Well put, Paul. This “squat move” taught everywhere on the Internet is disastrous to athleticism in the golf swing. I agree! Glad you did the tip!
“Better players” look like they are “squatting.” Even Paul Wilson looks like he squats if you freeze-frame his swing the nanosecond he starts down (do that, by the way; it’s instructive). He only appears to squat. In fact, Paul ROTATES very naturally and powerfully. His weight is established on his left side immediately coming down (do the “squash a bug move” with your left heel).
Look at Jack Nicklaus. He gets those hands high (rides up with left arm) and then plants his lifted left foot on the ground and THEN TURNS hard on his left side in a rotary fashion.
Better players HIT with their feet and lower body. Arms go along for the ride. Always.
Look also at Lee Trevino, one of the best ball-strikers who ever played. He said he has “amazing legs” that drive through the ball. They do “slide,” (he says that), but note that he push-fades the ball. Exactly the result you get if you slide, as Paul Wilson is teaching. But what a beautiful slide AND weight shift!
Folks, pay attention to this Paul. He knows the swing and will not mislead you – although you will hit a lot of lousy shots learning how to swing like a pro. Don’t give up.
Not saying “we” should be doing the squat move, but I’d sure swear that many of the pros do it. You can see their heads drop, thighs closer to parallel. But they delay the arm swing and make the timing work. It sure seems like more than a “visual” thing to me.
But I’m not a professional and never will be. Still can hit the ball 260 without squatting. So why complicate life?
Well, in no way do I feel a squatting. As I said in the tip I tried an with disastrous results (I have video of my trying it years ago). Fellow member John mentioned some of the great players years ago. You think Nicklaus and Trevino tried to do this move. No chance. I would put my money on them against any player today. Well, Nicklaus anyway.
Bill,
I think I have too much time on my hands to read and comment. Anyway, I thought I would chime in and say that pros do “squat,” but th move is a RESULT of solid fundamentals. Sam Snead’s left leg appeared to open up. I used to try to copy this, and found out if I turned and rotated properly I did it better when I did NOT force the move. So, the squat is not forced; it is the result of a proper downswing movement. Thanks!
Just to be clear, I’m not suggesting that “we” do the squat move. It’s not for me. And probably not for most of “us.” All I’m trying to say is that some of the pros today do it.
Just watch Tiger’s drive in slow motion. You’ll see a big time “squat.”
It doesn’t look as pronounced with this club as I have seen it with a driver. But, nonetheless, his head drops a few inches from the top of his backswing position, so does his belt line. If this drop is not from squatting, what is causing it?
The probleem with video is it can fool you. Video a horse laying down and a a certain point it will appear that the horse sits. However, we know horse do not sit. The squat is the same thing it’s a dynamic movement not a position
Paul is right in saying we should not “endeavor to squat” .It’s to difficult a move to get it ingrained succesfully for the average golfer .That being said ,many great golfers do squat ,BEN HOGAN being the the most obvious demonstrator of the move,(See slow motion pictures of him )so is TIGER WOODS another proponent.
It makes sense to do so ,because the power comes from the ground up as a result of NEWTON’s law “Action and Reaction ” :you push down with your legs and the ground pushes back in reaction :a high jumper ,a pole vaulter squat before elevating themselves in the air,you have to flex slightly your knees to acheive this.
But don’try intentionally …
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17 Responses to “Do Not Squat”
July 1, 2018
pastorjohnbutcherWell put, Paul. This “squat move” taught everywhere on the Internet is disastrous to athleticism in the golf swing. I agree! Glad you did the tip!
“Better players” look like they are “squatting.” Even Paul Wilson looks like he squats if you freeze-frame his swing the nanosecond he starts down (do that, by the way; it’s instructive). He only appears to squat. In fact, Paul ROTATES very naturally and powerfully. His weight is established on his left side immediately coming down (do the “squash a bug move” with your left heel).
Look at Jack Nicklaus. He gets those hands high (rides up with left arm) and then plants his lifted left foot on the ground and THEN TURNS hard on his left side in a rotary fashion.
Better players HIT with their feet and lower body. Arms go along for the ride. Always.
