Hello Paul. As usual a good tip, even one I can understand. As suspected I have not had much time to practice what you tried to teach me in my lessons and, as also expected, I find I have gaps in my memory and notes about some of the points you made. So hopefully more lessons next year.
I came back to Sugar Land and my first few scores were higher than normal, although recently the ball striking is better and scoring has improved back to the upper 70s (generally). While I prided myself on my short game prowess, your short game tips (the chip/putt near the green) and nine shots with the three backswing positions with my sand wedge have started to be more comfortable.
I greatly enjoyed the teaching and hoepfully will be able to work with you in the future. Please give my regards to Pete.
Just try to find time to either practice or at least do practice swings at home working on the position. Being a better player it shouldn’t take you that long. Just let us know if you are in town again.
Hi Paul
Have been a member of your excellent website for over a year and I have noticed, in all the tips you do, before every shot you do a waggle or two or three. Does that also help loosening the wrists and arms? What is the purpose, technique and reason for a waggle? Should we all waggle or is a long pause over the ball (which I routinely do) a “death move” as one of my playing partners says? Could you do a tip on “the waggle”? Thanx. Mike
G’day Paul,
Thanks again for a great reminder. Yesterday, we played stroke, I made some fine drives, remembering to get to the top then rotate the hips, with powerless arms. Some errors occurred partly because of the wicked wind. Mostly a satisfying game considering the pin placements for club championships.
Regarding powerless hands and arms, does this amount to hanging slack/limp. I have always felt disconnected with the upper arms from the shoulders when I do this. In other words the arms swing independently of the shoulders and unsatisfactory shots occur. When you speak of arms do you really mean relaxed forearms or the entire arm.
Derek
It amount to hanging at 0 out of 10 power with your grip at 2 out of 10. If your arms are locked up when you start how are you going to turn them off when you hit the ball.
What you are not getting is that there still should be pressure under your armpits when you setup. If you cannot feel this slight pressure you are reaching for the ball.
I have taken a of lessons and I think I work harder than the average person on my game. After 25 years of lessons who would have thought that video lessons that teach you how to power your swing with your lower body would have taught me how to swing a club for the first time in my life. I’m not a great golfer but I have been as low as a 7 handicap which looking back on it is amazing given my lack of true knowledge of how to swing a golf club. I guess there is a lot to be said for persistence. But the point is why make a golf swing work when you can simplify your swing and gain consistency with minimal effort.
I have some ways to go before I truly hone my swing and game but with the knowledge I have now based on all the videos I have watched and used to practice regularly whether on the range or at home I can honestly say I have significantly more confidence because I now understand what is happening and why. I realize that when I will be in a competitive match the pressure may get to me but it won’t be because I don’t understand what is happening which has been the case in the past.
Paul, I have learned more in the last 6 months than I have learned in 25 years. Crazy… I’ve had good teachers but not a single one has ever focused on the true basics of how to swing a golf club by powering with the legs. Again… Crazy! Thank you for your help.
Glad you found us and are making progress. I love hearing it. I just hope more and more people find out about it too. There are so many people who could benefit as well.
Just keep focusing on each piece and make it perfect. To become a 7 hdcp is a great start with a little change and work you should be able to play even better.
LOOSE wrists and POWERLESS ARMS implies that the entire body remains RELAXED and flexible during the swing .
Trying to hit the ball a long way leads to the opposite result .
Hi Paul, I went to the range after just watching 1 video and couldn’t believe the difference, I was hitting the ball lovely. BUT THEN… I started to study the video’s more and more and I’m not hitting the ball sweetly as the 1st time.
I’m now turning correctly but I’m bringing the arms down with pressure and seem to be concentrating more on my arms.
Should my arms just drop down but with 8 and 10 hand grip.
I can’t believe I had it and have now totally lost it. Thanks.
I am getting it about powerless arms. There was a mental tip a few days ago about feeling relaxed by the numbers. That tip and this one, really helped — particularly with my longer fairway clubs. Yesterday I hit a 6 iron that was so beautiful that it should be in the National Gallery of Art. I watched as it arched toward the green and dropped like a stone. The only problem was that it was 5 yards short. BUT, no big deal — I used the chipping technique to get within 5 feet of the hole and putted for par.
Very good. Just keep in mind it is a different feeling. You need to get used to it. If you know this then you can tell it to yourself. If you keep doing the same thing you have always done you will not change anything. Sounds like you are close. Keep at it.
