be steeper at impact point and I Will cure my thinning/Topping défect?,( 1)
Or is it the opposite :slow down the hip rotation (2)
I suppose (1) is the correct answer ,but I don’t understand why ?
If my head/top of the spine ,which is the center of rotation is “back “,the bottom of the Clubhead is further from,the ball ,leading to a “Top”!
Couldn’t you show how this works in a video with the FAIRWAY Woods ,please ?
Why would it be steeper? Your arc would be wider thus allowing the club to make better contact with the ball. Understand if you are hitting it thin or especially topping it your club is either hitting the ball higher up than where it started or you are narrowing your arc (making the club/arms shorter than the ones you started with).
You need the hips (axis) to get ahead of the arms in the downswing to allow the mass (club) to flatten. This is simple physics. Turn an axis and mass wil always want to swing at 90 degrees to it. You have to keep the arms (your connection to the axis powerless though) so they fully stretch out. If you tighten them you will in turn be moving and manipulating the mass.
I have already done the stop topping fairway woods tip. This is fact so watch it and learn it:
Paul ,I believe there has to be a bit more refinment to come in this otherwise excellent video on “IMPACT” Obiviously ,the “widest part of the arc” is not the same for the Irons(And Hybrids ) and for the Fairway woods .With the Irons ,ou take a substantial divot ,the deepest part of the divot
Glad you liked it. Thanks. Most people don’t realize the importance of the Follow Through. This is why I say this is the most important position in the swing.
I liked you telling us what the finish looks like with bad swings. It gives an idea what to be aware of when we have a bad shot. Just an idea for future video….Go over the different finish positions with the bad swings
Thanks
I actually laughed out loud twice during this video. The first time when you said “After 30 years they are still shooting 95, 105, 102. At some point you’d think they would get it.” The second time when you tried to hit the ball hard and the follow through ended with your club pointing at the sky. Boy, can I identify with that one! The last time I did that, the light went on when I noticed that the club finished pointing straight up and the ball went high and right. I immediately thought that I had better fix it. It is really coming along.
It is funny. I see this all the time. Until people realize they need to do the opposite of what they are currently doing they will just spin their wheels.
Funny how people finally get the concept then they want perfect instantly. They are learning a whole new swing! It takes a little time.
You are trying to hit the woods way too hard. This is because you are thinking distance not positions. Forget the ball for a while and trying to hit it a long way. You are building a great swing. If you are not thinking like his you will never do it.
So when you play swing easy. Hit the shot no more than 50%. Yes, you will not be the hero for a while but you will be in the future. At a slow speed you don’t care about the ball and can focus on positions. Hit the shot. Hold it. Check it: Hit, Hold and Check: https://ignitiongolf.com/hold-check-follow-through/
Great tip. I like the feed back you give us regarding the flight of the ball and corrective action. Gives us something to think about when we lose our swing in the home stretch. New web site great improvement.
Glad you like the tip. Thanks for the feedback. I think I am getting through to people about the follow through being the most important position in the swing. Once people get this along with the grip and set up and they really will hit it better than they ever have in their lives.
Glad you like the site. Incredibly difficult to make this switch but worth it. Big thing coming soon so I need it to make the change. Keep your eyes peeled.
My practce swings produce a perfect follow through position. But when actually hiiting a ball my follow through is abbreviated which leads to solid but shorter results. My shaft never touches the back of my head when i actually hit a ball. My knees are touching and i am looking through tilted eyes. My mishit is usually a hook (clubface closes early), but that is getting better as i concentrate on turning better (no slide) and longer backswing. What should i be working on to get that shaft touching the head, a million practice swings isn’t getting it done.
You are not doing the touch the head position because you are trying to hit the ball plus you are trying to fight off a hook when you play. I have done numerous tips on this. Forget the ball. Work on a neutral grip. Then take the club and touch the back of your head when you play. If you have to swing at 1mph to do so then do so. It is about the positions NOT the ball. The harder you hit, the tighter you get the less it will split you ears. Go out late and night if you have to and just do the position. Carry numerous balls in your pocket and keep hitting them until you do it. Then do it again and again until you are good at it.
