Excellent And basic lesson ,Paul:thank you for reminding this most important move to us .I have two additional thoughts to be sure I’m straightening the left leg properly’
– kick my left ” cheek” back.
– put m’y wieight on the left Heel when starting the downswing.
I have a left And a right prothestic knee .
When I have played a round OF golf ,the NeXT day m’y left knee hurts .
The ProthEsis doesn’t like this move!
I understand why TIGER WOODS incurred his knee injuries ,though I’m nô TIGER WOODS by far .
By the way ,who do you have to say about JORDAN SPIETH ” rolling over ” his left foot when swinging full through .
For me ,this is Bad And strictly” VERBOTEN ” .But JORDAN is JORDAN ,And hé gets away with it!
I have taught tons of people with a prosthetic knee and never heard a complaint. Might be your knee so be careful. You will never even come close to how fast Tiger does it or did it. As I said in the tip do not hurt yourself but this is move that should be done and mastered.
I have another great player who does this. Speith has done it probably over a million times so he is good at it. I wouldn’t tell anyone to do it. I like it flat at impact.
Hi Paul.I realize you’ve mentioned the straightening of the lead leg many times before, but the exercise really helps. I was having trouble consistently touching the legs, but concentrating on straightening the leg creates more room for the rotation.
Glad you liked it. It’s a shift and turn. The turn should be getting the knees to touch. This is a simple way to get used to it and understand the action.
Paul
In the 30 years of me trying to understand the swing this one move was the lightbulb moment for me, and the missing link to putting it all together, along with touching the legs, touching the head (follow through) and powerless arms. Everything else follows this move and to me, the most important lesson of all. I am sure you will put it in Full Swing, and thanks again for this tip!
Different people hear things different ways. This is why I say things differently. All it takes is the one light bulb moment. Let’s see how you do now.
I have had difficulties in the past to push the left knee back to straighten the left leg. Looking at the pros in their set up position they seem to have quite an angle between their upper body and their thighs. Trying to copy such a stance had put a lot of pressure on my thigh muscle making it difficult to push the left leg back. This also causes my body to move forward out of balance. I finally found that if I stand up with almost a straight leg taking the pressure off my thighs with just a slight flex on the knees I can now do all the drills you have presented throughout your website and keeping balance as well. I can rotate the hips much faster as well.
In my front yard today I had a minor revelation. I have had difficulty getting the legs to touch. Today I realized that part of the reason (maybe all of it) is that I had an improper spine angle. When the top of my body leans a little to the right on the follow through, it makes foerces the right leg to touch the left leg. If my body is too upright, the right leg doesn’t make it over to touch the left leg. Does this make sense to you?
You keep having these revelations. I guess your swing still needs work.
Never heard or seen this before. People don’t touch the legs because they:
– don’t care about the position
– thinking about the ball so they don’t check the position
– hitting with arms
– stance too wide
– sliding
– not shifting weight off the back foot.
If this makes you do it then do it. As you get to the follow through make the position important. Hold it, check it. If it is wrong, fix it. Do it every night at home until you have it mastered. Then work on the other positions. When I give lessons I start with grip, setup and follow through. If you are not doing this start working on it asap. This is the power source in your swing.
I have just joined and Know full well that I am a ball hitter (using my arms) and not my body. However, there was a time while practicing, I felt and did what you call the body swing. In my mind, I found myself having literally no tension in my arms (powerless arms) and I found that my ball striking was incredibly good. I also found that by rotating my body more, the farther my ball carried. So, empirically, I guess I discovered your method on my own about a year or more ago. When I went back out the next day, I was never able to recreate that feeling.That is why I bought into your system and want to learn it!
My difficulty is learning how to touch the knees together. When I am able to do this, I must narrow my stance, considerably. So much so, that I am afraid that when I swing, I will lose my balance. After watching this video, I am beginning to see that the knees actually touch after. your arms are up and the club is at the back of. your head. Is that correct? Because when I try to straighten the back knee in order to get my knees to touch, I find my right foot almost has to come off the ground, toe does not stay on the ground unless my body is totally turned. Am I missing something here? I have a short inseam, 29″, but I am having difficulty executing this drill. Any ideas?
One last thing, Arms! How do we make them stop trying to take over the swing after doing it for 40 years? I had the feeling that one time and have never been able to duplicate it. HELP?!?!
