Paul ,one of the most important building blocks of YOUR méthod .
It’s excellent .
HANK HANEY advocates a flat plane ,an in to out swing ,very much to the right when going in the throughswing .
I tried it ,it does give me more Clubhead Speed ,but It’s not NATURAL for me ,and I feel uncomfortable with it .
M’y swing is more ” I take the club back ,and then I take it through ” ,it’s linéar ,not circular ( WELL a wee bit circular with this driving the hips of yours )
Should I stay as I am ,or change ?
The circular will come from your body rotation. You should not be swinging flat. Not one long driver does this type of swing. I tried it many years ago and I lost power and hit it right.
Hello,
Just watching this video first time and it appears to be that timing the hip turn with the rotation of the wrists and then having to purposefully speed up one to catch up to the other is a recipe for disaster as one is taking a number of fairly complex motions and then making it even more complex by adding a timing variable. I cannot help but wonder if I will be able to do this especially as I am very right handed dominant (but golfing left handed) and can’t hit a hook to save my life. Please advise. Thank you.
I have done this for thousands of students with no disasters. Within minutes, I have them hitting it dead straight so you need to immediately remove this thought that you can’t do it.
You need to see the simplicity of it. Instead you are seeing the complexity. I used to think that way. When I did I go nowhere for 10 years. Thinking simple got my swing back.
See the spin and the direction.
The roll over fixes the spin. The body rotation fixes the direction.
So you are rolling it from the top to get the spin (hook). If you hook it you are no longer a slicer. If you were no longer slicing it do you think I would be telling you to hook it? No. I would see you are having the spin but you are on the wrong direction. So I would be working body to straighten it out. This is down with simple physics of mass swinging around and axis. Turn and axis and mass will move towards 90 degrees 100% of the time.
So if you were at the top and instead of trying to roll it you started you body first you would hit it dead straight. This is a fact.
You do this over and over at the range and daily at home until you can hook it. Once you do you are no longer a slicer. I have had people master this in 4 repetitions. So in other words master the spin first. You are slicing it so your wrists are way too tight. Doing the roll over unlocks you wrists. This is step 1. You cannot get to step 2 until you get step 1.
Paul,
I saw a slow Motion video of RICKIE FOWLER:in his downswing ,hé seems to bring the club closer to his body than other players .If true ( I’m not sure!),this would contradict my assumption ,developed above ,That the club MOVES faster in a circular Motion around the axis constituted by the body.Does RICKIE FOWLER have a différent swing than the ” classical ” GOLFERS ,such as RORY Mc ILROY?
Paul, I wish I would have known about you 13 yrs. ago when I first took up golf. I made every error there is. That gentleman mentioned Ricky Fowler’s arms close to the body. I assume they are attached and his body is the main motor swinging his arms. I always used to his the ball fat because I was an arm swinger. Now, it is rare for me to hit it fat because my body moves the club more on line. I broke 100 after I started listening to your tips and drills. I got my friend started with you and we always say to each other that Paul said this.
I have been doing like you suggested and have been taking three practice swings and then hit the ball, my greens in regulation have improved so much I couldn’t believe how much more consistent I’ve been.
Good stuff. I say everything for a reason. Now you know why I wanted you to do 3 practice swings. It’s all about the movement not the ball. Hope everyone else sees this and starts doing it too.
Hello Paul
I have practiced relaxing my wrists and letting them turn on their own as well I have been trying to extend my arms forward toward the target. seem to work well with irons but with the driver almost all my shots are going or hooking left (I’m right handed) I do feel that I am turning my hips first but I must not be doing it enough or perhaps incorrectly. When I play I aim more to the right to compensate but I know that is not the answer. Do yo have any tips to help me?
You need to turn your hips way faster to get ahead of the club coming down or your grip is too strong. If you are hooking it without trying to hook it this is a good indication of a grip issue.
Hi Paul,
For right now i am just trying to get my arms powerless and my wrists loose and hit with my legs. IF i ever get to that point where it is an unconscious act, i will try to swing faster, but then this tip sounds like i have to impose that action of roll over on my arms and wrists, which contradicts the powerless aspect. Is the thought to make that rolling over so ingrained that you can eventually turn your brain off to it and get back to the powerless arms and loose wrists?
thanks,
ter
So yes, you roll, roll roll until you get rid of all slice spin. I have literally had people do this in 4 balls. Then you let the roll happen and use your legs to straighten it out.
