Greetings Coach I found a great way for me to check positions. It was after dark ,I turned on the backyard light,i went out and saw my huge shadow in the yard.I did some practice swings watching my big shadow in front of me. My shadow was twice my size and so all the moves were bigger more pronounced.I turned a different way so that i could make sure i had the proper tilt in my finish It was helpful watching the moves double the size.I know it may sound weird but it helped me . Thanks another great tip I cant wait for the other 699
Hi, Love the tip. I have a question about ball position. I watched golf my way and Jack put the ball in one position no matter what clubs he is using. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWSsIbsp3jQ
I like to move the ball position a little. The ball should move more forward with longer club because they take longer to square. I did a tip on this here:
The other thing I’ve found is that if I don’t finish in the correct angle, when I get to Point B, my elbows have separated and my grip comes apart. Not sure why, but just keeping the angle fixes the rest of the follow through.
It also forces you to get your weight to the forward leg because you’ll hit some really fat shots if you get lazy with the lower body!
If you lose the angle you come out of it thus locking the hinge. So this is a huge factor in consistency. Feels great when you hit the ball to the same place each time.
Paul,Is the follow through position the same for all clubs or not :it seems to me that with the short irons I finish more vertical than with the longer clubs where I am carried around into the finish postion with the tilted attitude you show .
Paul ,it must be So ,because I don’t have at all the same feeling with the médium and short clubs as for the long irons ,hybrids and Woods :I havevthe sensation of finishing much more érect.
What should I correct and work on ?
Raymond, Watch every shot with your eyes on an angle. I don’t know how else to tell you this. Hit the ball, then watch the ball. Maybe with longer clubs you are trying to look at little early. After all you are trying to hit the ball a long way. The harder you hit, the more you will look to see what you hit.
Paul,
What happened to the video quality on this tip?It looks like your early 2012-2011 YouTube Videos Not just blurry on full screen But also in NON expanded Mode.BTW it’s only this one not any of the ones since you did the website overhaul.Maybe it’s time for an HD mini cam corder(really great pics)
I had to re-do it. Pete edited it and he wasn’t around. So I downloaded it from the video server. I do shoot on HD cameras in 720 not HD so reduce the filesize so people in all parts of the world can view the tips. I do everything for a reason.
Good video
With the roil over drill you have three choices : early…produces a hook, late….produces a slice and lastly center….produces a straight shot. This is with no early hip movement. WHERE IS THE HANDLE OF THE CLUB in relation to your body when rolling it over for the straight shot?
I have done this for the last 2 days on the practice range & it is so easy & effective i could not believe it; watching great shots time after time is something i have not been used too. Can’t wait to get with my playing group & watch the money come home. Thanks for one of the best tips i have ever had.
Paul ,is having the forearms close together in th backswing important or not ?
German Tour Pro MARTIN KAYMER Demonstrates a training tip with a tennis ball ,hanging on a pièce of string ,hold in position between the forearms ,who are therefore ” glued ” together .
I fin d this difficult to émulate ,as for me !
The distance between the elbows is important so your swing does not collapse or chicken wing. I tell people to feel like they are holding a brick bewtween the elbows as the swing and not drop it until the end of the Follow Through.
Paul
I struggle with hitting wedges thin sometimes. Feels like maybe hanging back on it but it can ruin my round. (3hc) Definitely feel it has to do with my hips. Any thoughts on how to ensure this doesn’t happen.
Just search the Red Navigation bar at the top of the page under SWING TIPS for my pitching tips. You need to get he body moving with these shots. For most people turning he belt buckle instead of using the legs seems to work.
Paul, just to say, many thanks this is fantastic! a really great tip.
Along with some of your other follow through tips this has really gelled a series of things i’ve been working on with weight transference and driving my body effectively (despite pushing off with the right foot I’ve never really felt the impact of this action on the swing, until now!)
