Paul. What indoor drills would you reccommend to practice this feeling when you have limited ceiling height? As always I love waching you, your swing and your excitement over the powerless swing.
Dear Mr HARVEY KIRK ,I don’t want to preempt Paul’s reply ,but as for me I use a training aid called the XLR8R(=Accelerator) , or “SPEED BALL ),sold by JOHN NOVOSEL,which requires limited space to train with.
There are different versions of it ,but the shorter shafted one is quite enough .
You also have the very effective “SUPERSPEED STICKS” of MIKE NAPOLEON to train you to swing faster ….
Low ceilings are no problem. Just grip down on a club and hold it off the ground the amount you gripped down. Then you never hit the ceiling. You can also get a short training club or have a club cut off and re-gripped.
At home you should be working on perfect swing positions. Watch yourself do them in a mirror if you can and look for the feedback of each position.
You should also be working on fully extension after impact and into the through swing.
Very interesting lesson ,Paul :I believe you never gave it on your site before .
But ,a question :how do you really know you have “turned your arms off”.
I believe I do so ,as I concentrate myself only on the fastest rotation possible of my lower body on the forward axis (Left leg ) and forbid myself to “hit ” with the arms ,just being careful that my wrists do “roll over “.
I never did hit all over the place ,as you mention ,even when I used my arms before adhering to your technique .The difference I see now is much more consistency and sending the ball further than before without effort :also the “crack “sound of the golf club face is more like the sound of a rifle shot than before .
Paul,
What about the IMPACT FEELING from the clubhead thru the shaft to your hands,What did that feel like on a solid hit?Was it like Butter(soft but solid?)I’m really interested on that feeling you get with your driver on those 300 yd hits
Hi Paul,
Your feelings are exactly what i feel when i swing correctly. Additionally, i sometimes feel that my hands are a singular element and they are heavy as well. When that happens, my shots go farther and still straight.
thanks,
ter
Starting to get the feel of this I think. The arms being extended at release clicked something for me.
My question is this, hitting some balls today the ones that went dead straight and felt really solid I felt like my lower body was turning fast and my arms felt like they were coming through slow (almost leisurely) compared to my old swing.
Allowing the arms to fully stretch out is critical. This will make a huge difference in your striking.
You are on the right track. I feel a tremendous leg drive. I feel nothing in my arms. They go along for the ride. Keep doing it. Like I said, the extension of the arms will be huge for you and everyone else of course.
Hi Paul. You don’t feel your arms but do you feel your hands release in to the ball? Feeling your hands is not quite the same as feeling your arms
Regards
David
I feel like I am not hitting or helping it with my hands. Keep in mind I have released it well over 1M times so my release is smooth. If you are just getting it you may feel your hands crossing on another but in no way should you feel like you are adding anything.
Great tip. Never viewed it before. I think knowing what the kinesthetic sensations should be in swinging the club is very helpful, whether that involves the feeling of “powerless arms” or any other phase of the swing. It’s a benchmark for self-monitoring that doesn’t rely on ball flight or visuals.
You title the tip, “What I am feeling when I hit the ball”. I’m wondering if “hit” is really the best word choice for what you’re teaching us to do. Hitting suggest the improper technique of using the arms to exert force directly onto the ball. I don’t know what would be the best word choice. A few suggestions: “sweep the ball,” “brush the ball,” “whisk the ball,” “flush the ball,” “stroke the ball”?
Well, I have thought about the word in the past. I need people to get it. If I am vague they may know what I’m talking about. People hit. Here’s how I hit. Totally different.
Your descriptions are fine but no one thinks of it that way.
Great tip. Currently unable to practice with a club due to wrist injury. Having tests next week and hand Orthopedic on the 31st. Hoping to avoid surgery. But, I enjoy your tips. I continue to do some practice w/o a club.
I have the feeling you describe about 100 % of the time with the Driver ,but I don’t get the the same consistency of feeling with the 3 or 4 woods off the turf .Peculiarly I get the sound feeling with the long hybrids ,2,5 and 4,so when I want to keep on the safe side I play the long Hybrids not the woods .