Hello Paul. I have been following you for a while now and I am coming along slow but sure. Thank you for the the help. I am an average to better player now. I always hook my driver when I place the ball at my left heel. If I bring it back to maybe a 7 iron position they go dead straight or maybe a slight fade. Is this a sign that my legs ad hips are not turning fast enough? Or should I just continue to have the ball back for a while. I am in my mid sixties and maybe I just can’t turn fast.
Don
Paul, l feel that when I speed up my hip rotation, my wrist release speeds up as well and I haven’t as yet had to consciously roll my wrists over early…..it seems to work fine….Does that sound right to you?
Great tip, I do practice swings indoors with a short heavy weight club ( no face on it just a weight.) Since it’s so heavy it slows everything down. I wonder if this is doing me any good and should I do the early release, even though the swing is in slower motion?
Don L
I’ve always had a point of confusion about this tip. I can manually roll my wrists over earlier in the downswing to create a hook, but when I turn my arms off, they naturally turn over closer to imoact, as usual. So do I need to keep activating them earlier when I turn my hips faster to create more clubhead speed? Also, how can I produce lag if I’m rolling my wrists over before my hands reach my back leg? Wouldn’t I be casting when I start to roll my arms over?
You are going to “feel” the roll over. You are going to “think” hips. It is a distinct feeling to roll it over. So it should be easy to memorize it. You could also roll roll roll and gradually start adding legs until it goes straight.
No you would not be casting. You cannot roll it over if you do the roll because this would re-hinge the wrists. What do you need for lag? Answer: loose wrists.
I can’t believe you haven’t mastered the roll over yet. You need to really make this part of your practice until you never have to think about it again.
You are completely right – the issue is grip. I sent video in to Pete to look at my swing, and he noted that he felt me grip was too strong based on my clubhead looking shut at the top; I was pretty surprised by this because I have spent a considerable amount of time watching the top-hand grip tip, but in fact I had the grip on incorrectly. I was holding the club in my fingers with the top hand, which was forcing a manipulation at impact, and I was either push fading with very little power because I couldn’t release the club, or hitting massive pull-hooks. Needless to say, after getting my index down to a 7.7 last year, that was extremely disappointing; however, all of your tremendous instruction clicked in my mind, and within a day I was able to self-diagnose that I wasn’t releasing the club properly, and went back to the top hand grip video, and issues are largely gone (other than a little pushy/slicey with driver; hence this tip and my release work).
You are a god-send sir! I will be honest, it has taken me many many months of deliberate effort with your method – hitting balls almost every day, for months – sometimes getting the powerless arms, then losing it, then getting it back again – which at times was incredibly frustrating. But when I get into a groove and am hitting the ball consistently with my body, it is a distinct and pure feeling and I know I am hitting the ball as it was meant to be hit!
Glad you figured out the grip. I worked on this for 3 years so I know how tough it is. That finger left hand grip is terrible and there actually people telling golfers to do this.
Stay focused and make the change. With the new grip hinge and re-hinge constantly until it is smooth:
Sounds like you are close to a huge breakthrough. Just tell yourself at the top to not pull it down. Your arms aren’t going to stay up there forever if you start the lower first.
Hi Paul, THIS REALLY WORKS!! Yesterday I went down to the local park and hit 30 golf balls. I was disgusted with the results. I was only getting 100 yards from my six iron. That was the best for those 30 balls – I was so frustrated.
Today I went to the park again and hit 40 balls but I followed your tip above. I hit 30 balls hooking the shot as you recommended. I then went back to hitting the balls using powerless arms and BINGO! I got 120 yards from my seven iron. I know that this seven iron result is not good but it has given me the incentive to press on. Paul, I am so grateful for your timely help. JOHN J.
This tip makes immense sense in that it explains why I will sometimes hit that dreaded fade. The synchronization between coiling and rolling my wrists results in longer and straighter shots.
My question is what is desirable timing on my takeaway? Thanks to you, I just purchased a Swing Speed Radar unit and want to derive maximum benefit from it.
Thanks for all your on-line instruction! You are helping lots of us play better golf.
Glad you like the tips. Thanks for the kind words.
You would be taking it away with your body coil not your arms so the desirable takeaway speed would be based on how fast you are coiling. Good tempo on the SSR would be over 1 second. I think I am 1.2 Been a while since I measured it. Anyone under 1 second is too fast.
