Great swing thought! I will incorporate it. This is something I really need somewhere on the back nine, when I face a long par four, or a tense shot, and then swing too hard, thus going back to my old lame over the top swing. Ugh! Thank you Paul. Keep the good ideas coming. This one is a real key.
Glad you liked it. With my technique I don’t want people guessing so yes, under pressure this will work great because you are not trying to steer your shots. Instead, you are just going to the ending (which you have gone to a million times).
The great majority of pros doing a full swing hit my follow through position. You just have to freeze it on the right frame. This is what I saw over 24 years ago. Once I saw it I used it in my teaching. I have never changed since. Good thoughts.
This is my biggest struggle. Before I address the ball, my practice swings are as you teach. When I set up to the ball, I think A-to-B, or fire my hips and let the club follow, or get off my right foot. But most of the time, I hit flat footed, don’t turn my hips, so I am hitting with my arms. I have been trying for two years, and just can’t do the swing when I hit the ball. In front of a mirror or window, I look like your videos. If I slow way way down,I hit better, but in practice swings I can go all out and end up touching the legs and having the club shaft parallel between my ears. Very frustrating
This is because you are trying to propel the golf ball. I have said a million times you are not trying to hit anything. I have also said a million times to swing at 50%. Get it. Then speed up your body for more power. All you have to do is try it for a longer period of time do you get used to it. This is new. It is different. So you need to do something different when you play. Doing something different means you will not be good at it but who cares. Just make the change. Once you do, you will get it back in no time and start to play the best golf of your life.
Have you ever gone out to play by yourself which I also suggest? This way you will not be trying to play great and no one will be watching you. You can hit as many shots as you want until you can do it.
Thanks Paul for a great tip. I have always thought to myself if I’m not thinking about hitting the ball what should I be thinking. This tip was very helpful regarding that issue. I have a HARD TIME TAKING MY GAME FROM THE RANGE to the tee. My swing thoughts would break down once I had a ball on the tee a target to hit on the course. When I force myself to think point B my swing is much better.
This mental tip is as important as the swing mechanics because everything breaks down when the hit impulse enters my mind. As always appreciate your input which always seems very timely.
No many people do know where to swing to so when people saw swing through it like the ball is not there the may do it for the first couple of shots then in 2 seconds they are back to hitting again. With my follow through positions you know where to swing to and you get feedback to tell if you did it right or not. Just keep it in mind forever until you can go there without thinking about it.
this is something that perfectly summarizes what you’re trying to share with us. Like many of us, I definitely struggle to implement it, mainly because I have to override some years of very deeply ingrained bad habits. But no doubt this is fundamental, so I’ll try harder!
Just slow down and focus on the ending. If you hit the ending impact will be perfect. Moving slower makes it easier. Get it then increase your body for more power. Glad you are doing to work on it.
My problem isn’t my swing as much as the little swings like short pitches. I will hit three in row perfectly, smooth, etch and then find myself hitting at the ball shanking. This does not happen in the practice short game area as often as the golf course. It’s on the golf course when I seem to have this frustrating issue. I tried standing tall, not far from the ball, etc. and I work to turn my buckle to the target but on the shanks, the ball is heading right as I am moving into the correct finish.
Its almost like an involuntary action when it happens because the swing feels totally different then the good swings. The only way I can describe it is like hitting at the ball and my hands are out of position, even though I am not using them, thinking about the body. It”s like a freeze up at the ball. I tried keeping my weight on my heels more but even then, the clubhead is not coming through correctly. Have you ever heard of this?
You have improved my swing a lot but I can’t take advantage of my better hits because there is a loss of fell in my short game out of fear of this swing wreaking result.I read your tips on shanking but nothing works when it want to rear it’s ugly head.
This is because you are trying to hit the ball with the arms. In doing so, you are rolling forward onto your toes. So next time you are in this situation stay tall and feel the weight distribution. Don’t let it roll to your toes in the downswing. Also, you should be thinking HINGE/TURN to hit these shots anyway. You can even keep the weight a little on your heels as you hit these shots. If so you will not shank it. I fix shankers in minutes when they come for lessons. It’s simple to fix.
Paul, I get the idea here. Do you have an explanation why I can do it perfectly when practicing in the short game area but on the golf course I lose the feel and feel “locked up” at the ball? I also lose the feeling of lightness and smoothness/touch. I get mechanical and don’t hit half pitches with control. I will most certainly come to your school when you announce winter dates.
It’s because you have one ball and pressure. Do some practice swings before you hit your shot then change the way you think. Right now you are thinking of hitting the shot. I am thinking HINGE/TURN knowing if I do that my shot will be hit. These are 2 totally different thoughts. So start isolating the butt of the club and your belt buckle. Forget the ball and the club. If you do not know my pitching technique watch it again here:
Paul,
After not playing golf for over 15 years, I’ve been studying your method for a couple of months. It makes sense, you present the lessons clearly and your message is consistent. This Tip “Replace the Thought” has allowed me to stop hitting at the ball and gone is the pulled shot. I’m going from A-B and making myself hold the finish for a “one potato two potato” count…..IT WORKs!!!!
