Dear Paul,
Is it possible to fabricate an abnormally very heavy club, perhaps weighing 3 or even 4 times more than a normal club, just for training purposes to discourage the chicken-wing?
If it’s light-you’re too tight.
If it weighs a lot-then you’ll get the shot.
Ian Bernadt.
I don’t want you to swing a heavy club. These are made by Momentus and have been around for years. If you swing a heavy club your clubs will feel light. This is the opposite to what I want you to feel. If anything you should swing a light club like a kids or ladies club. If so, your clubs would feel heavy which is the correct feeling.
I joined a month ago (Body Swing and Ignition Golf) and I have already seen a huge improvement in my swing. I apply step by step your coaching and despite some frustrations, I never give up and I repeat again and again till the point I work on is OK before going to the next one.
Nevertheless, I always struggle with a slight chicken wing that only appears when I hit a ball. Your tip is truthfully clear, I am at the origin of the chicken wing! So I study videos of my swing to correct this flaw and I discover surprising things:
Doing training swings, my arms are perfectly stretched and my wrists roll and re-hinges without thinking about them. I turn hips better without a ball than with.
I wonder if the chicken wing is not also linked to a too low hips rotation during downswing. If so, I will add more “turn hips” drills to my program.
There are many other tips on the site that address the chicken wing (too many to list) so go to the red navigation bar. To the right type in chicken wing and they will all come up.
Start with them and stay focused. You can get rid of it but it take different feelings and thinking.
Looks like tip part 7 is my favorite and the “Hold Lag Turn hips”. I was so excited that I just tried both at home (first lag and hips then #7) and that was great!
I like the “out control” feeling, that’s exactly what I missed. I felt that the club was on the perfect trajectory by itself. Adding hips rotation has opened the path for the club.
I’m looking forward to training tomorrow at the range. Today was good: straight balls or a light draw (never done this before). 120yds at 60%, 145yds at 80% with 7 iron (more than 80%, push 15yds to 20yds no fade).
Exactly. If your lead arm was bent at setup and you straightened it through impact you would hit the ground behind the ball every time. So yes, make sure they are extended when you set up so you even have a chance to have it extended then both extended just after you hit the ball.
Have her swing your clubs or a ladies club. Hers are too light. If you put a light club in a kids hands now they are going to have the same swing as adults. Need to learn with mom or dads clubs. Never buy kids clubs.
Thanks for this tip. Even as a somewhat better player, I still struggle with this, especially with mid to short irons, probably cause they are lighter!! I can hit beautiful shots, but they tend to go high and shorter for the distance that I expect. I am also not taking a good divot on those, which is telling me that I am not extending. When it is not a good shot, is always a thin or toed shot. I know that just even a little bit of chicken wing will cause all these issues.
So thanks for the addidional and sage advice on how fry the darned chicken wing. I look forward to never hitting chicken wing shots again…especially sporting the new Ignition Golf red shirt! 🙂
You need to lower the flight on the shorter clubs. I have fixed tons of people who were doing this in minutes. You literally do the roll over drill with your sand wedge. You hit about 10 low left hooks then switch to belt buckle and in under 5 mins. you lower the flight and make perfect contact. Give it a try.
Never buy kids clubs?!
I don’t understand your rationale on that statement. Do you not support “The First Tee” program?
Junior clubs are available for our youth as they grow.
Many amateurs just purchase their clubs off the rack and head to the practice tee before they play. I would strongly suggest that whether your clubs are new or used get them fitted.
They are too light. If you put a heavy club in a kids hands they cannot pull it down with the arms. You put a light club in a kids hands and they can pull it down. Now they will have the same swing as an adult which includes over the top, no lag and a chicken wing.
So, I DO NOT support buying kids clubs. They need to start with mom or dad’s clubs cut down.
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15 Responses to “You Are Causing A Chicken Wing”
January 22, 2017
johnhoyleGreetings Coach: thanks for the feedback,i hear you loud and clear.
January 24, 2017
IanBernadtDear Paul,
Is it possible to fabricate an abnormally very heavy club, perhaps weighing 3 or even 4 times more than a normal club, just for training purposes to discourage the chicken-wing?
If it’s light-you’re too tight.
If it weighs a lot-then you’ll get the shot.
Ian Bernadt.
January 24, 2017
Paul WilsonIan,
I don’t want you to swing a heavy club. These are made by Momentus and have been around for years. If you swing a heavy club your clubs will feel light. This is the opposite to what I want you to feel. If anything you should swing a light club like a kids or ladies club. If so, your clubs would feel heavy which is the correct feeling.
DRILL: If the Club Feels Light You Are Too Tight: https://ignitiongolf.com/light-too-tight/
Drill: Make the Club Feel Heavy: https://ignitiongolf.com/make-club-feel-heavy/
July 24, 2018
Frederic DeyrieuxPaul,
I joined a month ago (Body Swing and Ignition Golf) and I have already seen a huge improvement in my swing. I apply step by step your coaching and despite some frustrations, I never give up and I repeat again and again till the point I work on is OK before going to the next one.
