Chair Drill – To Eliminate Chicken Wing

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Paul Wilson is the creator of Swing Machine Golf and founder of Ignition Golf. Paul's golf swing technique is based on the Iron Byron swing machine. YouTube Channels: Paul Wilson Golf and Ignition Golf Tips. Please Join me on Google+

26 Responses to “Chair Drill – To Eliminate Chicken Wing”

  1. February 5, 2014

    DennisStephens

    Paul, I do not understand what path the club is on? Is the club to be pointed at a particular spot on the chair at the end on the stretch of the arms? Help

    • February 5, 2014

      Paul Wilson

      Dennis,

      The chair is off my left hip. At his point in the swing it would be parallel to the target line.

  2. February 5, 2014

    JuneBigge

    What about the take-away swing. Should we try to keep the left arm straight on that. Stiffer and straight or let it do what comes naturally with shoulder and upper turn or what?
    Should we try to get it extended in the opposite direction of this clip as far as possible on take away or let it swing around naturally.
    Once I am sure what the take-away should be, I will be better to practice this drill with a chair.

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    February 5, 2014

    Henry

    This drill combined with the left knee connected with string really helped two weak points in my swing…just like you said, it takes a while but eventually you get it…thanks Paul!

    • February 5, 2014

      Paul Wilson

      Henry,

      Glad you are getting it. Just get the pieces. Once you put them all together you get the whole picture. Keep at it.

  4. February 5, 2014

    RaymondCHASTEL

    Paul,In previous vid

    • February 6, 2014

      Paul Wilson

      Raymond,

      Why would I say that. This is halfway through. This is not the whole follow through. Of course your elbows have to bend when you get to the follow through. There is no way to do it if you don’t. Here you are swinging at the chair. That’s it. If you get this and the club keeps going to the follow through it should split the ears.

      At this point, the clubshaft would be parallel to the target line.

      How can people make such a simple drill so difficult? Just try to hit the chair. That’s it. If you do your arms will stretch out. There is nothing more to it. It is a drill.

  5. February 5, 2014

    RaymondCHASTEL

    Paul ,I have a question not related to this drill.
    It concerns THE preparatory rotation going back.
    I played THE day before yesterday with a fairly good player:though I hit my drives fairly long off THE TEE-230 Yards in average-this player was outdriving me by a mile:his shots were 270 Yards .
    H

    • February 6, 2014

      Paul Wilson

      Raymond,

      This is not a backswing drill. It is a through swing drill. Do what you do going back. I don’t care. What I do care about is if your arms are extending through and past impact as I am showing in this drill. When you are working on backswing positions you would be thinking of backswing positions.

      Was this guy you played with 80 years old? I think you are doing well for your age. If he is bigger with more strength he is hitting harder using brute force. Let’s pout him beside me where I swing at what appears like half his speed and hit it by him all day. It is not strength it is technique. I keep saying this.

      You should be loosening your wrists and turning faster. That is all there is to it. If you are 80 and you cannot turn any faster then that’s all you’ve got. Work on loosening the wrists more.

    • October 19, 2017

      drj0420

      MAYBE HE WAS A MUCH BETTER PLAYER THAN YOU !

      • October 19, 2017

        RaymondCHASTEL

        To drj0420.The better player is not the one who sends the ball the farther from off the tee ,it’s the one who puts it in the hole with the less shots .See DUSTIN JOHNSON vs JORDAN SPIETH ,who’s the longer and who’s the best in the short game .
        PAUL RUNYAN was considerably shorter off the tee than SAM SNEAD ,yet he won by a a large margin in a memorable match play event.
        Of course it helps to shoot the ball further than your opponent and you should strive to maximize your length by all means ,but you can overcome any player if you approach better and put better .At age 83,I beat quite often young huge players such as my grandsons ,using my mental skills,better course management and excellent short game

  6. October 15, 2014

    MichaelRodrick

    Hi Paul;
    I was talking with another golfer at the driving range who gave me a tip on how to achieve this as well as to release the club fully which is the flaw in my swing. All you have to do is use a split grip. Start with the bottom hand touching the shaft below the grip while keeping the top hand in it’s normal position & swing thru from a half swing position. Then gradually move the bottom hand up the shaft towards your top hand keeping the split grip until you get back to the normal grip position. It works really well. You can also hit balls with this grip but only with 1/4 to 1/2 shots until you have your extension where it needs to be consistently. If you feel this is a good drill, I hope you would consider using it in a future video.

    • October 15, 2014

      Paul Wilson

      Mike,

      This may work for you while others it does not. If it were that easy everyone would be releasing it.

      I did the split grip as a lag tip a long time ago:

      Old But Good Lag Drill: https://ignitiongolf.com/old-good-lag-drill/

      If it works for you keep doing it. I have most success getting people to release it from the top.

  7. January 2, 2015

    JohnSteen

    Paul,

    I have followed you for a while now and has absolutely been a better golfer with a better swing. The last months I have to say that most of your new stuff are old video’s showet with just a little differensiert way. Do you have any plans covering such tings as sequence and rythm in the swing, new drills to work on lag ? If I do rotate faster with my hips i see that the shoulders rotate faster too and the centrifugal power make me to loose a lot of lag. I miss some more stuff on sequencig and rytm in the swing and new ways to do drills.