If you can do it in practice swings you can do it. If you cannot do it when you play you are NOT thinking of doing it. So change the way you think and stop trying to hit the ball. Take the club and physically touch your head not matter where it goes. It does not matter. What matter is if the club is touching your head or not.
I also think this video is really great. I have had it in my favorites for a long time now, but can’t bring myself to remove it. It is just such a good one to review when I don’t play like I should. I think the reason some folks quit the site is that they “think” that their swing is alreay pretty good and they are just looking for that quick & easy minor fix. I too kept trying to apply bandade fixes for many years with mixed results. Once I made up my mind to really follow your instruction completely, without trying to shortcut or change it to fit my own thinking, things really started to improve for me. I went back to the very basics with your instruction like I was just learning to play. I had always felt, for instance, that my grip was fine, but I found that it was in need of a little work also. Going back to square one was not an easy thing to do, but it is now starting to pay off and golf is fun again. I’m too old now to be great at this game, but I found the site in time to get quite a bit better and hit a lot more good shots than I ever did before. I think it is important to follow just one person’s instructions and not get caught up in trying to get info from way too many different sources. That has not worked very well for me in the past in any event.
Glad you liked the tips. The fundamentals are critical. Following 1 teacher is important too. Hopefully people follow me but even if they don’t they can’t be jumping around. Learning a good swing takes understanding and practice. As I keep saying just work on one thing at at time. Pretty soon you will have the whole swing.
I agree with John Hoyle above this is one of the greatest tips ever. You keep saying it over and over that if we hit the finish position everything will take care of itself. This lesson really brings your teaching philosophy together.
As a lifetime slider and arms swinger I always tried to steer and manipulate the ball with my hands and arms with nothing but disastrous results. I just couldn’t let go. Now I know that in letting the club go wherever it wants to go it will automatically seek its own square position as is goes to its widest point. All I need to think about is hitting the finish position. The rest will take care of itself.
It amazes me thinking back whenever I have properly finished the swing as you teach I look up and the ball is on a laser line toward its target.
My two new and only swing thoughts: swing easy and hit the finish.
Perhaps this tip should be re-run.
My last thought: Why the **** is no one else teaching this stuff?
I say it and few listen yet they keep asking me how to fix impact.. It’s a never ending loop. Then the person finally tries one or two of the positions and they tell me it worked. Hitting the ball is a powerful force. People hit and do not think about doing the positions. This is why I want everyone to do nightly practice swings. No ball = no hit. Now the person can focus on the positions and build the swing.
No one I teaching it because I saw it over 27 years ago and they haven’t. I realized this about 2 months ago. I’ve only told a few people. This tip explains it. I just happened to see about 30 pros doing it in this position on the same page. Most teachers only watch one a time so they haven’t seen it. Plus they think impact is the most important position when that is the last thing you should be thinking about.
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29 Responses to “How To Fix Impact”
June 30, 2014
LouisBondPaul, I have trouble getting my hips all the way around. Any Ideas?
June 30, 2014
Paul WilsonLouis,
You have already done the touch the legs position before if you have thrown a ball in your life. It is the same move. If you are not getting all the way around:
1. You are thinking of hitting and don’t care what happens after you hit the ball.
2. Too much weight on the back foot through and past impact.
3. Sliding
4. You do not know the position you are trying to get to.
Watch:
It’s Like A Throwing Motion: https://ignitiongolf.com/like-throwing-motion/
And:
Exactly How To Do Touch The Legs Position: https://ignitiongolf.com/how-to-touch-the-legs-position/
Drill:
Lean On Club to Touch Legs: https://ignitiongolf.com/drill-lean-on-club
If you slide watch:
Slide: https://ignitiongolf.com/cure-slide
June 30, 2014
TIMADAMSPaul site looks good, video seems to be a better
June 30, 2014
Paul WilsonTim,
Thanks. It had to be done. The old one was too bloated with old code. This one is simple.