Thank you, Paul! I will monitor and measure my backswing using what you have stated. Now, with your coiling/hinging tips,especially after watching your work with Kevin, I hope to generate more club speed/distance and accuracy. At 75 years young and in pretty good shape, I hope I can get consistently in the 220-230 range with my 10.5 degree driver. Am I being unreasonable?
I so appreciate the timeliness of your responses to subscribers. This is a value add to the great tips you provide all of us!
This is easily do able because this is not on the fly. This is 190 -200 on the fly with 30 yards roll. So you nee the right thought. 230 is a totally different thought.
Again, thanks for your prompt and informative feedback, Paul! I will review the drills and strive to apply them. As an aside, I played a round in 38 degree weather here in New England and did hit several of my drives approaching my goal. Can’t wait for warmer weather and shedding the bulky clothes!
This makes perfect sense to me. What do you think about over speed training? I know some pros use the speed sticks, but then again they are pros. Would love to know your thoughts. Thanks.
Hi Paul, I went to the driving range a week ago Saturday, and was doing terrible, couldn’t figure out what I was doing wrong. I came home and practiced with wiffle golf balls and was inconsistent, I’ve been doing this all day long for 11 days, hit good shots and bad. I just watched this video and understood why I wasn’t doing well. My timing was off, I would try and turn my hips faster to hit farther. I slowed down my hips and got into a good tempo and now I am making great contact every single time, no mishits. I’ll keep this tempo for a while until I am comfortable and consistent, then I’ll try and speed up my hips as you explained in this video. Take it slow for best results. Thanks again, you are the greatest.
Glad you figured it out and are on track. 11 days is nothing. Try figuring it out and getting nowhere every day for 10 years. Not fun. I like your thought. Just get it first. Then speed it up as I say in that tip. One step at a time.
THANKS FOR RESPONDING TO MY EMAIL. I WAS PLAYING YESTERDAY AND MY IRONS WERE WORKING FINE WITH YOUR METHOD, BUT THE DRIVER WAS MOSTLY “PUSHED TO THE RIGHT”. MY COLLEAGUE COULD SEE THAT MY HIPS WERE WAY OUT AHEAD OF MY HANDS AND ARMS, IE. THE OPEN FACE.
HIS RECOMMENDATION WAS TO KEEP MORE OF MY WEIGHT ON MY LEFT LEG AND WHEN I DID THIS, I BEGAN TO CRUSH THE DRIVER. HOWEVER, THIS JUST DID NOT SEEM LIKE THE WAY TO CORRECT THIS SITUATION. AND THAT IS WHY I EMAILED YOU TODAY. IT MAKES SENSE TO START ROLLING THE WRIST SOONER AND MATCHING IT UP TO THE FASTER LOWER BODY TURN.
I WILL PRACTISE BY ROLLING THE WRISTS SOONER UNTIL I AM CONSISTENTLY HOOKING THE BALL AND THEN WORK ON MATCHING THE HIPS WITH THE SOONER ROLLOVER.
I would think you were actually pulling it after doing that so the shots appeared to be well hit. With the weight on this leg it would have been tough to drive them too hard but this seems like a band aid so you need to be careful.
Yes, master the roll over. You can do this at home nightly. In other words you do not have to wait to get to the range. In no time you rarely ever hit it right at this point you have mastered the release. At this point I would never tell you to roll it over. Now you would move on to your body rotation to straighten it out.
Struggling a little – can’t seem to isolate on an effective “trigger” to start uncoil, thus, I’m left, left. Then I will post up the knees on a good swing and fail to fully release to guard from going left. Ugh…
Understand the firing of the lower tilts the upper back to create the path from the inside. If that is the goal and you are not good at firing then manually tilt and work on the lower later.
I am struggling with “blocked shots” when I use the powerless arms method. I feel that my body outraces my arms. I can do the drill of hitting hooks through an early release of the club. But when I keep my arms powerless during my normal swing, they are so far behind that an early release doesn’t seem to help – I still hit steeply and to the right (sometimes even behind the ball).
I’ve heard some instructors advocate moving the left arm out away from the torso during the downswing, in order to improve the timing, but this obviously violates the concept of “don’t do anything to manipulate the arms.”
So you have not memorized the feeling of releasing the club early. So you need to keep feeling them and rolling them manually until you are good at it. There is no point blowing it right.