Look also at Lee Trevino, one of the best ball-strikers who ever played. He said he has “amazing legs” that drive through the ball. They do “slide,” (he says that), but note that he push-fades the ball. Exactly the result you get if you slide, as Paul Wilson is teaching. But what a beautiful slide AND weight shift!
Folks, pay attention to this Paul. He knows the swing and will not mislead you – although you will hit a lot of lousy shots learning how to swing like a pro. Don’t give up.
Perfect practice makes perfect golf swings!
July 2, 2018
Paul WilsonJohn,
You got it. Could you imagine telling those great players to purposely squat. Yikes!
July 1, 2018
GLENNWISSEThanks lPaul. I’ve wondered about this move. I never bought into it. Just seems to complicate the swing. The simpler the better.
July 2, 2018
Paul WilsonGlenn,
Exactly. Glad you didn’t try it. I wasn’t so fortunate.
July 1, 2018
BillFreemanPaul,
Not saying “we” should be doing the squat move, but I’d sure swear that many of the pros do it. You can see their heads drop, thighs closer to parallel. But they delay the arm swing and make the timing work. It sure seems like more than a “visual” thing to me.
But I’m not a professional and never will be. Still can hit the ball 260 without squatting. So why complicate life?
Bill
July 2, 2018
Paul WilsonBill,
Well, in no way do I feel a squatting. As I said in the tip I tried an with disastrous results (I have video of my trying it years ago). Fellow member John mentioned some of the great players years ago. You think Nicklaus and Trevino tried to do this move. No chance. I would put my money on them against any player today. Well, Nicklaus anyway.
July 2, 2018
pastorjohnbutcherBill,
I think I have too much time on my hands to read and comment. Anyway, I thought I would chime in and say that pros do “squat,” but th move is a RESULT of solid fundamentals. Sam Snead’s left leg appeared to open up. I used to try to copy this, and found out if I turned and rotated properly I did it better when I did NOT force the move. So, the squat is not forced; it is the result of a proper downswing movement. Thanks!
July 2, 2018
BillFreemanJust to be clear, I’m not suggesting that “we” do the squat move. It’s not for me. And probably not for most of “us.” All I’m trying to say is that some of the pros today do it.
Just watch Tiger’s drive in slow motion. You’ll see a big time “squat.”
Bill
July 3, 2018
Paul WilsonBill,
In no way is he squatting. Here is his 2018 swing in slow mo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGTKW_UbusM
July 3, 2018
GLENNWISSELooks like he’s touching his legs and the back of his head with a straight left leg locked knee. Seems familiar.
July 4, 2018
Paul WilsonGlenn,
He certainly is. Many tour pros do. This is why I teach it.
Pros Are Doing The Same Swing: https://ignitiongolf.com/pros-follow-through-position/
July 3, 2018
BillFreemanIt doesn’t look as pronounced with this club as I have seen it with a driver. But, nonetheless, his head drops a few inches from the top of his backswing position, so does his belt line. If this drop is not from squatting, what is causing it?
July 4, 2018
Paul WilsonBill,
Here you go:
How The Head Moves Down and Past Impact: https://ignitiongolf.com/impact-head/
Also,
Further Understanding of Divots: https://ignitiongolf.com/divot-further-understanding/
Illustrating Why A Divot Is Taken: https://ignitiongolf.com/illustrating-divot/
July 5, 2018
Bob RichterThe probleem with video is it can fool you. Video a horse laying down and a a certain point it will appear that the horse sits. However, we know horse do not sit. The squat is the same thing it’s a dynamic movement not a position
July 5, 2018
Paul WilsonBob,
Right but they are telling people to do it. That is a problem. I did it. Not good.
July 11, 2018
RaymondCHASTELPaul is right in saying we should not “endeavor to squat” .It’s to difficult a move to get it ingrained succesfully for the average golfer .That being said ,many great golfers do squat ,BEN HOGAN being the the most obvious demonstrator of the move,(See slow motion pictures of him )so is TIGER WOODS another proponent.
It makes sense to do so ,because the power comes from the ground up as a result of NEWTON’s law “Action and Reaction ” :you push down with your legs and the ground pushes back in reaction :a high jumper ,a pole vaulter squat before elevating themselves in the air,you have to flex slightly your knees to acheive this.
But don’try intentionally …
July 11, 2018
Paul WilsonRaymond,
They are not and have never thought of squatting though. Big difference.