Dave, Paul!
Everybody should hear and see that! It tells all the stories happening day out and day in!
It’s exactly what we hear at every PAR3 when it’s getting jammed during turnaments but also during private rounds of golf. If just one person is coming up with it everybody or almost everybody in that group is joining the choir! And you could bet on it the tee shots are going to be like you said – suboptimal.
One question, do I lose energy if I stop my flight partners right away? Or should I just unlink my self from it and try to focus on better things?
Hope you’re saying that I’m gaining energy by stopping them …
Thanks a lot!
Reiner
Dave and Paul,This is quite an usuel occurrence ,everywhere ,in any country .It ‘s easy to overcome :first don’t listen to those who whine (Usually my wife !),LOok at the flowers ,the birds ,the scenery ,practise Paul’s ” Favorite exersises “,,chip balls around ,never ,ever look at the GROUP in front who’s delaying you ,take deep Breaths ,You have all your Time to play ,nobody is expecting you ,etc,etc…
Of course it’s better to play at a brisk rate ,but you have to remain focused .
Some of this could be controlled by the course ranger, assuming there is one. If things are backing up, the course should take some responsibility considering the fact that they book the tee times often at 7 min. intervals which to me is too short for foursomes. All players are not at the same ability levels & those of lesser ability can be counted on to cause backups. Where I play, the pace of play expected is 15 min. per hole. Also, there’s the issue of slow players not allowing faster players to play thru, especially if the group ahead is a foursome, & the group behind is a twosome. What you’ll always hear is “there’s another 4 ahead of us so you’re not going anywhere anyway”. My answer to that is that the next foursome should also allow a twosome to play thru. I’ve even run into this when playing by myself. A 3 or foursome won’t let a single play thru. This is obviously an etiquette issue which should be should be common sense but apparently isn’t. If you haven’t already, please do a tip on player etiquette. Perhaps the slowpokes will get the message.
As much as rangers are out there they haven’t been able to stop this problem yet and never will especially on long par 3’s. Just got to wait it out but not get frustrated.
Greetings Gentlemen As usual great tip but what i enjoy as much as and maybe more is the two of you together. To me your interaction with each other makes the tip easier to grasp hold of Do more
Such great advise not just in golf but in life too when you are behind a slow driver a que in a super market etc all it does is frustrate you and you get tense
Thanks Dave and thank you Paul.
There is a time Sergio Garcia used to take too long over the ball.
Once he was paired with Tiger. I noticed whenever it was Sergio’s turn to play, Tiger would look away and chat with his caddie. Now having listened to Dave, it makes a lot of sense.
Thanks again.
Paul,
Are you familiar with THE biomechanics OF golf ? Each OF us being More or less unique ,we can’t swing THE same way .
I’ve read a study on this where THE main parameters were
– height compared to wingspan ( distance between THE tips OF THE fingers ,ARMS extended horizontally )
– length OF forearm compared to length OF upper arm .
THE study leads to recommend an upright swing ,a shoulder swing ,or a HIP swing .
I found my own swing by trial and error ,measuring THE swing speed with THE radar .
It seems I have an ” upright shoulder swing ” ,which means I take back THE club in a Line with THE target Line ,and m’y ARMS are roughly parallell to THE shoulders in THE backswing .
THE study covers most top today Golfers ,from JIM FURYK ,to RORY Mc ILROY And others .
I haven’t seen the study. What I am focuses on is circular body rotation, an unrestricted hinge and a constant forward tilt (spine angle). These are the 3 elements of the Iron Byron and 3 elements in all great swings. So when people say there isn’t 1 swing they are wrong. There is one swing that incorporates those elements. Each pro then adds his/her own flare to those 3 elements.
Paul ,I do as you say ( With GREAT benefit to m’y golf ,thank you ) .THE circular ,swift ,Motion OF THE hips is a result – From what I have read on Golf Biomechanics )- to a strong lower body ,combined with strong abdominals .THE shoulder rotaters Play a lesser rôle .I am tôld .I should have known this as in every throwing sport ( évén boxing or fencing ) it’s from THE ground up .
So I have taken to work More on THE glutes ,quadriceps and THE muscles in THE back OF THE upper leg ( I just can’t remember their name ) ,together with THE POWER HIP ROTATOR ( Rubber bands around THE waist while swinging THE club )
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19 Responses to “David and Paul – What To Do While You Are Waiting”
August 5, 2014
KennethMoffatWhat I do is use the opportunity to practise a little chipping.
August 5, 2014
ReinerMackDave, Paul!
Everybody should hear and see that! It tells all the stories happening day out and day in!
It’s exactly what we hear at every PAR3 when it’s getting jammed during turnaments but also during private rounds of golf. If just one person is coming up with it everybody or almost everybody in that group is joining the choir! And you could bet on it the tee shots are going to be like you said – suboptimal.
One question, do I lose energy if I stop my flight partners right away? Or should I just unlink my self from it and try to focus on better things?
Hope you’re saying that I’m gaining energy by stopping them …
Thanks a lot!