The feeling of rolling versus not rolling is dramatically different so anyone should be able to get this in a few balls. I have had someone master it in 4 repetitions. So you need to key in on this feeling. You need to be doing more rolls hitting more hooks. Once you get it hooking you don’t driver the lower as hard as you can. Why not add a little more body? If so, it will not go as far left. You add a little more and so on until the shots are straight.
You could and should be doing this roll over at home daily. Do it thousands and thousands of times until you are good at it.
Paul, I have been having a lot of success with the drill. The hook immediately straightened out as I fired my hips. My best shots when I was last practicing were when I would fire my hips quickly but in the back of my mind I felt like I was letting the toe of the club turn at the ball way early as you suggest in the drill. In other words my arms are powerless but as they fly through I feel like letting the toe of the club turn toward the ball right away. Do you think it is OK to look at it that way or could that lead to problems. I want to stress the point enough. I am letting the toe of the club pointToward the ball at what feels like quite a bit before the ball. I hit it real good doing it that way and I’m wondering if I could think of it that way on the golf course I plan to try that tomorrow ,am I on the right track? Thanks Brad
This is fine for now. Just realize you are trying to do the roll over until you rarely every put slice spin on it. Once you get to that point, you are only ever thinking body. I am just worried that you will over do it and hit hooks even though you are firing the body. So be careful. I don’t think you’re going to be thinking like this forever but enjoy the better shots as you are.
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47 Responses to “Golf Swing Timing For More Distance”
June 8, 2015
RaymondCHASTELPaul ,one of the most important building blocks of YOUR méthod .
It’s excellent .
HANK HANEY advocates a flat plane ,an in to out swing ,very much to the right when going in the throughswing .
I tried it ,it does give me more Clubhead Speed ,but It’s not NATURAL for me ,and I feel uncomfortable with it .
M’y swing is more ” I take the club back ,and then I take it through ” ,it’s linéar ,not circular ( WELL a wee bit circular with this driving the hips of yours )
Should I stay as I am ,or change ?
June 8, 2015
Paul WilsonRaymond,
The circular will come from your body rotation. You should not be swinging flat. Not one long driver does this type of swing. I tried it many years ago and I lost power and hit it right.
October 18, 2017
JeraldDavisPaul,
I didn’t see this tip before my cry for help. Maybe this a good thing.
Jerry
June 29, 2018
jeffchanHello,
Just watching this video first time and it appears to be that timing the hip turn with the rotation of the wrists and then having to purposefully speed up one to catch up to the other is a recipe for disaster as one is taking a number of fairly complex motions and then making it even more complex by adding a timing variable. I cannot help but wonder if I will be able to do this especially as I am very right handed dominant (but golfing left handed) and can’t hit a hook to save my life. Please advise. Thank you.
June 29, 2018
Paul WilsonJeff,
I have done this for thousands of students with no disasters. Within minutes, I have them hitting it dead straight so you need to immediately remove this thought that you can’t do it.
You need to see the simplicity of it. Instead you are seeing the complexity. I used to think that way. When I did I go nowhere for 10 years. Thinking simple got my swing back.
See the spin and the direction.
The roll over fixes the spin. The body rotation fixes the direction.
So you are rolling it from the top to get the spin (hook). If you hook it you are no longer a slicer. If you were no longer slicing it do you think I would be telling you to hook it? No. I would see you are having the spin but you are on the wrong direction. So I would be working body to straighten it out. This is down with simple physics of mass swinging around and axis. Turn and axis and mass will move towards 90 degrees 100% of the time.
So if you were at the top and instead of trying to roll it you started you body first you would hit it dead straight. This is a fact.
2 Things Flatten the Plane: https://ignitiongolf.com/2-things-flatten-plane/
So you are rolling it from the top until it hooks. You can do that by doing any of these ways:
DRILL: 3 Ways To Roll It Over: https://ignitiongolf.com/3-ways-to-roll/
Roll Around The Stick: https://ignitiongolf.com/roll-around-stick/
Clarifying the Roll Over Drill: https://ignitiongolf.com/clarifying-roll-drill/
You do this over and over at the range and daily at home until you can hook it. Once you do you are no longer a slicer. I have had people master this in 4 repetitions. So in other words master the spin first. You are slicing it so your wrists are way too tight. Doing the roll over unlocks you wrists. This is step 1. You cannot get to step 2 until you get step 1.
Then you focus on body rotation.
Take a look here as I fix 9 people’s slices: http://www.howtocureaslice.com/
You don’t have to buy the product as you already know it.