June 30, 2014
RaymondCHASTELPaul ,There should be some more explanations added by you to this otherwise excellent video on “IMPACT”
Th “largest part of the arc “should not be the same for the Irons (and Hybrids ),as for the Woods .For the Irons ,you take a substantial divot ,and the the deepest part of the divot is about 4 inchesin front of the ball,target Wise .With the woods(Fairway woods ) ,the clubhead “brushes “the turf and there is only a very shallow divot ,or no divot at all .How do you “control “the position of the lowest point of your arc ?
Even if you “touch your legs ) and finish with the clubshaft “parallel to your eyes “and “slightly inclined to the ground “,you have to control the position of the “Widest part of your arc “.
As I told you ,I have no problem with the irons and the Hybrids ,I take a reasonable divot and the ball flies straight .It starts to become more difficult with the 5 Wood ,and even more with the 3 Wood :the 3 wood (With me !!)has a low flight ,gets thinned when my timing gets off ,and worse gets topped when I don’t relax enough with the arms (“Powerless Arms “)
As I told you ,the only remedy I have found ,is to put a bird’s stray Feather 4 inches in front of the ball and try to send the hands towards the feather (Can’t be done in a competition of course ).Do you Have a better idea?
N.B.I never ,never slice ,even if the ball is thinned or topped it goes straight and far by Rolling ,so the damage is not that great !
July 1, 2014
Paul WilsonRaymond,
You only have one widest arc regardless of what club you hit.
Taking any divot means the club is descending. If it is still descending it is not at the widest point of the arc.
You control the position of the bottom of the arc with your leg drive. In driving your legs your upper body hangs back. The more it hangs back the more the club is descending as it hits the ball.
Thin and topping is you coming out of it. Slow down. Hit it then watch for it.
Arc:
Drill: Another Way To Widen The Arc: https://ignitiongolf.com/drill-widen-arc/
https://ignitiongolf.com/wide-arc/
July 1, 2014
RaymondCHASTELPaul ,Do you mean That if I speed up more my hips (Touch your legs position ) and extend my Arms more ,my arc Will be steeper at impact point and I Will cure my thinning/Topping défect?,( 1)
Or is it the opposite :slow down the hip rotation (2)
I suppose (1) is the correct answer ,but I don’t understand why ?
If my head/top of the spine ,which is the center of rotation is “back “,the bottom of the Clubhead is further from,the ball ,leading to a “Top”!
Couldn’t you show how this works in a video with the FAIRWAY Woods ,please ?
July 1, 2014
Paul WilsonRaymond,
Why would it be steeper? Your arc would be wider thus allowing the club to make better contact with the ball. Understand if you are hitting it thin or especially topping it your club is either hitting the ball higher up than where it started or you are narrowing your arc (making the club/arms shorter than the ones you started with).
You need the hips (axis) to get ahead of the arms in the downswing to allow the mass (club) to flatten. This is simple physics. Turn an axis and mass wil always want to swing at 90 degrees to it. You have to keep the arms (your connection to the axis powerless though) so they fully stretch out. If you tighten them you will in turn be moving and manipulating the mass.
I have already done the stop topping fairway woods tip. This is fact so watch it and learn it:
Stop Topping Your Fairway Woods: https://ignitiongolf.com/stop-topping-fairway-woods/
June 30, 2014
RaymondCHASTELPaul ,I believe there has to be a bit more refinment to come in this otherwise excellent video on “IMPACT” Obiviously ,the “widest part of the arc” is not the same for the Irons(And Hybrids ) and for the Fairway woods .With the Irons ,ou take a substantial divot ,the deepest part of the divot
June 30, 2014
johnhoyleGreetings Paul As for me one of your best tips ever Thanks
July 1, 2014
Paul WilsonJohn,
Glad you liked it. Thanks. Most people don’t realize the importance of the Follow Through. This is why I say this is the most important position in the swing.
June 30, 2014
BruceJespersenI liked you telling us what the finish looks like with bad swings. It gives an idea what to be aware of when we have a bad shot. Just an idea for future video….Go over the different finish positions with the bad swings
Thanks
July 1, 2014
Paul WilsonBruce,
Great idea. I will put this on the list. Thanks.