You couldn’t do it the next day because in your mind you were trying to hit shots just as good and as far so the arms crept back in and you got hitting again.
The key to getting the legs to touch is to lock the lead leg. If you keep it bend or your think “shift” you will have trouble. I like narrower rather than wider as you are learning it but you don’t want to be too narrow. As you say you could lose balance (which is not good either).
At around 3/4 through the lead leg is locked and the legs are almost touching. Just after that they touch first then the club touches the back of the head. So there is a sequence to it.
I have rarely ever had someone not be able to touch. The only ones are either severely bow legged or have a physical ailment and just cannot physically touch. Everyone else who is having an issue is not locking the lead leg.
So do it in practice swings nightly. If you are trying to get this just hitting balls it may be tricky. No ball and you can focus on the position and repeat it. If you keep doing something one way enough times you will get rid of the old way.
For right now, you need to build the swing first. As you do you will learn how to use the lower body to power the swing. At that point you can let go with the arms because you know your other power source (legs and hips) is working. Just turning the arms off is great but you may not fire the lower as hard as you should be to generate the power.
So hit less balls so 3 times as many practice swings. Build the swing as I show. At this point you will look like a pro. If so, you then have the right fundamentals. The right fundamentals will allow you to hit amazing shots. Final step turn the arms off completely.
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12 Responses to “Drill For Proper Forward Leg Movement”
November 23, 2015
RaymondCHASTELExcellent And basic lesson ,Paul:thank you for reminding this most important move to us .I have two additional thoughts to be sure I’m straightening the left leg properly’
– kick my left ” cheek” back.
– put m’y wieight on the left Heel when starting the downswing.
I have a left And a right prothestic knee .
When I have played a round OF golf ,the NeXT day m’y left knee hurts .
The ProthEsis doesn’t like this move!
I understand why TIGER WOODS incurred his knee injuries ,though I’m nô TIGER WOODS by far .
By the way ,who do you have to say about JORDAN SPIETH ” rolling over ” his left foot when swinging full through .
For me ,this is Bad And strictly” VERBOTEN ” .But JORDAN is JORDAN ,And hé gets away with it!
November 24, 2015
Paul WilsonRaymond,
I have taught tons of people with a prosthetic knee and never heard a complaint. Might be your knee so be careful. You will never even come close to how fast Tiger does it or did it. As I said in the tip do not hurt yourself but this is move that should be done and mastered.
I have another great player who does this. Speith has done it probably over a million times so he is good at it. I wouldn’t tell anyone to do it. I like it flat at impact.
November 23, 2015
RonCalabreseHi Paul.I realize you’ve mentioned the straightening of the lead leg many times before, but the exercise really helps. I was having trouble consistently touching the legs, but concentrating on straightening the leg creates more room for the rotation.
Thanks, Ron
November 24, 2015
Paul WilsonRon,
Glad you liked it. It’s a shift and turn. The turn should be getting the knees to touch. This is a simple way to get used to it and understand the action.
November 23, 2015
DanielFoleyPaul
In the 30 years of me trying to understand the swing this one move was the lightbulb moment for me, and the missing link to putting it all together, along with touching the legs, touching the head (follow through) and powerless arms. Everything else follows this move and to me, the most important lesson of all. I am sure you will put it in Full Swing, and thanks again for this tip!
November 24, 2015
Paul WilsonDaniel,
Different people hear things different ways. This is why I say things differently. All it takes is the one light bulb moment. Let’s see how you do now.
November 28, 2015
AlbertChungI have had difficulties in the past to push the left knee back to straighten the left leg. Looking at the pros in their set up position they seem to have quite an angle between their upper body and their thighs. Trying to copy such a stance had put a lot of pressure on my thigh muscle making it difficult to push the left leg back. This also causes my body to move forward out of balance. I finally found that if I stand up with almost a straight leg taking the pressure off my thighs with just a slight flex on the knees I can now do all the drills you have presented throughout your website and keeping balance as well. I can rotate the hips much faster as well.
November 29, 2015
Paul WilsonAlbert,
Sounds like you were flexing your knees too much. It is just a slight flex until you feel them ready to go.
A New Way To Get The Taller Setup: https://ignitiongolf.com/new-way-taller-setup/
Glad you figured it out. This is very important to power your swing.