June 14, 2015
RaymondCHASTELPaul,
I saw a slow Motion video of RICKIE FOWLER:in his downswing ,hé seems to bring the club closer to his body than other players .If true ( I’m not sure!),this would contradict my assumption ,developed above ,That the club MOVES faster in a circular Motion around the axis constituted by the body.Does RICKIE FOWLER have a différent swing than the ” classical ” GOLFERS ,such as RORY Mc ILROY?
June 14, 2015
Paul WilsonRaymond,
No idea what video you were looking at. He is going to Harmon now so he’s making some better changes.
June 14, 2015
KennthBovaPaul, I wish I would have known about you 13 yrs. ago when I first took up golf. I made every error there is. That gentleman mentioned Ricky Fowler’s arms close to the body. I assume they are attached and his body is the main motor swinging his arms. I always used to his the ball fat because I was an arm swinger. Now, it is rare for me to hit it fat because my body moves the club more on line. I broke 100 after I started listening to your tips and drills. I got my friend started with you and we always say to each other that Paul said this.
June 14, 2015
Paul WilsonKen,
Not sure what he was referring to as I did not see the video.
I made every mistake too. Not fun when you have no clue what to work on nothing you try works.
Thank you for the recommendation. I truly appreciate it.
September 1, 2015
CharlesGokeeI have been doing like you suggested and have been taking three practice swings and then hit the ball, my greens in regulation have improved so much I couldn’t believe how much more consistent I’ve been.
September 1, 2015
Paul WilsonCharles,
Good stuff. I say everything for a reason. Now you know why I wanted you to do 3 practice swings. It’s all about the movement not the ball. Hope everyone else sees this and starts doing it too.
September 21, 2015
DonaldPugsleyHello Paul
I have practiced relaxing my wrists and letting them turn on their own as well I have been trying to extend my arms forward toward the target. seem to work well with irons but with the driver almost all my shots are going or hooking left (I’m right handed) I do feel that I am turning my hips first but I must not be doing it enough or perhaps incorrectly. When I play I aim more to the right to compensate but I know that is not the answer. Do yo have any tips to help me?
September 21, 2015
Paul WilsonDonald,
You need to turn your hips way faster to get ahead of the club coming down or your grip is too strong. If you are hooking it without trying to hook it this is a good indication of a grip issue.
Hooking: https://ignitiongolf.com/cure-hooking
Make sure you are doing these drill nightly:
DRILL: Swing Off Ground: https://ignitiongolf.com/drill-swing-off-ground
DRILL: My Favorite Drill – Variation 2: https://ignitiongolf.com/favorite-drill-variation-2/
DRILL: Swing Off Ground Variation: https://ignitiongolf.com/drill-variation-favorite-drill/
DRILL: Listen to Club Swinging: https://ignitiongolf.com/drill-listen-to-club
DRILL: How To Really Increase Power: https://ignitiongolf.com/how-to-really-increase-power/
October 28, 2015
terrybadgerHi Paul,
For right now i am just trying to get my arms powerless and my wrists loose and hit with my legs. IF i ever get to that point where it is an unconscious act, i will try to swing faster, but then this tip sounds like i have to impose that action of roll over on my arms and wrists, which contradicts the powerless aspect. Is the thought to make that rolling over so ingrained that you can eventually turn your brain off to it and get back to the powerless arms and loose wrists?
thanks,
ter
October 28, 2015
Paul WilsonTerry,
I have said many times if you are working on a position or drill you will feel your arms. Once you master what you are trying to do you turn them off.
When To Use Your Arms: https://ignitiongolf.com/when-to-use-arms/
So yes, you roll, roll roll until you get rid of all slice spin. I have literally had people do this in 4 balls. Then you let the roll happen and use your legs to straighten it out.
October 30, 2015
DonaldPugsleyHello Paul. I have been following you for a while now and I am coming along slow but sure. Thank you for the the help. I am an average to better player now. I always hook my driver when I place the ball at my left heel. If I bring it back to maybe a 7 iron position they go dead straight or maybe a slight fade. Is this a sign that my legs ad hips are not turning fast enough? Or should I just continue to have the ball back for a while. I am in my mid sixties and maybe I just can’t turn fast.
Don
August 4, 2017
JoeContrerasHi,
Is the sensation that you wrists feel like a whip on the downswing?
Regards,
Joe
April 5, 2018
RandMellorPaul, l feel that when I speed up my hip rotation, my wrist release speeds up as well and I haven’t as yet had to consciously roll my wrists over early…..it seems to work fine….Does that sound right to you?
