Paul,
could you elaborate more on the issue of arm rotation, please. I didn’t actually understand and see what needs to be focusing on or how to do it.
Thanks
Hartmut
Thanks Paul, now I got it! Better asked than going into wrong positions, even it might be a minor fact throughout the whole complex swing positions.
Still working on all those with some progress to be seen. It takes a long journey, though. But all your tips are calming me down again and again pushing me back and to stick on all your basic drills.
Thanks for this outstanding work and help. As a golfer you’ll never get to the end, do you?
All I’m really focusing on is to have my swing just be looking as one, not hitting the ball. Tough enogh 😉
Hartmut
Paul: Just finished your book & am starting with your on line tips. They are fantastic! Thanks! Just a question: I have always set up with the clubshaft directly in line with my left arm as Nicklaus suggests. Can you explain why you recommend the hands more centered over the ball in the setup? Thanks!
Glad you to have you on board. Glad you like the tips.
Most of today’s drivers are built to set your hands even or behind the ball. So let your sit flush then build your grip around the club. With irons just look at the bottom of the club. Now set this bottom on a hard surface. If they are non-offset clubs your hand would sit even with the ball. Offset would put them more ahead which. The more ahead of the ball you put your hands the less you can do the neutral grip. Instead you will grip on strong. Just try it. Put your hands way ahead and try to do the neutral grip. You won’t. So what are you going to do? You will grip on the side of the club in strong position. You cannot have loose wrists with a strong grip. If you did you would hook everything. This is why Ping created offset clubs years ago. They go everyone de-lofing, pulling and hooking it due to the hand being too far forward.
Keep in mind that Nicklaus also set up with the face open. This allows the arm/shaft straight line position. Can’t do it with a square face unless your hands are too far ahead nor would you want to.
This is definitely a great tip and is a great example of ‘slowing down to go faster’. Without these fundamentals, is virtually impossible to get consistency. As I have been a believer for over a year now, I still come ‘all the way back’ to the very basics if I start getting inconsistent. It is the only way to quickly reestablish consistency again by variable elimination…something we do in manufacturing all the time (my day job)! Anyway, I love this whole series and am reviewing again and again as I recoup from back problems. Hope to be back to the courses soon.
The basics are vital. Everyone needs to know them and constantly check them but it means taking you out of your comfort zone and developing new habits to check these things. I keep saying it is all about the movement not the ball. Glad you get it.
Hi Paul
Am I right in thinking you dont have an angle between your hands and forearms at setup?
I see a lot of pros that dont have a straight line down the arms and clubshaft and think that helps them get the club set early (which we dont want , right?)
thanks Rob
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12 Responses to “Checkpoints – Setup”
February 8, 2016
KenJohnsonwhat are the 3 things that can go wrong once this is mastered??
February 9, 2016
Paul WilsonKen,
The cure your own swing tips are on the original site and the FULL SWING slide in the dashbaord – 1st slide.
Here you go:
How to Cure the Direction: https://ignitiongolf.com/cure-direction/
How to Cure the Spin: https://ignitiongolf.com/fix-spin-problems/
How to Cure the Contact: https://ignitiongolf.com/cure-contact/
How to Cure Spin and Direction Problems: https://ignitiongolf.com/cure-spin-direction-problems/
How To Fix Your Own Swing: https://ignitiongolf.com/setup-16-things/
February 19, 2016
HartmutPaul,
could you elaborate more on the issue of arm rotation, please. I didn’t actually understand and see what needs to be focusing on or how to do it.
Thanks
Hartmut
February 19, 2016
Paul WilsonHartmut,
Your blood test veins need to be pointed out on about a 45 degree angle not pointing at one another.
February 21, 2016
HartmutThanks Paul, now I got it! Better asked than going into wrong positions, even it might be a minor fact throughout the whole complex swing positions.
Still working on all those with some progress to be seen. It takes a long journey, though. But all your tips are calming me down again and again pushing me back and to stick on all your basic drills.
Thanks for this outstanding work and help. As a golfer you’ll never get to the end, do you?
All I’m really focusing on is to have my swing just be looking as one, not hitting the ball. Tough enogh 😉
Hartmut
February 21, 2016
Paul WilsonHartmut,
Definitely ask. That’s what I’m here for.
Glad you like the tips. Thanks.
You will always be working on your swing until you are happy with how you play or the level you are trying to get too.
Watch this tip:
The Ultimate Goal: https://ignitiongolf.com/the-ultimate-goal/
April 3, 2016
GregHillPaul: Just finished your book & am starting with your on line tips. They are fantastic! Thanks! Just a question: I have always set up with the clubshaft directly in line with my left arm as Nicklaus suggests. Can you explain why you recommend the hands more centered over the ball in the setup? Thanks!
Greg
April 4, 2016
Paul WilsonGreg,
Glad you to have you on board. Glad you like the tips.
Most of today’s drivers are built to set your hands even or behind the ball. So let your sit flush then build your grip around the club. With irons just look at the bottom of the club. Now set this bottom on a hard surface. If they are non-offset clubs your hand would sit even with the ball. Offset would put them more ahead which. The more ahead of the ball you put your hands the less you can do the neutral grip. Instead you will grip on strong. Just try it. Put your hands way ahead and try to do the neutral grip. You won’t. So what are you going to do? You will grip on the side of the club in strong position. You cannot have loose wrists with a strong grip. If you did you would hook everything. This is why Ping created offset clubs years ago. They go everyone de-lofing, pulling and hooking it due to the hand being too far forward.
How Your Grip and Setup Can Get You Shut at the Top of the Backswing: https://ignitiongolf.com/grip-setup-shut-top-backswing/
Keep in mind that Nicklaus also set up with the face open. This allows the arm/shaft straight line position. Can’t do it with a square face unless your hands are too far ahead nor would you want to.
April 30, 2016
KimBozikPaul,
This is definitely a great tip and is a great example of ‘slowing down to go faster’. Without these fundamentals, is virtually impossible to get consistency. As I have been a believer for over a year now, I still come ‘all the way back’ to the very basics if I start getting inconsistent. It is the only way to quickly reestablish consistency again by variable elimination…something we do in manufacturing all the time (my day job)! Anyway, I love this whole series and am reviewing again and again as I recoup from back problems. Hope to be back to the courses soon.
Kim
May 1, 2016
Paul WilsonKim,
The basics are vital. Everyone needs to know them and constantly check them but it means taking you out of your comfort zone and developing new habits to check these things. I keep saying it is all about the movement not the ball. Glad you get it.
August 31, 2020
RobKedgleyHi Paul
Am I right in thinking you dont have an angle between your hands and forearms at setup?
I see a lot of pros that dont have a straight line down the arms and clubshaft and think that helps them get the club set early (which we dont want , right?)
thanks Rob
September 1, 2020
Paul WilsonThere would be a slight angle between the golf club and the arms. You do not want them a perfectly straight angle. Check out this tip:
Paul’s Swing – Analyzing The Setup: https://ignitiongolf.com/pauls-swing-setup/