Good Woods Bad Irons

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Paul Wilson is the creator of Swing Machine Golf and founder of Ignition Golf. Paul's golf swing technique is based on the Iron Byron swing machine. YouTube Channels: Paul Wilson Golf and Ignition Golf Tips. Please Join me on Google+

26 Responses to “Good Woods Bad Irons”

  1. Great explanation, your instructions are the best!

  2. June 22, 2016


    GREETINGS COACH A question just to make sure. My new swing trigger and I think I have finally found the right on, is FROM A TO B. My question is ,going from a to b when the club is at the bottom and is transitioning from the down swing to the follow through mentally think about and feel my wrists snap from one side to the other.I don’t know if I made a clear picture but I feel the shift. I end up in the touch ears and knees position but I don’t want to be manipulating the snap but it feels right and the ball goes straight . This is probably a dumb question but …. THANkS COACH

    • John,

      I have plenty of people who feel the snap when they first do it. This is because they have had a lifetime of locked wrists. So looser wrists and releasing it totally different so it is easy to recognize. It will become natural after you do it a while. You saying this tells me this is a major breakthrough you are having. You need to keep doing/feeling it.

  3. Paul ,Two comments on this excellent reminder video lesson :
    -When you look at ancient photos or movies of the golfers of the 1920’s and 1940 ‘s,they were swinging very erect ,much more than the Pro’s of today (They had more vertical swings )
    -the top golfers in the last USPGA at OAKMONT did swing around their body very much :the one who does this the best is DUSTIN JOHNSON :just look at him rehearsing his swing before each shot !

    • Raymond,

      You are correct. The best players of all time were standing taller too. Nicklaus, Watson, Snead, Tiger to 2003, Couples etc. etc. Until one of those tilted swings can beat Tiger or Nicklaus I will continue to teach a taller setup. The taller setup allows you to coil and uncoil consistently and it never hurts your back.

  4. Paul,
    Tip is right on for me.
    I’ve been hitting “miserable” irons and good to excellent woods. My bad short irons have been very low but straight toward target half the time, but also weak, soft, poor contact hits to the right with slices.
    The day before this tip came out, I was trying to fix my short iron swing on the range using your swing theory and positions and the following seemed to fix it: loosening my grip pressure, swinging easier (70-80%) with weak arms, and standing more erect (felt like I was arching my back). I recently saw videos of my swing and noticed very terrible, bent over. non-athletic looking, posture, especially with the short irons. Still working on backward tilt at contact too. Helps a lot when I do it right, but struggling to get that consistent for all clubs. Any further thoughts on getting proper tilt at contact?
    Can’t wait to get back to the range and course to apply this stuff. Shot a relatively low score (that hasn’t happened in years) the day after my work on the range and know this tip will work if I can keep it up.
    Muchas gracias.

  5. Biggest problem is keeping the head 3 to 5 inches behind the ball when trying to get to the left Side. In the beginning of the round of golf I have no problem making that transition and keeping the head behind the ball . But as the round continues my lower back seems to tighten up and I can no longer do this which results in a lot of pull hooks. I could sure use your help on this one do you have any thoughts

    • Bruce,

      Sounds like you are getting tired later in the round so your legs stop working. It also sounds you are trying to force the head to stay behind the ball. Why not do this on the range and in practice swings. Then when you play do a couple of practice swings before every shot feeling this tilt then when you hit your shot feel what you just felt but make sure you are going through to the follow through position.

      The tilt is important but it’s going to be tough to work it is when you’re playing. You should be doing this in practice and getting used to the feeling of the tilt. After you do it for a while it will be in your real swing.

      Watch this tip:

      Coming Down The Stretch:

  6. Thanks Paul; I really needed this specific lesson. After watching it four times I took it to the range–AND THE CONCEPT (Look up, sit, bend), (and swing the short iron around the body) WORKED!
    I’m back to hitting the irons with accuracy and power. (I had had the shanks for the last 4-5 weeks!!!)

    • Eric,

      My students never shank it. The taller setup is the key. Glad you found it. Now you have to make this a habit. Just don’t clearly see your toes at set up and don’t see your toes at all at the top of the backswing. If so, you will never shank it again.

  7. Paul,

    With the lower body powering the swing, are there some good exercises for the legs and hips to strengthen them to help the swing?


  8. March 11, 2017


    Hey real quick, with short and medium pitch shots, is 6-7 inch distance from the ball still in play? Im pretty sure it is and that standing tall with short pitch shots is very key to hitting them solid. Just wanted to confirm that

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      March 12, 2017

      Paul Wilson


      It might be a little less because gripping down would put you closer to the ball. Just don’t be jammed in and you will be fine.

  9. April 23, 2017


    I have the exact opposite problem. My irons are great but my drives at coming in at 4-7 degree angle per the tracman. Crating backspin on my driver. Have tried moving ball forward on driver but still hitting down. In spite of this, the ball goes straight, looks good and sounds ok but avg like 220 off tee

  10. Paul, just finished a two man scramble and we came in the money. I have had a problem with spraying my short and mid irons mostly pulling and pushing. I have started using my lower body to initiate the down swing, turning the hips then shoulders to the target. My iron shots have become crisp and on line…one problem though, i am consistently 1 to 2 irons short. I hit a 7 iron usually 150 yds. Now it’s between 135 to 140 yds. Any advice on how to get more didtance. I must say, this new swing really feels great and I don’t want to go back to hitting with my arms and hands.


  11. June 15, 2018



    I actually have the reverse issue from this video, that is, good irons bad woods (maybe hitting down too much with the woods)?

    Do you have any suggested videos or approaches which could help?

    Many thanks,


  12. September 27, 2019


    I too am hitting the driver well but I am struggling with my irons. My bad iron shots are push slices and sometime a shank happens and I have lost distance with my irons. In my setup with the irons I am try to keep my body vertical but then I feel like I am reaching way to too much with my arms to get the club to the ground. It feels uncomfortable. Do I need to sit more with my knees to help keep my upper body vertical so I can coil around my body? Any other suggestions or tips?

  13. Hi Paul,

    I am a returning client and a senior. For the last two years, I have been playing with a slight physical handicap. Unfortunately, I have partially lost sight in my right eye. However, I have found that the impairment has not been a big deal and have played some decent rounds of golf. I am having problems with my set up with irons as it feels different with the impairment. Your tip on not hitting down has been very helpful. Just thought you may have some experience working with sight impaired golfers.

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