It is not even a drill. It is understanding and the right thoughts and feelings. As soon as you are starting down you are thinking of not hitting anything. Most people are always trying to hit the ball as hard as the can so they do this with the arms. So keep telling yourself not to do this. This took me 3 practice swings to get it. I just said to myself do not hit the ball. If I turn my body my arm will come down.
Also, feel the arm muscles. It’s a totally different feeling to keep the arm muscles turned of that to have them turned on.
You also need to choose a trigger so you are thinking of that to start the swing. If you don’t have a trigger you will probably be thinking of hitting with your arms. So make sure you choose one.
Then it is knowing where you are swing through to. You cannot do the touch the head position if your arms are all locked up. Just split the ears with the club in a fluid path.
Please tell me what your mindset is when hitting the ball with powerless arms. Do you totally ignore what the arms are doing and just concentrate on the legs and hips and the arms just naturally fall down or do you still need to concentrate on what the arms are actually doing. Thanks.
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23 Responses to “Drill: How to Feel Powerless Arms”
November 30, 2012
DavidJonesHello Paul. As usual a good tip, even one I can understand. As suspected I have not had much time to practice what you tried to teach me in my lessons and, as also expected, I find I have gaps in my memory and notes about some of the points you made. So hopefully more lessons next year.
I came back to Sugar Land and my first few scores were higher than normal, although recently the ball striking is better and scoring has improved back to the upper 70s (generally). While I prided myself on my short game prowess, your short game tips (the chip/putt near the green) and nine shots with the three backswing positions with my sand wedge have started to be more comfortable.
I greatly enjoyed the teaching and hoepfully will be able to work with you in the future. Please give my regards to Pete.
David Jones
November 30, 2012
Paul WilsonDavid,
Just try to find time to either practice or at least do practice swings at home working on the position. Being a better player it shouldn’t take you that long. Just let us know if you are in town again.
November 30, 2012
RaoulBintnerSee you next week !
Raoul
November 30, 2012
Paul WilsonRaoul,
Will be great to see you again.
November 9, 2013
MichaelShannonHi Paul
Have been a member of your excellent website for over a year and I have noticed, in all the tips you do, before every shot you do a waggle or two or three. Does that also help loosening the wrists and arms? What is the purpose, technique and reason for a waggle? Should we all waggle or is a long pause over the ball (which I routinely do) a “death move” as one of my playing partners says? Could you do a tip on “the waggle”? Thanx. Mike
November 12, 2013
Paul WilsonMichael,
I’m glad you like the site. Thanks for the feedback.
You are waggling to stay loose and preview the swing you are about to make. Yes, you need to waggle.
I already did a tip on this here:
Waggle: https://ignitiongolf.com/setup-waggle
November 9, 2013
BenG’day Paul,
Thanks again for a great reminder. Yesterday, we played stroke, I made some fine drives, remembering to get to the top then rotate the hips, with powerless arms. Some errors occurred partly because of the wicked wind. Mostly a satisfying game considering the pin placements for club championships.
November 12, 2013
Paul WilsonBen,
Very good. Now you can see what it coming in the future. Just keep at it.
November 10, 2013
DerekReveleyPaul,
Regarding powerless hands and arms, does this amount to hanging slack/limp. I have always felt disconnected with the upper arms from the shoulders when I do this. In other words the arms swing independently of the shoulders and unsatisfactory shots occur. When you speak of arms do you really mean relaxed forearms or the entire arm.
Derek
November 12, 2013
Paul WilsonDerek,
It amount to hanging at 0 out of 10 power with your grip at 2 out of 10. If your arms are locked up when you start how are you going to turn them off when you hit the ball.
What you are not getting is that there still should be pressure under your armpits when you setup. If you cannot feel this slight pressure you are reaching for the ball.
Watch:
How To Check Your Distance From The Ball: https://ignitiongolf.com/distance-from-ball/
Arms Extended: https://ignitiongolf.com/extend-arms-fully
Arms Extended Follow Up/distance from body: https://ignitiongolf.com/arms-extention-follow-up
November 10, 2013
PeterSaI have taken a of lessons and I think I work harder than the average person on my game. After 25 years of lessons who would have thought that video lessons that teach you how to power your swing with your lower body would have taught me how to swing a club for the first time in my life. I’m not a great golfer but I have been as low as a 7 handicap which looking back on it is amazing given my lack of true knowledge of how to swing a golf club. I guess there is a lot to be said for persistence. But the point is why make a golf swing work when you can simplify your swing and gain consistency with minimal effort.
I have some ways to go before I truly hone my swing and game but with the knowledge I have now based on all the videos I have watched and used to practice regularly whether on the range or at home I can honestly say I have significantly more confidence because I now understand what is happening and why. I realize that when I will be in a competitive match the pressure may get to me but it won’t be because I don’t understand what is happening which has been the case in the past.
