Is there a correct amount of tilt and how much is it? Different with different clubs? Added tilt a couple of months ago and saw some real nice high shots. Better direction too. Known in my foursome for lower shots than everyone else. Not proud of that though.
I have worked on this issue. I noticed if I do my swing very slowly and lead with the lower body,my elbow falls into position as you demonstrate on this tip. My problem is LEADING my upper body with my hip turn. It seems like they turn simultaneously. How do I get the little disconnect between upper and lower after my trigger?
Thx
ROY.
You practice. If you have hit with your arms for a long time you are not good at using your legs. So you practice leg and hips drills every night until you are good at using them. I keep trying to tell everyone this. Using your legs and hips is not just going to magically happen. This is because you have to go against human nature which is a powerful force. So every night you go into the backyard and do the drills below. Every time you play you do the drills. Every time you practice you do the drills. If you keep thinking and practicing powering your swing with your legs and hips you will use them.
Another excellent tip. On a different note, our national papers, here in Scotland,ran full page obituaries on Louise Suggs. In one of them there was a large photograph of her at the end of her swing. Everything you tell us was there I.e. Legs touching, back toe off the ground, body on a slight tilt and the club could not have been more parallel to hear ears.
It looked near perfection. A very modern swing from a too often forgotten time.
That’s great. I don’t make this stuff up. I have been teaching that position since my first lesson. If you just get that you have to do something right in your swing. This is why I want everyone to get that position. Unfortunately people just keep trying to hit the ball. If they would just think of ending in this position impact would be perfect. Glad you saw it. I love that position.
Paul ,This question about “what does the right elbow “comes forward again and again .
It has been covered in detail by BEN HOGAN in “THE MODERN FUNDAMENTALS OF GOLF” pages 97,98 and so on .
I don’t see much of an issue here as I parallel my golf swing with “slinging a flat stone with my right hand on the surface of a lake ”
The movement is quite similar ;
If you want to refine further on the subject ,you should note to which point of the right hip the right elbow comes in front before the right forearm is unleashed like a whip .
Hi Paul, I do the powerless arm, mindful of titlt & right elbow close/in front of the hip, I find I now hit toe shots (both driver & irons). It this now a timing release issue? Any tips please to correct this?? Many thanks, love your work.
If you are toeing you are either looking early or rolling onto your heels through impact. Toeing is usually a good thing because better players toe it while poorer players usually heel it.
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11 Responses to “Back Elbow and Back Hip Relationship”
August 13, 2015
CarlPetersonIs there a correct amount of tilt and how much is it? Different with different clubs? Added tilt a couple of months ago and saw some real nice high shots. Better direction too. Known in my foursome for lower shots than everyone else. Not proud of that though.
August 14, 2015
Paul WilsonCarl,
Yes there is. The longer the club the more tilt. I did a tip on it below.
Watch:
Impact Tilt With Different Clubs: https://ignitiongolf.com/impact-tilt-different-clubs/
August 14, 2015
johnhoyleGreetings Coach Thanks for the feedback all is OK here
August 14, 2015
RoyI have worked on this issue. I noticed if I do my swing very slowly and lead with the lower body,my elbow falls into position as you demonstrate on this tip. My problem is LEADING my upper body with my hip turn. It seems like they turn simultaneously. How do I get the little disconnect between upper and lower after my trigger?
Thx
ROY.
August 14, 2015
Paul WilsonRoy,
You practice. If you have hit with your arms for a long time you are not good at using your legs. So you practice leg and hips drills every night until you are good at using them. I keep trying to tell everyone this. Using your legs and hips is not just going to magically happen. This is because you have to go against human nature which is a powerful force. So every night you go into the backyard and do the drills below. Every time you play you do the drills. Every time you practice you do the drills. If you keep thinking and practicing powering your swing with your legs and hips you will use them.
DRILL: Swing Off Ground: https://ignitiongolf.com/drill-swing-off-ground/
DRILL: My Favorite Drill – Variation 2: https://ignitiongolf.com/favorite-drill-variation-2/
DRILL: Swing Off Ground Variation: https://ignitiongolf.com/drill-variation-favorite-drill/
DRILL: Listen to Club Swinging: https://ignitiongolf.com/drill-listen-to-club
DRILL: How To Really Increase Power: https://ignitiongolf.com/how-to-really-increase-power/
Driving Hips Harder But Hook It First: https://ignitiongolf.com/driving-hips-hook-first/
DRILL: How To Get Faster Hip Rotation: https://ignitiongolf.com/drill-faster-hip-rotation/
Hips To Target Feeling: https://ignitiongolf.com/hips-to-target-feeling/
DRILL: Belt Buckle Clubhead: https://ignitiongolf.com/drill-belt-buckle-clubhead
DRILL: Firing Legs in Downswing: https://ignitiongolf.com/drill-knee-ball-power/
DRILL: 2 Ways To Work On Your Hip Rotation: https://ignitiongolf.com/2-ways-hip-rotation/
DRILL: How To Get Your Hips Moving: https://ignitiongolf.com/drill-hips-moving/
Golf Swing Timing For More Distance: https://ignitiongolf.com/timing-more-distance/
August 14, 2015
daviddonaldsonAnother excellent tip. On a different note, our national papers, here in Scotland,ran full page obituaries on Louise Suggs. In one of them there was a large photograph of her at the end of her swing. Everything you tell us was there I.e. Legs touching, back toe off the ground, body on a slight tilt and the club could not have been more parallel to hear ears.
It looked near perfection. A very modern swing from a too often forgotten time.
August 14, 2015
Paul WilsonDavid,
That’s great. I don’t make this stuff up. I have been teaching that position since my first lesson. If you just get that you have to do something right in your swing. This is why I want everyone to get that position. Unfortunately people just keep trying to hit the ball. If they would just think of ending in this position impact would be perfect. Glad you saw it. I love that position.
August 14, 2015
RaymondCHASTELPaul ,This question about “what does the right elbow “comes forward again and again .
It has been covered in detail by BEN HOGAN in “THE MODERN FUNDAMENTALS OF GOLF” pages 97,98 and so on .
I don’t see much of an issue here as I parallel my golf swing with “slinging a flat stone with my right hand on the surface of a lake ”
The movement is quite similar ;
If you want to refine further on the subject ,you should note to which point of the right hip the right elbow comes in front before the right forearm is unleashed like a whip .
August 14, 2015
Paul WilsonRaymond,
This is too much right arm talk. I want your arms powerless. You use the body you will get the tilt and the arm will tuck perfectly.
September 18, 2018
GerryGibbinsHi Paul, I do the powerless arm, mindful of titlt & right elbow close/in front of the hip, I find I now hit toe shots (both driver & irons). It this now a timing release issue? Any tips please to correct this?? Many thanks, love your work.
September 19, 2018
Paul WilsonGerry,
Glad you like the tips. I appreciate it.
If you are toeing you are either looking early or rolling onto your heels through impact. Toeing is usually a good thing because better players toe it while poorer players usually heel it.
Follow this tip:
How To Cure Toeing: https://ignitiongolf.com/cure-toeing/