Paul, looks like your shoulders are propelling the club in the backswing and also in the downswing. Should the lower half of the body propell the club in the latter in this drill?
And perhaps a daft question, when you continually advocate armless swings, what do you mean by arms. Is it the entire area from shoulders to wrist or from the elbow to the wrist?
Hi Paul
Love the simplicity of this!
Where would you say the butt end of club is pointed for both āLā s? Target line or inside of it? many thanks Rob
For the backswing L I like it slightly inside the line so it can flatten in the downswing. Worst case scenario would be right on the lie. The though swing would be outside the line because the club would have fattened in the downswing which means it would be at, or close to, 90 degrees to your body.
Paul ,What’s your opinion in the early presetting (or cocking)of the wrists at the beginning of the backswing ,as advised by teacher JOE DANTE in his 1962 book :”4 Magic Moves to winning golf “as opposed to the gradual cocking during the entire backswing.
It is said that it simplifies your swing and puts you on plane from the beginning of the backswing .
Some today’s tour players seem to have gone this way .
I myself don’t like it as I find it disrupts my tempo and my smooth move going back
I don’t like the early set. Too may people who do this hit the ball too short. I find it activates the arms. I am trying to get the person’s arms out of the swing. So if they activate them in the beginning how do they turn them off coming down? Yes, some tour players do this. Faldo did it. At 6’4″ he hit it nowhere. He was accurate though.
I like the Y L Y L drill a lot because I think it combines the release positions and the Impact-Snap position (Y2) better than I have seen any other drill do. I have one question, where are you focused as your club travels from the top of your swing through contact and then through L2 on its way to the finish? Since almost all pros I have seen appear to focus on “contact” until the club reaches the release position (L2), I assume that is the answer but logically maybe it should be somewhere between contact and Y2. Isn’t that what David Duvall and Annika Sorenstam did when they appeared to “look up” before contact?
Hi Sir, In the “Y” position 2 prior to the release point are you suppose to squeeze your elbows together when reaching the release point (maintaining the connection with body).I have been doing the headcover under the lead armpit to stay connected drill. Thanks for all of your help. Have a great Day!
You are not really squeezing them together. You want them together from the centrifugal force of the golf club pulling or stretching your arms out. If you dropped your arms down to your side, it would be fully extended, you would not be forcing it into that position. The same thing goes for the “Y” position in the golf swing. You do not want to forcing it but there is some extending that you might have to do in order to get this position. Work on stretching the arms out to get rid of any sort of chicken wing and you will get better strikes. Check this video out:
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11 Responses to “Drill – Y L Y L”
October 2, 2018
JohnBenson‘Y’ in the ‘L’ are my best shots the longest and the straightest?
Because it’s Coach Wilsons fault! get it? š
I AM “staying loose” more and more often with better results
thanks Paul
October 4, 2018
Paul WilsonJohn,
Very good. You should be starting to do the swing more naturally by now and hitting a lot more better shots.
October 2, 2018
derekPaul, looks like your shoulders are propelling the club in the backswing and also in the downswing. Should the lower half of the body propell the club in the latter in this drill?
And perhaps a daft question, when you continually advocate armless swings, what do you mean by arms. Is it the entire area from shoulders to wrist or from the elbow to the wrist?
October 4, 2018
Paul WilsonDerek,
You are not even really thinking body. It was just so you get a feel for what you arms are doing. Just let the body follow along.
Arms mean you arms. From the tips of your finger to your shoulders. In no way are you hitting or helping the shot with your arms.
October 2, 2018
RobKedgleyHi Paul
Love the simplicity of this!
Where would you say the butt end of club is pointed for both āLā s? Target line or inside of it? many thanks Rob
October 4, 2018
Paul WilsonRob,
Glad you liked it.
For the backswing L I like it slightly inside the line so it can flatten in the downswing. Worst case scenario would be right on the lie. The though swing would be outside the line because the club would have fattened in the downswing which means it would be at, or close to, 90 degrees to your body.
October 3, 2018
RaymondCHASTELPaul ,What’s your opinion in the early presetting (or cocking)of the wrists at the beginning of the backswing ,as advised by teacher JOE DANTE in his 1962 book :”4 Magic Moves to winning golf “as opposed to the gradual cocking during the entire backswing.
It is said that it simplifies your swing and puts you on plane from the beginning of the backswing .
Some today’s tour players seem to have gone this way .
I myself don’t like it as I find it disrupts my tempo and my smooth move going back
October 4, 2018
Paul WilsonRaymond,
I don’t like the early set. Too may people who do this hit the ball too short. I find it activates the arms. I am trying to get the person’s arms out of the swing. So if they activate them in the beginning how do they turn them off coming down? Yes, some tour players do this. Faldo did it. At 6’4″ he hit it nowhere. He was accurate though.
October 15, 2018
JimMerwinHi, Paul.
I like the Y L Y L drill a lot because I think it combines the release positions and the Impact-Snap position (Y2) better than I have seen any other drill do. I have one question, where are you focused as your club travels from the top of your swing through contact and then through L2 on its way to the finish? Since almost all pros I have seen appear to focus on “contact” until the club reaches the release position (L2), I assume that is the answer but logically maybe it should be somewhere between contact and Y2. Isn’t that what David Duvall and Annika Sorenstam did when they appeared to “look up” before contact?
Thanks.
Jim
July 19, 2020
JohnDavidsonHi Sir, In the “Y” position 2 prior to the release point are you suppose to squeeze your elbows together when reaching the release point (maintaining the connection with body).I have been doing the headcover under the lead armpit to stay connected drill. Thanks for all of your help. Have a great Day!
July 19, 2020
Paul WilsonYou are not really squeezing them together. You want them together from the centrifugal force of the golf club pulling or stretching your arms out. If you dropped your arms down to your side, it would be fully extended, you would not be forcing it into that position. The same thing goes for the “Y” position in the golf swing. You do not want to forcing it but there is some extending that you might have to do in order to get this position. Work on stretching the arms out to get rid of any sort of chicken wing and you will get better strikes. Check this video out:
Manually Square the Clubface: https://ignitiongolf.com/impact-squaring-clubface/
Manually Square the Clubface (Follow Up): https://ignitiongolf.com/impact-squaring-face-follow-up/
Vertical To Vertical: https://ignitiongolf.com/vertical-to-vertical/