Nevertheless, I always struggle with a slight chicken wing that only appears when I hit a ball. Your tip is truthfully clear, I am at the origin of the chicken wing! So I study videos of my swing to correct this flaw and I discover surprising things:
Doing training swings, my arms are perfectly stretched and my wrists roll and re-hinges without thinking about them. I turn hips better without a ball than with.
I wonder if the chicken wing is not also linked to a too low hips rotation during downswing. If so, I will add more “turn hips” drills to my program.
What is your opinion on this point?
Thank you for your help.
An happy golfer thanks to you! 🙂
Frederic
July 24, 2018
Paul WilsonFrederic,
So glad you are improving. It’s exciting.
The chicken wing has your forearms muscles contracting. You are doing this:
Chicken Wing Logic: https://ignitiongolf.com/chicken-wing-logic/
There are many other tips on the site that address the chicken wing (too many to list) so go to the red navigation bar. To the right type in chicken wing and they will all come up.
Start with them and stay focused. You can get rid of it but it take different feelings and thinking.
July 24, 2018
Frederic DeyrieuxPaul,
Thank you for your quick reply.
Looks like tip part 7 is my favorite and the “Hold Lag Turn hips”. I was so excited that I just tried both at home (first lag and hips then #7) and that was great!
I like the “out control” feeling, that’s exactly what I missed. I felt that the club was on the perfect trajectory by itself. Adding hips rotation has opened the path for the club.
I’m looking forward to training tomorrow at the range. Today was good: straight balls or a light draw (never done this before). 120yds at 60%, 145yds at 80% with 7 iron (more than 80%, push 15yds to 20yds no fade).
Frederic
July 25, 2018
Paul WilsonFrederic,
Very good. Glad you found one. Just be patient. These are new feelings and it takes many repetitions to do it without thinking.
August 2, 2018
JosephPerezI find I’m more apt to produce a chicken-wing if I neglect to have my arms properly (fully) extended at address.
August 4, 2018
Paul WilsonJoseph,
Exactly. If your lead arm was bent at setup and you straightened it through impact you would hit the ground behind the ball every time. So yes, make sure they are extended when you set up so you even have a chance to have it extended then both extended just after you hit the ball.
August 3, 2018
Henrik BechHansenHi Poul,
I have a daughter on 5.5 year old, she is having the chicken wing in her swing. How would you learn a kid not to do this?
Thanks
BR / Henrik
August 4, 2018
Paul WilsonHenrik,
Have her swing your clubs or a ladies club. Hers are too light. If you put a light club in a kids hands now they are going to have the same swing as adults. Need to learn with mom or dads clubs. Never buy kids clubs.
August 3, 2018
KimBozikPaul,
Thanks for this tip. Even as a somewhat better player, I still struggle with this, especially with mid to short irons, probably cause they are lighter!! I can hit beautiful shots, but they tend to go high and shorter for the distance that I expect. I am also not taking a good divot on those, which is telling me that I am not extending. When it is not a good shot, is always a thin or toed shot. I know that just even a little bit of chicken wing will cause all these issues.
So thanks for the addidional and sage advice on how fry the darned chicken wing. I look forward to never hitting chicken wing shots again…especially sporting the new Ignition Golf red shirt! 🙂
Kim
August 4, 2018
Paul WilsonKim,
You need to lower the flight on the shorter clubs. I have fixed tons of people who were doing this in minutes. You literally do the roll over drill with your sand wedge. You hit about 10 low left hooks then switch to belt buckle and in under 5 mins. you lower the flight and make perfect contact. Give it a try.
August 26, 2018
RichardPettengillNever buy kids clubs?!
I don’t understand your rationale on that statement. Do you not support “The First Tee” program?
Junior clubs are available for our youth as they grow.
Many amateurs just purchase their clubs off the rack and head to the practice tee before they play. I would strongly suggest that whether your clubs are new or used get them fitted.
I look forward to your response,
Rich Pettengill
August 26, 2018
Paul WilsonRichard,
They are too light. If you put a heavy club in a kids hands they cannot pull it down with the arms. You put a light club in a kids hands and they can pull it down. Now they will have the same swing as an adult which includes over the top, no lag and a chicken wing.
So, I DO NOT support buying kids clubs. They need to start with mom or dad’s clubs cut down.
How Do Little Kids Hit the Ball So Well?: https://ignitiongolf.com/kids-golf-swing/
Does Turning Off Arms Create Lag?: https://ignitiongolf.com/powerless-arms-create-lag/
2 Minutes To Perfect Lag: https://ignitiongolf.com/2-minutes-perfect-lag/