    Best regards John

    • Dear Mr JOHN STEEN ,Sorry for my interfering ,but Paul’s going to jump in the air with your comment :if you turn faster forwards in the throughswing and you don’t “manipulate the arms “(“POWERLESS ARMS ” ), they drag behind longer (At least the right upper forearm which controls the lag ) and the lag increases with the speed of the turn..
      At least that’s what happens to me ..
      Paul showed a few days ago a wonderful drill for the wrists (Clubhead from ear to ear )wich gives you a lovely “zip ” in your end swing

    • January 4, 2015

      Paul Wilson

      John,

      I am going to try to shoot more tips this week.

      If you are driving the hips faster you need to do so after you get the ball hooking. If your wrist release is timed for a slower golf swing and you only turn up your body speed you going to push or push fade it. So you roll it early. Get it hooking. At this point you are releasing it too early. Once you can do this, you start to straighten it out with more body (legs and hips). Once you get used to this then you start turning your arms off.

      https://ignitiongolf.com/release-progression/
      https://ignitiongolf.com/downswing-how-much-legs/

      Tempo

      How to Get Consistent Swing Tempo: https://ignitiongolf.com/consistent-swing-tempo/
      Tempo: https://ignitiongolf.com/golf-swing-tempo/

  8. January 3, 2015

    PETERMCMULLEN

    Paul,

    I am more consistently taking a divot on the course or the range, which I believe is a good thing. With this inside drill I find I must stand taller of at least not have as much constant forward lean, or I will hit the floor with the club. Comments? Looking forward to visiting with you one month from today.

    • January 4, 2015

      Paul Wilson

      Peter,

      You should be swinging slightly off the ground when swinging indoors. In other words you are working on the moves not trying to hit anything. So stand taller as you do these indoor drills then lower once you get to the range and hit actual golf balls.

      If you go to the range and you are hitting fat shots while working on widening the arc this is a good thing. Most people see this as a bad thing. It is goo because it is telling you that you are widening your arc. The problem is you are only working on arms when you are doing this so you are getting trapped with the weight on the back foot when you hit the ball. So keep widening by letting the arms stretch out then feel the wight get off the back foot through impact to cure the fat shots.

      Watch:

      Love Fat Shots: https://ignitiongolf.com/love-fat-shots/

      See you soon.

  9. January 3, 2015

    TimothyKelly

    Thank you and Happy New Year, Paul.
    NOW, I finally understand the/my chicken wings problem.
    Back in 2001 I was told I had chicken wings???
    With many different teachers, I never heard about it again. With my inconsistent performance
    I was never sure of my swing. Playing 18 holes, I realized the last 9 holes my distance was better and control improved. I now realize that I was relaxing and lengthening my swing with my whole body and easy off of my chicken wings. When I watched your video I now understand the body mechanics better.
    Thank you.

    • January 4, 2015

      Paul Wilson

      Timothy,

      That’s great that you are understanding it. It is rare if I see an average player who does not have a chicken wing versus pros who don’t have a one.
      So this is a very important in taking your swing to a new level. As you loosen the weight of the club stretches your arms out. If they are stretch out to the maximum then it has to be more powerful and consistent because you only have 1 widest arc.

      As you keep working on this just keep trying to feel the club getting heavier and heavier. This is the tell-tale sign you are doing it right. If the club feels light you are too tight.

  10. Paul,Concerning tempo of the swing ,could you issue some guidelines on what ‘s to be looked after ?
    With the SSRTT ,m’y tempo from beginning to the end of the swing is around 1,60 s .
    This is m’y” NATURAL ” tempo ,and I don’t know how it breaks down between backswing / downswing .
    It seems slow compared to what I read ,but I feel” comfortable ” with it .
    What’s YOUR opinion ?

  11. Paul,There’s another innovative contraption ,called ” THE SWING SMART ” you FIX on your club and which gives a number of informations on YOUR swing ,to be seen on your IPAD ,IPHONE ,shape ,angle of attack , etc .
    It may answer m’y question on tempo .

  12. January 4, 2015

    JohnSteen

    Paul,

    I am looking forward to your new tips. I have been looking at several other golf schools on internet, Among others, rotaryswing golf. They have a differerent approach to the swing, for example wheight shift but also how to use the arms and the sequence of the swing. It was specially looking at the sequencing that I understood that my shoulders started rotating too fast from the start and that i am loosing a lot of lag with doping my fast shoulders turn.
    But I am gong to continue with you approach. Though I have a golf buddie who use his arms and hit way longer that me. I gjuess it is because I am not doping tings the right way. It would be interesting if you could make a video comparing just showing the swing with a strait arm and do it with a club in a spilt screen.
    Think you to you Raymond for your comment, my comment was not meant as any critics, I have really been a better golfer following Paul 🙂

  13. Hi Paul. Can you comment on the position of your left shoulder when your right arm is parallel to the ground at the 3/4 point? The shoulder appears to be high and back to clear and allow your left arm to remain relatively straight and not buckle. Thank you. -Russ

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