April 5, 2018
DonLocharyGreat tip, I do practice swings indoors with a short heavy weight club ( no face on it just a weight.) Since it’s so heavy it slows everything down. I wonder if this is doing me any good and should I do the early release, even though the swing is in slower motion?
Don L
April 5, 2018
YutakaMatsumotoWould setting up with a closed head work as well .
April 6, 2018
Paul WilsonYutaka,
No. That would be a band aid. We don’t do band aids here. Square face only.
April 5, 2018
WillCooperI’ve always had a point of confusion about this tip. I can manually roll my wrists over earlier in the downswing to create a hook, but when I turn my arms off, they naturally turn over closer to imoact, as usual. So do I need to keep activating them earlier when I turn my hips faster to create more clubhead speed? Also, how can I produce lag if I’m rolling my wrists over before my hands reach my back leg? Wouldn’t I be casting when I start to roll my arms over?
April 6, 2018
Paul WilsonWill,
You are going to “feel” the roll over. You are going to “think” hips. It is a distinct feeling to roll it over. So it should be easy to memorize it. You could also roll roll roll and gradually start adding legs until it goes straight.
No you would not be casting. You cannot roll it over if you do the roll because this would re-hinge the wrists. What do you need for lag? Answer: loose wrists.
I can’t believe you haven’t mastered the roll over yet. You need to really make this part of your practice until you never have to think about it again.
DRILL: Smooth Wrist Release: https://ignitiongolf.com/smooth-wrist-release/
Modified Roll Over Drill: https://ignitiongolf.com/modified-roll-over-drill/
April 6, 2018
JonathanComptonHi Paul, Donald Pugsley’s question from October 30, 2015 is mine also—I’m 65 and as I read his question, your reply didn’t show. Thanks! Jon Compton
April 6, 2018
Paul WilsonJohnathan,
If you are hooking it without trying to hook it you have a grip problem.
Hooking: https://ignitiongolf.com/cure-hooking/
April 7, 2018
StevenFarberHi Paul,
You are completely right – the issue is grip. I sent video in to Pete to look at my swing, and he noted that he felt me grip was too strong based on my clubhead looking shut at the top; I was pretty surprised by this because I have spent a considerable amount of time watching the top-hand grip tip, but in fact I had the grip on incorrectly. I was holding the club in my fingers with the top hand, which was forcing a manipulation at impact, and I was either push fading with very little power because I couldn’t release the club, or hitting massive pull-hooks. Needless to say, after getting my index down to a 7.7 last year, that was extremely disappointing; however, all of your tremendous instruction clicked in my mind, and within a day I was able to self-diagnose that I wasn’t releasing the club properly, and went back to the top hand grip video, and issues are largely gone (other than a little pushy/slicey with driver; hence this tip and my release work).
You are a god-send sir! I will be honest, it has taken me many many months of deliberate effort with your method – hitting balls almost every day, for months – sometimes getting the powerless arms, then losing it, then getting it back again – which at times was incredibly frustrating. But when I get into a groove and am hitting the ball consistently with my body, it is a distinct and pure feeling and I know I am hitting the ball as it was meant to be hit!
Here’s to a great season.
Cheers,
Steve
April 8, 2018
Paul WilsonSteven,
Glad you figured out the grip. I worked on this for 3 years so I know how tough it is. That finger left hand grip is terrible and there actually people telling golfers to do this.
Stay focused and make the change. With the new grip hinge and re-hinge constantly until it is smooth:
DRILL: Smooth Wrist Release: https://ignitiongolf.com/smooth-wrist-release/
Sounds like you are close to a huge breakthrough. Just tell yourself at the top to not pull it down. Your arms aren’t going to stay up there forever if you start the lower first.
April 6, 2018
JOHN JACOBSENHi Paul, THIS REALLY WORKS!! Yesterday I went down to the local park and hit 30 golf balls. I was disgusted with the results. I was only getting 100 yards from my six iron. That was the best for those 30 balls – I was so frustrated.
Today I went to the park again and hit 40 balls but I followed your tip above. I hit 30 balls hooking the shot as you recommended. I then went back to hitting the balls using powerless arms and BINGO! I got 120 yards from my seven iron. I know that this seven iron result is not good but it has given me the incentive to press on. Paul, I am so grateful for your timely help. JOHN J.