Now a question not related to this video:I saw a drill (MARIN CHUCK )for the head position in the swing:he showed starting wth an elongated stick against his left cheek and keeping this cheek behind and stuck to the elongated stick during the swing .I move my head back when going back so I don’t stay stuck to the stick and my head then moves forward during the swing .Should I endeavor to keep the head back or let it go forward ?
That is called keeping your head stick. Great idea if you have 1 leg or your feet together as you hit the ball. If not, then not such a good idea. Jim Mclean already proved in July 2001 of Golf Digest that pros move their head in the backwing on average 3.7 inches. This allows the building of the first axis in the backswing. Into the through swing you can also see him do a reverse C. This is due to the head position he prescribes. You really want a reverse C? Doubt it.
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20 Responses to “What I Am Feeling When I Hit a Ball”
November 1, 2015
HarveyKirkPaul. What indoor drills would you reccommend to practice this feeling when you have limited ceiling height? As always I love waching you, your swing and your excitement over the powerless swing.
November 1, 2015
RaymondCHASTELDear Mr HARVEY KIRK ,I don’t want to preempt Paul’s reply ,but as for me I use a training aid called the XLR8R(=Accelerator) , or “SPEED BALL ),sold by JOHN NOVOSEL,which requires limited space to train with.
There are different versions of it ,but the shorter shafted one is quite enough .
You also have the very effective “SUPERSPEED STICKS” of MIKE NAPOLEON to train you to swing faster ….
November 2, 2015
Paul WilsonHarvey,
Low ceilings are no problem. Just grip down on a club and hold it off the ground the amount you gripped down. Then you never hit the ceiling. You can also get a short training club or have a club cut off and re-gripped.
At home you should be working on perfect swing positions. Watch yourself do them in a mirror if you can and look for the feedback of each position.
You should also be working on fully extension after impact and into the through swing.
DRILL: Smooth Wrist Release: https://ignitiongolf.com/smooth-wrist-release/
DRILL: Grip Down Drill: https://ignitiongolf.com/drill-grip-down/
DRILL: Grip Down Drill 2: https://ignitiongolf.com/drill-feel-wrist-release/
DRILL: Another Way To Widen The Arc: https://ignitiongolf.com/drill-widen-arc/
DRILL: Arm Extension: https://ignitiongolf.com/drill-stretch-out-arms/
DRILL: Extend the Back Arm for Power and Consistency: https://ignitiongolf.com/drill-extend-back-arm/
Drill: 2 Chairs: https://ignitiongolf.com/drill-2-chairs/
November 1, 2015
RaymondCHASTELVery interesting lesson ,Paul :I believe you never gave it on your site before .
But ,a question :how do you really know you have “turned your arms off”.
I believe I do so ,as I concentrate myself only on the fastest rotation possible of my lower body on the forward axis (Left leg ) and forbid myself to “hit ” with the arms ,just being careful that my wrists do “roll over “.
I never did hit all over the place ,as you mention ,even when I used my arms before adhering to your technique .The difference I see now is much more consistency and sending the ball further than before without effort :also the “crack “sound of the golf club face is more like the sound of a rifle shot than before .
November 2, 2015
TIMADAMSPaul,
What about the IMPACT FEELING from the clubhead thru the shaft to your hands,What did that feel like on a solid hit?Was it like Butter(soft but solid?)I’m really interested on that feeling you get with your driver on those 300 yd hits
November 3, 2015
Paul WilsonTim,
I don’t feel the ball at all on solid hits. So yes, butter. I feel the weight of the club swinging through it. I just let it go undisturbed.
November 11, 2015
terrybadgerHi Paul,
Your feelings are exactly what i feel when i swing correctly. Additionally, i sometimes feel that my hands are a singular element and they are heavy as well. When that happens, my shots go farther and still straight.
thanks,
ter
November 11, 2015
Paul WilsonTerry,
Great. Keep feeling it.