December 20, 2015
LenKoblenzHi Paul,
In my front yard today I had a minor revelation. I have had difficulty getting the legs to touch. Today I realized that part of the reason (maybe all of it) is that I had an improper spine angle. When the top of my body leans a little to the right on the follow through, it makes foerces the right leg to touch the left leg. If my body is too upright, the right leg doesn’t make it over to touch the left leg. Does this make sense to you?
Thanks,
Len
December 20, 2015
Paul WilsonLen,
You keep having these revelations. I guess your swing still needs work.
Never heard or seen this before. People don’t touch the legs because they:
– don’t care about the position
– thinking about the ball so they don’t check the position
– hitting with arms
– stance too wide
– sliding
– not shifting weight off the back foot.
If this makes you do it then do it. As you get to the follow through make the position important. Hold it, check it. If it is wrong, fix it. Do it every night at home until you have it mastered. Then work on the other positions. When I give lessons I start with grip, setup and follow through. If you are not doing this start working on it asap. This is the power source in your swing.
Also, narrow you stance. Maybe you are too wide.
Do this drill too:
Lean On Club to Touch Legs: https://ignitiongolf.com/drill-lean-on-club
February 9, 2018
RonKinderI have just joined and Know full well that I am a ball hitter (using my arms) and not my body. However, there was a time while practicing, I felt and did what you call the body swing. In my mind, I found myself having literally no tension in my arms (powerless arms) and I found that my ball striking was incredibly good. I also found that by rotating my body more, the farther my ball carried. So, empirically, I guess I discovered your method on my own about a year or more ago. When I went back out the next day, I was never able to recreate that feeling.That is why I bought into your system and want to learn it!
My difficulty is learning how to touch the knees together. When I am able to do this, I must narrow my stance, considerably. So much so, that I am afraid that when I swing, I will lose my balance. After watching this video, I am beginning to see that the knees actually touch after. your arms are up and the club is at the back of. your head. Is that correct? Because when I try to straighten the back knee in order to get my knees to touch, I find my right foot almost has to come off the ground, toe does not stay on the ground unless my body is totally turned. Am I missing something here? I have a short inseam, 29″, but I am having difficulty executing this drill. Any ideas?
One last thing, Arms! How do we make them stop trying to take over the swing after doing it for 40 years? I had the feeling that one time and have never been able to duplicate it. HELP?!?!
February 9, 2018
Paul WilsonRon,
Good to have you on board.
Admitting it is step 1.
You couldn’t do it the next day because in your mind you were trying to hit shots just as good and as far so the arms crept back in and you got hitting again.
The key to getting the legs to touch is to lock the lead leg. If you keep it bend or your think “shift” you will have trouble. I like narrower rather than wider as you are learning it but you don’t want to be too narrow. As you say you could lose balance (which is not good either).
It’s Like A Throwing Motion: https://ignitiongolf.com/like-throwing-motion/
Secret of the Starting the Downswing (using triggers – off big toe curve): https://ignitiongolf.com/shift-roll/
Lean On Club to Touch Legs: https://ignitiongolf.com/drill-lean-on-club/
At around 3/4 through the lead leg is locked and the legs are almost touching. Just after that they touch first then the club touches the back of the head. So there is a sequence to it.
I have rarely ever had someone not be able to touch. The only ones are either severely bow legged or have a physical ailment and just cannot physically touch. Everyone else who is having an issue is not locking the lead leg.
Exactly How To Do Touch The Legs Position: https://ignitiongolf.com/how-to-touch-the-legs-position/
It’s a Turn Not A Jump: https://ignitiongolf.com/turn-not-jump/
It’s Like A Throwing Motion: https://ignitiongolf.com/like-throwing-motion/
So do it in practice swings nightly. If you are trying to get this just hitting balls it may be tricky. No ball and you can focus on the position and repeat it. If you keep doing something one way enough times you will get rid of the old way.
For right now, you need to build the swing first. As you do you will learn how to use the lower body to power the swing. At that point you can let go with the arms because you know your other power source (legs and hips) is working. Just turning the arms off is great but you may not fire the lower as hard as you should be to generate the power.
So hit less balls so 3 times as many practice swings. Build the swing as I show. At this point you will look like a pro. If so, you then have the right fundamentals. The right fundamentals will allow you to hit amazing shots. Final step turn the arms off completely.