Great advice Paul. I play a mountain course close to my house and I always get myself into trouble with these types of lie.
I’m still having trouble not pulling the ball too much off of this lie.
Sometimes it’s hard for me to know how far to stand from the ball.
Also working on not swinging hard. It is a challenge!
You will never stop pulling it from this lie. I pulled it! Just got to play for it. Aim right. You could even open the face a little. This will reduce the pull. Not too much thought or you will blow it right. Once you get a little more confidence with these shots you will be able to dial them in better.
Great lesson, Paul. The everlasting problem in these situations is that sometimes you pull off the great shot. Then you think you can do it again and disaster strikes. Good course management is playing the odds based on your talent level, taking a bogey if necessary and moving on to the next hole.
I still love you Paul for fixing my 20plus year slice in 30 seconds with powerless arms and thumbs to the target. Went to the driving range today and had a playfull time with driver and 3 iron hitting high draws; pull hooks; push hooks and only a couple of slice spin hits. As you say its all about getting the correct spin on the ball; then sort out direction with the left hip and body. cant believe I spent 20 years slicing with very ugly divots. I’ll try and get a few friends to join Ignition Golf.
A very happy customer working on the spin.
And some people don’t believe this works. Ha! I wouldn’t say it if I couldn’t do it. Now you need to keep it hooking until you have mastered the release. Then you will be purely working on coiling and uncoiling. This will get you the consistency.
Paul, great explanation on course management….on your future tips on these kind of lies would you please indicate ball position for us higher handicappers. Thanx
Paul, I repeat Harvey’s question about ball position. I have a PGA dvd & it is mentioned you play the ball a little more back in the stance. Is this right or wrong?
Think of it like a putt. If you are on a slope a putt will break one way or the other. A shot from a lie like this will spin one way or the other too so you aim left or right.
If it is downhill it will fade. Uphill it will draw. So downhill / uphill aim even more left or right. Alter your legs at set up accordingly.
Paul, my inquiry is in the nature of an observation about which I should be grateful for your analysis. I have been a student of your instruction for a litttle while but am still having difficulty mastering “powerless arms” , but do roconise when I succeed by the effortless feeling and resulting ball flight. I am 6 foot 4 inches tall and find when the ball is slightly above my feet , rather than in your video, I feel more comfortable and am able to swing more freely using my legs as the power source in the downswing, as you teach. I would welcome your consideration of this to enable me to try to replicate the swing when the ball and my stance are level. Many thanks.
Every taller person I have taught bends over too much. The more you bend the more your shoulders see-saw instead of coiling. I just taught a 6’4″ student yesterday. not a problem to get him into my taller set up. I have taught a long driver who was 6’8″ again no problem. You need to feel like you are going down not forward to set up. Imagine being inside a cylinder and your head is not going to hit the outer wall. Rear end out and less angle between the clubshaft and left arm. This angle is only slight. With less angle your club is longer which allows you to stand taller. So you should have clubs that are about 1.5″ longer and about 4 degrees upright. This should do the trick.
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24 Responses to “How To Hit Shots With Ball Above Your Feet”
August 6, 2014
STEVECAMPBELLGreat advice Paul. I play a mountain course close to my house and I always get myself into trouble with these types of lie.
I’m still having trouble not pulling the ball too much off of this lie.
Sometimes it’s hard for me to know how far to stand from the ball.
Also working on not swinging hard. It is a challenge!
August 6, 2014
Paul WilsonSteve,
You will never stop pulling it from this lie. I pulled it! Just got to play for it. Aim right. You could even open the face a little. This will reduce the pull. Not too much thought or you will blow it right. Once you get a little more confidence with these shots you will be able to dial them in better.
August 6, 2014
RonCalabreseGreat lesson, Paul. The everlasting problem in these situations is that sometimes you pull off the great shot. Then you think you can do it again and disaster strikes. Good course management is playing the odds based on your talent level, taking a bogey if necessary and moving on to the next hole.
Ron Calabrese
August 6, 2014
DavidJonesPaul, do you move the ball a bit back in your stance for this shot or is the ball position normal? I really enjoy the playing lesson aspect.
Regards.
David
August 7, 2014
Paul WilsonDavid,
You can certainly do this. Just experiment to see what works for you. Don’t drop it behind center though.
August 6, 2014
TomHi Paul, love these playing tips! Thanks
August 7, 2014
Paul WilsonTom,
Glad you like them. Thanks.
August 6, 2014
SIMONCORRIGANI still love you Paul for fixing my 20plus year slice in 30 seconds with powerless arms and thumbs to the target. Went to the driving range today and had a playfull time with driver and 3 iron hitting high draws; pull hooks; push hooks and only a couple of slice spin hits. As you say its all about getting the correct spin on the ball; then sort out direction with the left hip and body. cant believe I spent 20 years slicing with very ugly divots. I’ll try and get a few friends to join Ignition Golf.
