Top of the Backswing Cupped or Flat?

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  1. DavidJones, 2 months ago

    Paul, although not related to your tip, during the slow motion portions of your tip I put a pen at the the top center of your head to watch its movement. Interestingly on the downswing your head drops several inches. I have always tried to hold my head steady on the downswing (although I know it moves some) without a similar movement. Is that slight dropping something one should strive for, and, if so, it could serve as a possible tip. It does not appear you intentionally make that move, it just seems to happen.

    I look forward each day to your tips. Best regards and perhaps I can make it to Vegas this year for some more of your excellent one on one training.

    David

    • Paul Wilson

      Paul Wilson, 2 months ago

      David,

      Glad you like the tips. I appreciate the feedback.

      A lot of this head dropping is due to my body angling more behind the ball in the downswing. I am also staying focused on where they ball is which is tucking my chin. I have never worked or even thought of this. I comes with working on the proper lower body action in your downswing and obviously not coming out of it when you contact the ball.

      So make sure you are following my downswing and uncoiling tips while turning your arms off. Never try to keep your head still. The head moves back going back it may move a little forward in the downswing then it moves back again and the club approaches impact. It stays there until the lead is arm is a 3/4 through then it moves forward so you can get to the balanced position over the forward leg into the follow through.

      Here you go:

      Move Head: http://ignitiongolf.com/move-head-back

      Impact Head Behind Ball: http://ignitiongolf.com/impact-head

      Stop Fat Shots When Working On Moving Your Head: http://ignitiongolf.com/fat-shots-moving-your-head/

      Uncoil 1: http://ignitiongolf.com/uncoil

      Uncoil 2: http://ignitiongolf.com/uncoil-follow-up

  2. ChuckBaumgarner

    ChuckBaumgarner, 2 months ago

    Do pros use these different positions to shape shots?


  3. RaymondCHASTEL, 2 months ago

    I wouldnt Like to intrude on THE response Paul Will undoubtly give to Mr David Jones ,but this drop at THE beginning OF THE downswing is to be seen in all THE swings OF THE Great Champions .
    Jim Mc LEAN in his book THE COMPLETE HOGAN shows this move in Great détail .
    You CAN train to master it :it does give additional power from THE ground up .(You kind OF ” spring up” )
    But you should be already a single digit handicap to include it in your swing :there are more important basics to master before!


  4. RaymondCHASTEL, 2 months ago

    Sorry,I mistakenly said THE backswing ,THE drop occurs at THE start OF THE throughswing ,OF course !


  5. TIMADAMS, 2 months ago

    I’ll be darned if i can see differences in your wrist positions BUT what I do see is differences in the club shaft and face from the correct shots to the incorrect ones

    • Paul Wilson

      Paul Wilson, 2 months ago

      Tim,

      The bones in my wrist stop it from overcupping at the top. This is a good thing but many years ago I fought a bowed wrist ala Tom Lehman at the top. Just follow the tip and work on the right grip and a slight cupping at the top.


  6. RaymondCHASTEL, 2 months ago

    Paul ,This is THE very best démonstration OF THE cupped /flat wrist position at THE top OF THE back swing I have ever seen !
    It boils down to THE Fact that if you have THE propre left hand grip and you don’t manipulate THE wrists during THE backswing ,letting them go naturally with THE arms ,THE cupped position just happens by itself .
    To be noted though that in your slow Motion video ,your left wrist is very ,very slightly cupped !

    • Paul Wilson

      Paul Wilson, 2 months ago

      Raymond,

      Glad you liked it. There is a reason you should be doing everything in the swing. Just takes some understanding and figuring out. Using the Iron Byron allows me to do his for most things. This one is just logic.


  7. HarveyKirk, 2 months ago

    Great instructional video on a problem I may have and need to work on. In the past I have been told that my lead wrist should be slightly bowed, but when trying to do that is is very awkward and I always feel like I am slightly cupped. I can’t wait to get in front of a mirror and maybe I don’t have the cupping problem and only have what you call a slightly cupped position. I will continue to make sure I have a two knuckle grip and continue to follow your sage guidance and advice. Thank you.

    • Paul Wilson

      Paul Wilson, 2 months ago

      Harvey,

      You should never be purposely trying to bow this wrist. As I explained the wrist should be cupped anyway. This is relative to your grip and if you are manipulating the club as you go back. Glad you are going to work on it. Now, you should eliminate this uncomfortable feeling at the top.


  8. CodyCusick, 2 months ago

    Paul just wanted to say thank you! Powerless arms is finally paying off. I have dropped 10 strokes in the last 2 weeks. I have got my swing to where I don’t think about my arms at all. From the time I set up I am only thinking about touching the legs and my shots almost feel effortless win tremendous results! When I finished my round yesterday. I wanted to play again!

    • Paul Wilson

      Paul Wilson, 2 months ago

      Cody,

      That’s great news. It is different. In fact, it is the opposite to what people want to do so until they get used to it they will go right back to a swing that does not work. Now that you have felt the difference stay focused on it. So days will be better than others while you are developing a great swing but as you see the feeling of powerless arms gives you so much more power with little effort.

      Don’t fall into this trap:

      Lose Your Swing: http://ignitiongolf.com/lose-your-golf-swing

      You Will Top It: http://ignitiongolf.com/you-will-top-it/


  9. DavidAnderson, 2 months ago

    Thx for everything Paul
    In my mirror looking to my right I notice my hands are barely shoulder height at the top. Barely above my shoulder. I’d like to get them closer to my R ear. Any thoughts? Thx.


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