Swing Plane – Upright or Flat?
By Paul Wilson at November 20, 2012 | 11:23 pm |
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jimmarlow, 7 months ago
Paul
My typical shot with your method is a fairly straight shot with a cut. My divots with irons appear to be a little too much outside/in and the ball is struck with the toe if the club. I have been trying to stand up taller and closer to the ball and that has helped me hit the ball more in the center of the club, but that causes me to swing more upright which creates a cut.
My question is; would you recommend that I try to tilt my body on the downswing as you indicated in this video or is it more likely a problems with my arms/wrists not being soft enough?
Thanks
Jim
Paul Wilson, 7 months ago
Jim, if you are toeing it you are raising up through impact. This would be an indication of trying to hit it too hard. So keep the arms powerless and work on this position:
Spine Angle Follow Through: http://ignitiongolf.com/follow-through-eyes-tilted
Another reason would be hitting the ball off of your heels so make sure you check your weight distribution through impact.
The over the top is due to hitting with arms which is not keeping you behind it. So tilting back would be advisable while keeping the wrists loose. Your body should be staying behind it when you use your legs but you may have to help it a little by staying back manually.
richmosney, 7 months ago
I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO CLUE AS TO WHICH METHOD I SHOULD FOCUS ON,,I’M 5’10″,185 LBS,WITH VERY LITTLE FLEXIBILITY DUE TO 45YRS OF BODY BUILDING,,SOME ADVICE/RECOMMENDATION PLEASE!!!
Paul Wilson, 7 months ago
Rich,
Take a look in a mirror which would allow you to see the down the line view of your swing. Hold your top of the backswing position. If your lead arm is above the shoulder line you are a 2 plane swinger. If your lead arm is level with your shoulders you are a one plane swinger.
I prefer a more upright swing. This does not mean you have to be too upright but a little higher than the shoulders.
Into the future keep working on coiling and uncoiling your body. This is the main power source. The arms should be powerless and wrists loose.
Start with grip and setup videos. Then move on to these:
Coiling: http://ignitiongolf.com/learn-coil-backswing
Uncoil 1: http://ignitiongolf.com/uncoil
Uncoil 2: http://ignitiongolf.com/uncoil-follow-up
Legs Touching: http://ignitiongolf.com/touch-knees
mikeplummer, 7 months ago
Hi Paul,
Would you say Iron Byron has an upright or flat plane? Have a Happy Thanksgiving!
Thanks, Mike
Paul Wilson, 7 months ago
Mike,
Iron Byron only does a downswing. As is does this downswing the club is at 90 degrees to the axis (driveshaft) so it is a on a single plane. In all good downswings the club is flattening towards 90 degrees to the axis in the downswing. This is how/why both single and 2 plane golfers can copy the machine. To get this you need to start the axis (body) first and let the arms (mass) go along for the ride. If this occurs mass will move at 90 degrees to the axis 100% of the time.
JohnHardinger, 7 months ago
Paul, you have shrunk! Somehow the new youtube format is only allowing me to see videos at about 50% of the size that I could get before you started using You Tube. Can you let me know how to enlarge the screen??
Paul Wilson, 6 months ago
John, Just click on the gray button in the bottom right of the video player. Then hit the ESC key on your keyboard to exit.
richmosney, 6 months ago
hey paul in re; to your advice,,i checked my backswing and actually,i am slightly below the shoulder line,although if i force myself 2 coil more,i can actually reach,but not overreach the shoulder line,so i guess,what you see is what i am going to get.thanks anyway!!!
Paul Wilson, 6 months ago
Rich,
I think below the shoulder line is a little too flat. You need to lift the arms up a little. Just watch today’s tip. It explains how to do it.
HughClark, 6 days ago
Hi Paul-
Thank you for the wonderful instruction and tips. Been watching your teachings for a while now. I’m working on a steeper back swing- trying to get more upright. I’m mastering the powerless arms as well, but am suffering from a flying right elbow. Any tips on how to fix this? I know hogan said he got most of his power from keeping the elbow’s close together at set up. I’m trying to find a good drill for this and it feels natural to me, which might take time to fix. Thanks!!
Paul Wilson, 5 days ago
Hugh,
Thank you for the kind words and support. I truly appreciate it.
I did a tip on this here:
Elbow Position Backswing: http://ignitiongolf.com/elbow-position-backswing