A very happy customer working on the spin.
August 7, 2014
Paul WilsonSimon,
And some people don’t believe this works. Ha! I wouldn’t say it if I couldn’t do it. Now you need to keep it hooking until you have mastered the release. Then you will be purely working on coiling and uncoiling. This will get you the consistency.
Watch:
Drill – Smooth Wrist Release: https://ignitiongolf.com/smooth-wrist-release/
Then work on:
Coiling: https://ignitiongolf.com/learn-coil-backswing
Shoulder Rotation – Learning To Coil: https://ignitiongolf.com/learning-to-coil/
Move Head: https://ignitiongolf.com/move-head-back/
Uncoil 1: https://ignitiongolf.com/uncoil
Uncoil 2: https://ignitiongolf.com/uncoil-follow-up
Legs Touching: https://ignitiongolf.com/touch-knees
Exactly How To Do Touch The Legs Position: https://ignitiongolf.com/how-to-touch-the-legs-position/
August 6, 2014
HarveyFedermanPaul, great explanation on course management….on your future tips on these kind of lies would you please indicate ball position for us higher handicappers. Thanx
August 7, 2014
Paul WilsonHarvey,
If I don’t say it use your normal ball position. In this case you can drop it back a little if it helps. Never behind center though.
August 6, 2014
LouisBondPaul, I repeat Harvey’s question about ball position. I have a PGA dvd & it is mentioned you play the ball a little more back in the stance. Is this right or wrong?
Thanks,
louis
August 7, 2014
Paul WilsonLouis,
You can drop it back a little if you like. Not behind center though.
August 6, 2014
BrianClaffeyThis is a great tip Paul and I liked the course management part especially.
Many thanks.
Brian.
August 7, 2014
Paul WilsonBrian,
Glad you liked it. Thanks. Trying to find time to shoot some more. Need a course with no one on it. This is tricky.
August 7, 2014
MichaelRodrickHi Paul;
Depending on the severity of the slope, should you not choke down more on the club? I noticed you said about an inch for your shot.
August 7, 2014
Paul WilsonMicheal,
Yes. This was a good slope. More than that and I would have gripped down more. You can feel this amount as you set up to the ball.
August 7, 2014
ERIABBERAHi Paul,
Here is a scenario. The ball is lying above feet on a downhill. Do we align straight to the target?
August 12, 2014
Paul WilsonEriab,
In the future just re-post the comment. This way I will see it.
On any of these uneven lies you are not aiming on target. I have tips on all the different lies here:
Ball Above Feet: https://ignitiongolf.com/ball-above-your-feet
Ball Below Feet: https://ignitiongolf.com/shot-ball-below-feet
Uphill: https://ignitiongolf.com/uphill-lies
Downhill: https://ignitiongolf.com/shot-downhill-lie
August 13, 2014
ERIABBERAPaul,
I have gone through the 4 lessons. Now all I want to know is how to play a ball
which is ABOVE THE FEET BUT AT THE SAME TIME ON A DOWNHILL LIE.
August 13, 2014
Paul WilsonEriab,
That is a downhill sidehill lie.
Think of it like a putt. If you are on a slope a putt will break one way or the other. A shot from a lie like this will spin one way or the other too so you aim left or right.
If it is downhill it will fade. Uphill it will draw. So downhill / uphill aim even more left or right. Alter your legs at set up accordingly.
June 30, 2015
AnthonyDeaconPaul, my inquiry is in the nature of an observation about which I should be grateful for your analysis. I have been a student of your instruction for a litttle while but am still having difficulty mastering “powerless arms” , but do roconise when I succeed by the effortless feeling and resulting ball flight. I am 6 foot 4 inches tall and find when the ball is slightly above my feet , rather than in your video, I feel more comfortable and am able to swing more freely using my legs as the power source in the downswing, as you teach. I would welcome your consideration of this to enable me to try to replicate the swing when the ball and my stance are level. Many thanks.
June 30, 2015
Paul WilsonAnthony,
Every taller person I have taught bends over too much. The more you bend the more your shoulders see-saw instead of coiling. I just taught a 6’4″ student yesterday. not a problem to get him into my taller set up. I have taught a long driver who was 6’8″ again no problem. You need to feel like you are going down not forward to set up. Imagine being inside a cylinder and your head is not going to hit the outer wall. Rear end out and less angle between the clubshaft and left arm. This angle is only slight. With less angle your club is longer which allows you to stand taller. So you should have clubs that are about 1.5″ longer and about 4 degrees upright. This should do the trick.
July 1, 2015
AnthonyDeaconPaul; thanks, this is helpful , I will work on it.