June 30, 2014
LenKoblenzHi Paul,
I actually laughed out loud twice during this video. The first time when you said “After 30 years they are still shooting 95, 105, 102. At some point you’d think they would get it.” The second time when you tried to hit the ball hard and the follow through ended with your club pointing at the sky. Boy, can I identify with that one! The last time I did that, the light went on when I noticed that the club finished pointing straight up and the ball went high and right. I immediately thought that I had better fix it. It is really coming along.
For me, this is one of the best tips ever.
Thanks once again,
Len
July 1, 2014
Paul WilsonLen,
It is funny. I see this all the time. Until people realize they need to do the opposite of what they are currently doing they will just spin their wheels.
Funny how people finally get the concept then they want perfect instantly. They are learning a whole new swing! It takes a little time.
Glad you liked the tip. Thanks.
June 30, 2014
JoeMaurinoI seen to be ok with the start of the swing I find doing the follow through With the irons it works ok but the trouble is with the woods any ideas?
Joe Maurino
July 1, 2014
Paul WilsonJoe,
You are trying to hit the woods way too hard. This is because you are thinking distance not positions. Forget the ball for a while and trying to hit it a long way. You are building a great swing. If you are not thinking like his you will never do it.
So when you play swing easy. Hit the shot no more than 50%. Yes, you will not be the hero for a while but you will be in the future. At a slow speed you don’t care about the ball and can focus on positions. Hit the shot. Hold it. Check it: Hit, Hold and Check: https://ignitiongolf.com/hold-check-follow-through/
Also:
DRILL: Do It Right at 1MPH https://ignitiongolf.com/right-at-1mph/
Here are some playing tips:
Playing Thoughts: https://ignitiongolf.com/playing-thoughts/
How To Take Your Swing From The Range To The Course: https://ignitiongolf.com/swing-range/
Taking Powerless Arms to the Course: https://ignitiongolf.com/powerless-arms-when-playing/
What To Think About When You Play: https://ignitiongolf.com/what-to-think-when-playing/
July 1, 2014
AndrewKeatonIs there forward shaft lean with the driver as well?
July 2, 2014
DumasPaul,
Great tip. I like the feed back you give us regarding the flight of the ball and corrective action. Gives us something to think about when we lose our swing in the home stretch. New web site great improvement.
July 2, 2014
Paul WilsonDumas,
Glad you like the tip. Thanks for the feedback. I think I am getting through to people about the follow through being the most important position in the swing. Once people get this along with the grip and set up and they really will hit it better than they ever have in their lives.
Glad you like the site. Incredibly difficult to make this switch but worth it. Big thing coming soon so I need it to make the change. Keep your eyes peeled.
July 5, 2014
SIMONCORRIGANgreat
cheap at half the price
you are the best
July 6, 2014
Paul WilsonSimon,
And people actually quit this site. Mind boggling to me why they would do this.
July 20, 2014
DrewMy practce swings produce a perfect follow through position. But when actually hiiting a ball my follow through is abbreviated which leads to solid but shorter results. My shaft never touches the back of my head when i actually hit a ball. My knees are touching and i am looking through tilted eyes. My mishit is usually a hook (clubface closes early), but that is getting better as i concentrate on turning better (no slide) and longer backswing. What should i be working on to get that shaft touching the head, a million practice swings isn’t getting it done.
July 20, 2014
Paul WilsonDrew,
First, if you are hooking and you are not trying to hook it your grip is too strong. Watch:
Hooking: https://ignitiongolf.com/cure-hooking
You are not doing the touch the head position because you are trying to hit the ball plus you are trying to fight off a hook when you play. I have done numerous tips on this. Forget the ball. Work on a neutral grip. Then take the club and touch the back of your head when you play. If you have to swing at 1mph to do so then do so. It is about the positions NOT the ball. The harder you hit, the tighter you get the less it will split you ears. Go out late and night if you have to and just do the position. Carry numerous balls in your pocket and keep hitting them until you do it. Then do it again and again until you are good at it.