Sounds like you are making some serious progress. Keep doing what you are doing so you keep feeling the legs and hips. As you get better at it it becomes a whole new world. Good job.
Work on my taller setup which is a normal setup for a great swing then get fitted. If you have clubs that have been bent flat you will most likely need them bumped up to standard. If you are taller you may need them 2-4 degrees up depending on how tall you are and the length of your arms.
My most common miss is thin, poor contact. I do tend to come up out of the ball to soon and also let my head move forward. It would seem like working on keeping my head back would improve my spine angle maintenance too.
This tip turned on the light for me as to why I hit so many thin shots.
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26 Responses to “Follow Through Mistakes – Spine Angle”
July 18, 2014
johnhoyleGreetings Coach I found a great way for me to check positions. It was after dark ,I turned on the backyard light,i went out and saw my huge shadow in the yard.I did some practice swings watching my big shadow in front of me. My shadow was twice my size and so all the moves were bigger more pronounced.I turned a different way so that i could make sure i had the proper tilt in my finish It was helpful watching the moves double the size.I know it may sound weird but it helped me . Thanks another great tip I cant wait for the other 699
July 18, 2014
Paul WilsonJohn,
Using this shadow is a great way to check things. I did a few tips using it here:
Drill: Use Your Shadow to Check Your Backswing Length: https://ignitiongolf.com/drill-shadow-backswing-length/
DRILL: Move Your Head: https://ignitiongolf.com/drill-head-move-shadow
DRILL: Use Your Shadow to Learn the Hip Turn: https://ignitiongolf.com/drill-shadow-hips/
July 18, 2014
LuxingYeHi, Love the tip. I have a question about ball position. I watched golf my way and Jack put the ball in one position no matter what clubs he is using.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWSsIbsp3jQ
Does this make sense?
July 18, 2014
Paul WilsonLuxing,
I like to move the ball position a little. The ball should move more forward with longer club because they take longer to square. I did a tip on this here:
Ball Position: https://ignitiongolf.com/ball-position
Easy Way To Check Ball Position: https://ignitiongolf.com/ball-position-easy-check/
Also:
Easy Way to Check Width of Stance: https://ignitiongolf.com/easy-check-width-stance/
July 18, 2014
JaySchwarzGreat tip, Paul.
The other thing I’ve found is that if I don’t finish in the correct angle, when I get to Point B, my elbows have separated and my grip comes apart. Not sure why, but just keeping the angle fixes the rest of the follow through.
It also forces you to get your weight to the forward leg because you’ll hit some really fat shots if you get lazy with the lower body!
July 18, 2014
Paul WilsonJay,
If you lose the angle you come out of it thus locking the hinge. So this is a huge factor in consistency. Feels great when you hit the ball to the same place each time.
July 18, 2014
RaymondCHASTELPaul,Is the follow through position the same for all clubs or not :it seems to me that with the short irons I finish more vertical than with the longer clubs where I am carried around into the finish postion with the tilted attitude you show .
July 18, 2014
Paul WilsonRaymond,
You one have one swing so yes it is the same. You are changing your setup with shorter clubs if the club is not ending up parallel to your ears.
July 19, 2014
RaymondCHASTELPaul ,it must be So ,because I don’t have at all the same feeling with the médium and short clubs as for the long irons ,hybrids and Woods :I havevthe sensation of finishing much more érect.
What should I correct and work on ?
July 20, 2014
Paul WilsonRaymond, Watch every shot with your eyes on an angle. I don’t know how else to tell you this. Hit the ball, then watch the ball. Maybe with longer clubs you are trying to look at little early. After all you are trying to hit the ball a long way. The harder you hit, the more you will look to see what you hit.
July 18, 2014
TIMADAMSPaul,
What happened to the video quality on this tip?It looks like your early 2012-2011 YouTube Videos Not just blurry on full screen But also in NON expanded Mode.BTW it’s only this one not any of the ones since you did the website overhaul.Maybe it’s time for an HD mini cam corder(really great pics)
July 18, 2014
Paul WilsonTim,
I had to re-do it. Pete edited it and he wasn’t around. So I downloaded it from the video server. I do shoot on HD cameras in 720 not HD so reduce the filesize so people in all parts of the world can view the tips. I do everything for a reason.