Paul, I have learned more in the last 6 months than I have learned in 25 years. Crazy… I’ve had good teachers but not a single one has ever focused on the true basics of how to swing a golf club by powering with the legs. Again… Crazy! Thank you for your help.
November 12, 2013
Paul WilsonPeter,
Glad you found us and are making progress. I love hearing it. I just hope more and more people find out about it too. There are so many people who could benefit as well.
Just keep focusing on each piece and make it perfect. To become a 7 hdcp is a great start with a little change and work you should be able to play even better.
Keep up the good work.
November 11, 2013
ALSANTINGPaul
I can recall you giving instructions holding your club at # 7 out of ten and you can still have loose wrists am I mss understanding that instructions
I love machine golf concept and it has helped me a lot
al s
November 12, 2013
Paul WilsonAl,
The tips is holding the club at 8 out of 10 grip pressure at the very top of your swing. You start at 2 out of 10 grip pressure.
Secure Grip Loose Wrists: https://ignitiongolf.com/secure-grip-loose-wrists/
Secure Top of Backswing: https://ignitiongolf.com/secure-top-backswing
March 29, 2014
RaymondCHASTELLOOSE wrists and POWERLESS ARMS implies that the entire body remains RELAXED and flexible during the swing .
Trying to hit the ball a long way leads to the opposite result .
March 30, 2014
Paul WilsonRaymond,
Exactly. Stay relaxed.
May 5, 2017
ChrisHi Paul, I went to the range after just watching 1 video and couldn’t believe the difference, I was hitting the ball lovely. BUT THEN… I started to study the video’s more and more and I’m not hitting the ball sweetly as the 1st time.
I’m now turning correctly but I’m bringing the arms down with pressure and seem to be concentrating more on my arms.
Should my arms just drop down but with 8 and 10 hand grip.
I can’t believe I had it and have now totally lost it. Thanks.
June 27, 2017
LeeDanekerI am getting it about powerless arms. There was a mental tip a few days ago about feeling relaxed by the numbers. That tip and this one, really helped — particularly with my longer fairway clubs. Yesterday I hit a 6 iron that was so beautiful that it should be in the National Gallery of Art. I watched as it arched toward the green and dropped like a stone. The only problem was that it was 5 yards short. BUT, no big deal — I used the chipping technique to get within 5 feet of the hole and putted for par.
June 29, 2017
Paul WilsonLee,
Very good. Just keep in mind it is a different feeling. You need to get used to it. If you know this then you can tell it to yourself. If you keep doing the same thing you have always done you will not change anything. Sounds like you are close. Keep at it.
March 24, 2018
LeoLiskwhat is a good drill for when u swing the club i get to the top and every now then i swing with my arms and it is not pertty
March 25, 2018
Paul WilsonLeo,
It is not even a drill. It is understanding and the right thoughts and feelings. As soon as you are starting down you are thinking of not hitting anything. Most people are always trying to hit the ball as hard as the can so they do this with the arms. So keep telling yourself not to do this. This took me 3 practice swings to get it. I just said to myself do not hit the ball. If I turn my body my arm will come down.
Also, feel the arm muscles. It’s a totally different feeling to keep the arm muscles turned of that to have them turned on.
You also need to choose a trigger so you are thinking of that to start the swing. If you don’t have a trigger you will probably be thinking of hitting with your arms. So make sure you choose one.
Then it is knowing where you are swing through to. You cannot do the touch the head position if your arms are all locked up. Just split the ears with the club in a fluid path.
Are You Cheating In The Follow Through: https://ignitiongolf.com/are-you-cheating/
DRILL: This Is The Best Drill You Should Be Doing Right Now: https://ignitiongolf.com/drill-three-quarter-distance/
Finally, you do this drill constantly:
DRILL: Listen to Club Swinging: https://ignitiongolf.com/drill-listen-to-club/
Up In The Air Drills – Separation: https://ignitiongolf.com/air-drills-separation/
June 21, 2018
ChrisWhitbreadPlease tell me what your mindset is when hitting the ball with powerless arms. Do you totally ignore what the arms are doing and just concentrate on the legs and hips and the arms just naturally fall down or do you still need to concentrate on what the arms are actually doing. Thanks.
June 21, 2018
Paul WilsonChris,
This is what I am thinking about:
Do Not Disturb The Mass: https://ignitiongolf.com/do-not-disturb-the-mass/
What Does Powerless Arms Feel Like?: https://ignitiongolf.com/powerless-arms-feel/