If you can do it in practice swings you can do it. If you cannot do it when you play you are NOT thinking of doing it. So change the way you think and stop trying to hit the ball. Take the club and physically touch your head not matter where it goes. It does not matter. What matter is if the club is touching your head or not.
Watch:
How To Take Your Swing From The Range To The Course: https://ignitiongolf.com/swing-range/
DRILL: Do It Right at 1MPH https://ignitiongolf.com/right-at-1mph/
When Is Your Swing Over?: https://ignitiongolf.com/swing-club-touching-head/
Swing From Point A to Point B: https://ignitiongolf.com/point-a-to-point-b/
Playing Thoughts: https://ignitiongolf.com/playing-thoughts/
Taking Powerless Arms to the Course: https://ignitiongolf.com/powerless-arms-when-playing/
What To Think About When You Play: https://ignitiongolf.com/what-to-think-when-playing/
January 12, 2016
RYDGJRI also think this video is really great. I have had it in my favorites for a long time now, but can’t bring myself to remove it. It is just such a good one to review when I don’t play like I should. I think the reason some folks quit the site is that they “think” that their swing is alreay pretty good and they are just looking for that quick & easy minor fix. I too kept trying to apply bandade fixes for many years with mixed results. Once I made up my mind to really follow your instruction completely, without trying to shortcut or change it to fit my own thinking, things really started to improve for me. I went back to the very basics with your instruction like I was just learning to play. I had always felt, for instance, that my grip was fine, but I found that it was in need of a little work also. Going back to square one was not an easy thing to do, but it is now starting to pay off and golf is fun again. I’m too old now to be great at this game, but I found the site in time to get quite a bit better and hit a lot more good shots than I ever did before. I think it is important to follow just one person’s instructions and not get caught up in trying to get info from way too many different sources. That has not worked very well for me in the past in any event.
January 13, 2016
Paul WilsonGary.
Glad you liked the tips. The fundamentals are critical. Following 1 teacher is important too. Hopefully people follow me but even if they don’t they can’t be jumping around. Learning a good swing takes understanding and practice. As I keep saying just work on one thing at at time. Pretty soon you will have the whole swing.
Keep up the good work.
December 6, 2018
MichaelBarrettPaul,
I agree with John Hoyle above this is one of the greatest tips ever. You keep saying it over and over that if we hit the finish position everything will take care of itself. This lesson really brings your teaching philosophy together.
As a lifetime slider and arms swinger I always tried to steer and manipulate the ball with my hands and arms with nothing but disastrous results. I just couldn’t let go. Now I know that in letting the club go wherever it wants to go it will automatically seek its own square position as is goes to its widest point. All I need to think about is hitting the finish position. The rest will take care of itself.
It amazes me thinking back whenever I have properly finished the swing as you teach I look up and the ball is on a laser line toward its target.
My two new and only swing thoughts: swing easy and hit the finish.
Perhaps this tip should be re-run.
My last thought: Why the **** is no one else teaching this stuff?
Thanks
Mike
December 6, 2018
Paul WilsonMichael,
I say it and few listen yet they keep asking me how to fix impact.. It’s a never ending loop. Then the person finally tries one or two of the positions and they tell me it worked. Hitting the ball is a powerful force. People hit and do not think about doing the positions. This is why I want everyone to do nightly practice swings. No ball = no hit. Now the person can focus on the positions and build the swing.
No one I teaching it because I saw it over 27 years ago and they haven’t. I realized this about 2 months ago. I’ve only told a few people. This tip explains it. I just happened to see about 30 pros doing it in this position on the same page. Most teachers only watch one a time so they haven’t seen it. Plus they think impact is the most important position when that is the last thing you should be thinking about.
Pros Are Doing The Same Swing: https://ignitiongolf.com/pros-follow-through-position/
December 7, 2018
MichaelBarrettPaul,
Thanks for the Pros video link I will include it in my favorites. Keep on preaching The Gospel!
Mike