April 6, 2018
Paul WilsonJohn,
It sure does work. I prove it every day. Glad you tried it and experienced it.
April 6, 2018
RonaldAregladoHi, Paul,
This tip makes immense sense in that it explains why I will sometimes hit that dreaded fade. The synchronization between coiling and rolling my wrists results in longer and straighter shots.
My question is what is desirable timing on my takeaway? Thanks to you, I just purchased a Swing Speed Radar unit and want to derive maximum benefit from it.
Thanks for all your on-line instruction! You are helping lots of us play better golf.
Ron Areglado
April 6, 2018
Paul WilsonRonald,
Glad you like the tips. Thanks for the kind words.
You would be taking it away with your body coil not your arms so the desirable takeaway speed would be based on how fast you are coiling. Good tempo on the SSR would be over 1 second. I think I am 1.2 Been a while since I measured it. Anyone under 1 second is too fast.
April 7, 2018
RonaldAregladoThank you, Paul! I will monitor and measure my backswing using what you have stated. Now, with your coiling/hinging tips,especially after watching your work with Kevin, I hope to generate more club speed/distance and accuracy. At 75 years young and in pretty good shape, I hope I can get consistently in the 220-230 range with my 10.5 degree driver. Am I being unreasonable?
I so appreciate the timeliness of your responses to subscribers. This is a value add to the great tips you provide all of us!
Ron
April 8, 2018
Paul WilsonRonald,
This is easily do able because this is not on the fly. This is 190 -200 on the fly with 30 yards roll. So you nee the right thought. 230 is a totally different thought.
How To Hit It 250 or Longer: https://ignitiongolf.com/how-to-hit-it-250/
Do this drill constantly:
DRILL: Listen to Club Swinging: https://ignitiongolf.com/drill-listen-to-club/
DRILL: How To Really Increase Power: https://ignitiongolf.com/how-to-really-increase-power/
DRILL: Swing Up with Driver: https://ignitiongolf.com/drill-swing-up-driver/
April 10, 2018
Ronald AregladoAgain, thanks for your prompt and informative feedback, Paul! I will review the drills and strive to apply them. As an aside, I played a round in 38 degree weather here in New England and did hit several of my drives approaching my goal. Can’t wait for warmer weather and shedding the bulky clothes!
Appreciatively,
Ron
April 11, 2018
Paul WilsonRon,
That’s chilly. If you see a few good ones right now that is great. I will get even better when you are not wearing 3 jackets.
April 6, 2018
GLENNWISSEThis makes perfect sense to me. What do you think about over speed training? I know some pros use the speed sticks, but then again they are pros. Would love to know your thoughts. Thanks.
April 6, 2018
Paul WilsonGlenn,
That’s fine but you have to hook it first. Again, increase the body speed and you will blow it right.
April 10, 2018
Robert BilardoHi Paul, I went to the driving range a week ago Saturday, and was doing terrible, couldn’t figure out what I was doing wrong. I came home and practiced with wiffle golf balls and was inconsistent, I’ve been doing this all day long for 11 days, hit good shots and bad. I just watched this video and understood why I wasn’t doing well. My timing was off, I would try and turn my hips faster to hit farther. I slowed down my hips and got into a good tempo and now I am making great contact every single time, no mishits. I’ll keep this tempo for a while until I am comfortable and consistent, then I’ll try and speed up my hips as you explained in this video. Take it slow for best results. Thanks again, you are the greatest.
April 12, 2018
Paul WilsonRobert,
Glad you figured it out and are on track. 11 days is nothing. Try figuring it out and getting nowhere every day for 10 years. Not fun. I like your thought. Just get it first. Then speed it up as I say in that tip. One step at a time.
April 11, 2018
RonKinderTHANKS FOR RESPONDING TO MY EMAIL. I WAS PLAYING YESTERDAY AND MY IRONS WERE WORKING FINE WITH YOUR METHOD, BUT THE DRIVER WAS MOSTLY “PUSHED TO THE RIGHT”. MY COLLEAGUE COULD SEE THAT MY HIPS WERE WAY OUT AHEAD OF MY HANDS AND ARMS, IE. THE OPEN FACE.
HIS RECOMMENDATION WAS TO KEEP MORE OF MY WEIGHT ON MY LEFT LEG AND WHEN I DID THIS, I BEGAN TO CRUSH THE DRIVER. HOWEVER, THIS JUST DID NOT SEEM LIKE THE WAY TO CORRECT THIS SITUATION. AND THAT IS WHY I EMAILED YOU TODAY. IT MAKES SENSE TO START ROLLING THE WRIST SOONER AND MATCHING IT UP TO THE FASTER LOWER BODY TURN.