Reiner
August 5, 2014
RaymondCHASTELDave and Paul,This is quite an usuel occurrence ,everywhere ,in any country .It ‘s easy to overcome :first don’t listen to those who whine (Usually my wife !),LOok at the flowers ,the birds ,the scenery ,practise Paul’s ” Favorite exersises “,,chip balls around ,never ,ever look at the GROUP in front who’s delaying you ,take deep Breaths ,You have all your Time to play ,nobody is expecting you ,etc,etc…
Of course it’s better to play at a brisk rate ,but you have to remain focused .
August 5, 2014
MichaelRodrickSome of this could be controlled by the course ranger, assuming there is one. If things are backing up, the course should take some responsibility considering the fact that they book the tee times often at 7 min. intervals which to me is too short for foursomes. All players are not at the same ability levels & those of lesser ability can be counted on to cause backups. Where I play, the pace of play expected is 15 min. per hole. Also, there’s the issue of slow players not allowing faster players to play thru, especially if the group ahead is a foursome, & the group behind is a twosome. What you’ll always hear is “there’s another 4 ahead of us so you’re not going anywhere anyway”. My answer to that is that the next foursome should also allow a twosome to play thru. I’ve even run into this when playing by myself. A 3 or foursome won’t let a single play thru. This is obviously an etiquette issue which should be should be common sense but apparently isn’t. If you haven’t already, please do a tip on player etiquette. Perhaps the slowpokes will get the message.
August 6, 2014
Paul WilsonMichael,
As much as rangers are out there they haven’t been able to stop this problem yet and never will especially on long par 3’s. Just got to wait it out but not get frustrated.
August 5, 2014
johnhoyleGreetings Gentlemen As usual great tip but what i enjoy as much as and maybe more is the two of you together. To me your interaction with each other makes the tip easier to grasp hold of Do more
August 6, 2014
Paul WilsonJohn,
It is about timing. We will do more if we have time.
August 12, 2014
Martin BarrySuch great advise not just in golf but in life too when you are behind a slow driver a que in a super market etc all it does is frustrate you and you get tense
August 13, 2014
Paul WilsonMartin,
Good thinking. I need to follow this in life too!
August 13, 2014
LenKoblenzI almost enjoy these situations. They don’t bother me, but they may bother my opponents. A nice advantage to have.
August 13, 2014
Paul WilsonLen,
I like having advantages over playing partners. It gives you room to mess up and still win.
August 28, 2014
Sergio CamargoPaul,
It was so good to see you laughing!
Sergio
August 28, 2014
Paul WilsonSergio,
David is quite the character so we usually have a good time when we shoot tips together.
Glad you liked it. Thanks.
August 16, 2016
ERIABBERAThanks Dave and thank you Paul.
There is a time Sergio Garcia used to take too long over the ball.
Once he was paired with Tiger. I noticed whenever it was Sergio’s turn to play, Tiger would look away and chat with his caddie. Now having listened to Dave, it makes a lot of sense.
Thanks again.
August 16, 2016
RaymondCHASTELPaul,
Are you familiar with THE biomechanics OF golf ? Each OF us being More or less unique ,we can’t swing THE same way .
I’ve read a study on this where THE main parameters were
– height compared to wingspan ( distance between THE tips OF THE fingers ,ARMS extended horizontally )
– length OF forearm compared to length OF upper arm .
THE study leads to recommend an upright swing ,a shoulder swing ,or a HIP swing .
I found my own swing by trial and error ,measuring THE swing speed with THE radar .
It seems I have an ” upright shoulder swing ” ,which means I take back THE club in a Line with THE target Line ,and m’y ARMS are roughly parallell to THE shoulders in THE backswing .
THE study covers most top today Golfers ,from JIM FURYK ,to RORY Mc ILROY And others .
August 17, 2016
Paul WilsonRaymond,
I haven’t seen the study. What I am focuses on is circular body rotation, an unrestricted hinge and a constant forward tilt (spine angle). These are the 3 elements of the Iron Byron and 3 elements in all great swings. So when people say there isn’t 1 swing they are wrong. There is one swing that incorporates those elements. Each pro then adds his/her own flare to those 3 elements.
August 17, 2016
RaymondCHASTELPaul ,I do as you say ( With GREAT benefit to m’y golf ,thank you ) .THE circular ,swift ,Motion OF THE hips is a result – From what I have read on Golf Biomechanics )- to a strong lower body ,combined with strong abdominals .THE shoulder rotaters Play a lesser rôle .I am tôld .I should have known this as in every throwing sport ( évén boxing or fencing ) it’s from THE ground up .
So I have taken to work More on THE glutes ,quadriceps and THE muscles in THE back OF THE upper leg ( I just can’t remember their name ) ,together with THE POWER HIP ROTATOR ( Rubber bands around THE waist while swinging THE club )
August 17, 2016
RaymondCHASTELPaul ,And also THE ” unrestricted HINGE ” you mention : DUSTIN JOHNSON hinges very much his left wrist at THE top OF THE backswing .
August 18, 2016
Paul WilsonRaymond,
Unfortunately, he bows his wrists too. This is why he has to drive his hips extra hard.