September 29, 2017
SteveWeberPaul,
Starting to get the feel of this I think. The arms being extended at release clicked something for me.
My question is this, hitting some balls today the ones that went dead straight and felt really solid I felt like my lower body was turning fast and my arms felt like they were coming through slow (almost leisurely) compared to my old swing.
Am I on the right track here?
September 29, 2017
Paul WilsonSteve,
Allowing the arms to fully stretch out is critical. This will make a huge difference in your striking.
You are on the right track. I feel a tremendous leg drive. I feel nothing in my arms. They go along for the ride. Keep doing it. Like I said, the extension of the arms will be huge for you and everyone else of course.
January 19, 2018
DavidWaltersHi Paul. You don’t feel your arms but do you feel your hands release in to the ball? Feeling your hands is not quite the same as feeling your arms
Regards
David
January 19, 2018
Paul WilsonDavid,
I feel like I am not hitting or helping it with my hands. Keep in mind I have released it well over 1M times so my release is smooth. If you are just getting it you may feel your hands crossing on another but in no way should you feel like you are adding anything.
Work on this:
DRILL: Smooth Wrist Release: https://ignitiongolf.com/smooth-wrist-release/
January 19, 2018
FrankHalsteadSo much like fly casting. Kind of Zen
January 19, 2018
Paul WilsonFrank,
Haven’t even done that but I can see the similarity.
January 19, 2018
WillCooperGreat tip. Never viewed it before. I think knowing what the kinesthetic sensations should be in swinging the club is very helpful, whether that involves the feeling of “powerless arms” or any other phase of the swing. It’s a benchmark for self-monitoring that doesn’t rely on ball flight or visuals.
You title the tip, “What I am feeling when I hit the ball”. I’m wondering if “hit” is really the best word choice for what you’re teaching us to do. Hitting suggest the improper technique of using the arms to exert force directly onto the ball. I don’t know what would be the best word choice. A few suggestions: “sweep the ball,” “brush the ball,” “whisk the ball,” “flush the ball,” “stroke the ball”?
January 19, 2018
Paul WilsonWill,
Well, I have thought about the word in the past. I need people to get it. If I am vague they may know what I’m talking about. People hit. Here’s how I hit. Totally different.
Your descriptions are fine but no one thinks of it that way.
January 19, 2018
RickEganGreat tip. Currently unable to practice with a club due to wrist injury. Having tests next week and hand Orthopedic on the 31st. Hoping to avoid surgery. But, I enjoy your tips. I continue to do some practice w/o a club.
January 19, 2018
Paul WilsonRick,
Why not do drills without the club.
DRILL: No Club 1: https://ignitiongolf.com/drills-without-club-1/
DRILL: No Club 2: https://ignitiongolf.com/drills-without-club-2/
Also, Drill: Lean On Club to Touch Legs: https://ignitiongolf.com/drill-lean-on-club/
I have almost thought of every tip. There are no breaks in practice.
January 20, 2018
RaymondCHASTELI have the feeling you describe about 100 % of the time with the Driver ,but I don’t get the the same consistency of feeling with the 3 or 4 woods off the turf .Peculiarly I get the sound feeling with the long hybrids ,2,5 and 4,so when I want to keep on the safe side I play the long Hybrids not the woods .
Now a question not related to this video:I saw a drill (MARIN CHUCK )for the head position in the swing:he showed starting wth an elongated stick against his left cheek and keeping this cheek behind and stuck to the elongated stick during the swing .I move my head back when going back so I don’t stay stuck to the stick and my head then moves forward during the swing .Should I endeavor to keep the head back or let it go forward ?
January 21, 2018
Paul WilsonRaymond,
That is called keeping your head stick. Great idea if you have 1 leg or your feet together as you hit the ball. If not, then not such a good idea. Jim Mclean already proved in July 2001 of Golf Digest that pros move their head in the backwing on average 3.7 inches. This allows the building of the first axis in the backswing. Into the through swing you can also see him do a reverse C. This is due to the head position he prescribes. You really want a reverse C? Doubt it.