I WILL PRACTISE BY ROLLING THE WRISTS SOONER UNTIL I AM CONSISTENTLY HOOKING THE BALL AND THEN WORK ON MATCHING THE HIPS WITH THE SOONER ROLLOVER.
RON KINDER
April 12, 2018
Paul WilsonRon,
I would think you were actually pulling it after doing that so the shots appeared to be well hit. With the weight on this leg it would have been tough to drive them too hard but this seems like a band aid so you need to be careful.
Yes, master the roll over. You can do this at home nightly. In other words you do not have to wait to get to the range. In no time you rarely ever hit it right at this point you have mastered the release. At this point I would never tell you to roll it over. Now you would move on to your body rotation to straighten it out.
DRILL: Smooth Wrist Release: https://ignitiongolf.com/smooth-wrist-release/
Roll Around The Stick: https://ignitiongolf.com/roll-around-stick/ (go in the backyard and roll around a tree)
I’ll get you there just keep doing the drills etc.
April 14, 2018
DanKueblerStruggling a little – can’t seem to isolate on an effective “trigger” to start uncoil, thus, I’m left, left. Then I will post up the knees on a good swing and fail to fully release to guard from going left. Ugh…
April 15, 2018
Paul WilsonDan,
Understand the firing of the lower tilts the upper back to create the path from the inside. If that is the goal and you are not good at firing then manually tilt and work on the lower later.
Cures – Manually Tilt To Stop Pulling: https://ignitiongolf.com/manually-tilt-cure-pull/
Watch Back of The Golf Ball: https://ignitiongolf.com/watch-backside-golf-ball/
So you do either of those and get the tilt then you work on firing the lower.
June 22, 2018
KeithBeddingfieldPaul,
I am struggling with “blocked shots” when I use the powerless arms method. I feel that my body outraces my arms. I can do the drill of hitting hooks through an early release of the club. But when I keep my arms powerless during my normal swing, they are so far behind that an early release doesn’t seem to help – I still hit steeply and to the right (sometimes even behind the ball).
I’ve heard some instructors advocate moving the left arm out away from the torso during the downswing, in order to improve the timing, but this obviously violates the concept of “don’t do anything to manipulate the arms.”
Any suggestions?
Thanks,
Keith
June 23, 2018
Paul WilsonKeith,
So you have not memorized the feeling of releasing the club early. So you need to keep feeling them and rolling them manually until you are good at it. There is no point blowing it right.
The feeling of rolling versus not rolling is dramatically different so anyone should be able to get this in a few balls. I have had someone master it in 4 repetitions. So you need to key in on this feeling. You need to be doing more rolls hitting more hooks. Once you get it hooking you don’t driver the lower as hard as you can. Why not add a little more body? If so, it will not go as far left. You add a little more and so on until the shots are straight.
You could and should be doing this roll over at home daily. Do it thousands and thousands of times until you are good at it.
DRILL: Smooth Wrist Release: https://ignitiongolf.com/smooth-wrist-release/
So roll it more. Memorize the feeling.
Get it hooking then gradually apply more lower until the shots are straight. If you push it immediately hook the next shot and build it back up again.
Roll it at home daily.
July 18, 2018
BradleyDanylukPaul, I have been having a lot of success with the drill. The hook immediately straightened out as I fired my hips. My best shots when I was last practicing were when I would fire my hips quickly but in the back of my mind I felt like I was letting the toe of the club turn at the ball way early as you suggest in the drill. In other words my arms are powerless but as they fly through I feel like letting the toe of the club turn toward the ball right away. Do you think it is OK to look at it that way or could that lead to problems. I want to stress the point enough. I am letting the toe of the club pointToward the ball at what feels like quite a bit before the ball. I hit it real good doing it that way and I’m wondering if I could think of it that way on the golf course I plan to try that tomorrow ,am I on the right track? Thanks Brad
July 19, 2018
Paul WilsonBradley,
This is fine for now. Just realize you are trying to do the roll over until you rarely every put slice spin on it. Once you get to that point, you are only ever thinking body. I am just worried that you will over do it and hit hooks even though you are firing the body. So be careful. I don’t think you’re going to be thinking like this forever but enjoy the better shots as you are.