July 18, 2014
BruceJespersenGood video
With the roil over drill you have three choices : early…produces a hook, late….produces a slice and lastly center….produces a straight shot. This is with no early hip movement. WHERE IS THE HANDLE OF THE CLUB in relation to your body when rolling it over for the straight shot?
July 18, 2014
Paul WilsonBruce,
The handle of the club could be ahead, even or behind the ball depending on how your driver is made. Some have your hands ahead, even or behind.
July 18, 2014
DarrelStutesmanPaul,
I have done this for the last 2 days on the practice range & it is so easy & effective i could not believe it; watching great shots time after time is something i have not been used too. Can’t wait to get with my playing group & watch the money come home. Thanks for one of the best tips i have ever had.
Darrel
July 20, 2014
Paul WilsonDarrel,
That’s great news. This is such a huge position for consistency.
July 19, 2014
RaymondCHASTELPaul ,is having the forearms close together in th backswing important or not ?
German Tour Pro MARTIN KAYMER Demonstrates a training tip with a tennis ball ,hanging on a pièce of string ,hold in position between the forearms ,who are therefore ” glued ” together .
I fin d this difficult to émulate ,as for me !
July 20, 2014
Paul WilsonRaymond,
The distance between the elbows is important so your swing does not collapse or chicken wing. I tell people to feel like they are holding a brick bewtween the elbows as the swing and not drop it until the end of the Follow Through.
July 23, 2014
MMPaul
I struggle with hitting wedges thin sometimes. Feels like maybe hanging back on it but it can ruin my round. (3hc) Definitely feel it has to do with my hips. Any thoughts on how to ensure this doesn’t happen.
thanks.
July 23, 2014
Paul WilsonMike,
Just search the Red Navigation bar at the top of the page under SWING TIPS for my pitching tips. You need to get he body moving with these shots. For most people turning he belt buckle instead of using the legs seems to work.
August 14, 2014
DavidKnoxPaul, just to say, many thanks this is fantastic! a really great tip.
Along with some of your other follow through tips this has really gelled a series of things i’ve been working on with weight transference and driving my body effectively (despite pushing off with the right foot I’ve never really felt the impact of this action on the swing, until now!)
thanks again.
August 15, 2014
Paul WilsonDavid,
Glad you liked it. Thanks.
Sounds like you are making some serious progress. Keep doing what you are doing so you keep feeling the legs and hips. As you get better at it it becomes a whole new world. Good job.
April 15, 2015
RobertLabusI’m new to this method. Would more upright clubs be better for this method.
April 16, 2015
Paul WilsonRobert,
Work on my taller setup which is a normal setup for a great swing then get fitted. If you have clubs that have been bent flat you will most likely need them bumped up to standard. If you are taller you may need them 2-4 degrees up depending on how tall you are and the length of your arms.
Watch:
Sit On The Edge Of A Bar Stool To Set Up: https://ignitiongolf.com/setup-edge-of-bar-stool/
Taller Setup: https://ignitiongolf.com/bartender-setup/
Stand Tall with Short Clubs: https://ignitiongolf.com/stand-tall-short-clubs/
May 26, 2019
MichaelBarrettPaul,
My most common miss is thin, poor contact. I do tend to come up out of the ball to soon and also let my head move forward. It would seem like working on keeping my head back would improve my spine angle maintenance too.
This tip turned on the light for me as to why I hit so many thin shots.
Thanks!
Mike
May 29, 2019
Paul WilsonMike,
You are coming out of it because you are doing something new, in a pressure situation, swinging too hard. Slow down as soon as you start doing this.
You Will Top It: https://ignitiongolf.com/you-will-top-it/