Very good. If people keep thinking of the same things how can they do anything different. A great swing is the opposite to what people have been doing for a long time. Most are hitting. Pros are using their body. With this different swing comes different thoughts. Just keep thinking this way and it will get better and better.
Paul
1. I am a believer, but it’s difficult, for me, to change a swing thought being used for several/many years. It is fun to continue working on your system so, in time, I’ll get there but it’s not easy.
2. If memory serves me correctly, I saw the “ORANGE BALL”, with your endorsements, club being used to help with your golf swing. Am I correct? If so, how do you suggest it to be used?
3. Some years ago I saw Payne Stewart on the practice tee, swinging an iron club and releasing it after impact? Might this help in achieving the correct feel in the wrist action needed when swinging to the finish?
1. This is why everyone needs to be doing practice swings around the house looking for the feedback of each position. If you keep doing them over and over you will not know any other way to swing.
2. No. I have not promoted this. It’s just like the whippy tempomaster from years ago. I don’t recall this device fixing anyone’s swing. I don’t mind people getting one to swing but it is not going to product miracles.
3. This is a great drill that everyone should be doing. The release is huge. I have done tons of tips on it.
Hey paul,
Still working on knees touch, touch head. Thanks for the reminder on setup, easy to get lazy there, especially on my ball position.
My question was, when do i start to try to speed up my legs and hips, should i be working on that now or wait till ive finished getting the whole swing. Im toned my swing down, probably two clubs shorter on the course currently.
I hit some better shots this week! Nice iron to the top tier by the stick, knees touching and club parallel to my ears, felt good!
I would be better to work on the whole swing first then speed it up. When swinging slower it is easier to check if you are doing everything right. Plus, you have had a lifetime of swinging hard. Get used to turning the arms off. Then you are driving the legs harder for more power. I’m just worried that if you try to speed it up to soon you will go back to hitting. Be careful. Watch this:
I started playing golf when I retired at 66. I am now in my third year. I am fairly competitive and I get very frustrated that I haven’t progressed anywhere near to where I think I should be. I have watched countless videos on You Tube, taken lessons from the Pro at my club (he teaches the square to square method). Nothing has seemed to work and I continue to hit my drives 150 yards or less and top more shots than I care to count. I play at a tough course. It is narrow with lots of trees and hazards. I play from the silver tees and cannot break 100. I am in excellent physical shape and feel I should be driving the ball 200 yards. That need for distance brought me to your “slow easy swing” video on you tube. I was hooked and in July I purchased your Body Swing video series and have just joined Ignition Golf. I have seen some improvement in the last few weeks and am beginning to feel excited about golf again. Though I live in New Hampshire I am considering signing up for you golf school next April. I still can’t hit a drive over 150 but I am confident I will reach 200 yards by working on your method. I apologize for this long preamble but wanted to give you some sense of where I am in the game of golf. This brings me to my question……
I can achieve your follow through position (legs touching and club parallel to my ears), but I don’t consciously think about any of the four triggers. I just think about getting to the follow through position and letting the club do the work. I AM concentrating on loose wrists and a good release. I know I am still using my arms as those shots I get to the follow through are much better golf shots but still lack the distance I think I could be getting. I was concerned about this but noticed that at 4:25 in this video you say get the follow through positions down and then add “powerless arms”. My concern is that when I focus on the touching the legs position, my swing falls apart. My rhythm breaks down and I spend too much time at the top of my swing thinking about moving my hips, my belt buckle, straightening me lead leg or rotating my back foot. They all happen because I can get to the positions but I don’t know what to focus on when I try to get powerless arms. Perhaps I am getting powerless arms but just don’t realize it. If so, I am still not getting the distance I should be getting.
Any advise on how to get powerless arms when my “trigger” or swing thought is Let The Club Do The Work and Get To The Follow Through Positions? Hope this makes some sense to you.
Again, my apologies for the length of this note. I enjoy your videos, your coaching style, and your humor. I am confident I can achieve a successful fourth year of golf with your method and your help!
Definitely keep working on it. If you cannot get drive more than 150 you have been hitting with the arms. So you understand that you need to turn them off. That’s great but you need to be working on the swing positions first. As you are working on positions you may feel your arms. This is why I said you need to turn them off (hot try to hit the ball) once you have a better looking golf swing.
I know you think you are doing the follow through but I for all of the people that have told me this over the years 1% are actually doing it. So make sure the positions are perfect along with the grip and setup.
Next, when you go to work on adding more distance you need to follow these steps:
Hi Paul, is it ok to use “Touch legs” as trigger also? Find that it gets a bit too much thinking another trigger, then touch legs then touch head. Cheers 😉
Hi, Paul. Just joined. Excellent teaching approach. I’m 69 and lack some flexibility. Even the “touch legs” is a struggle. I have been using a single plane swing, a la Bryson DeChambeau. But of course I produce no power with the swing. Is your technique compatible with a single plane set up? After all, the single plane is the “widest possible arc,” as you say. You appear to swing on two planes. Thanks.
Glad to have you on board. Glad you like my teaching. I appreciate it.
I teach a 2 plane swing because the best players of all time did 2 plane swings. Also, you can never eliminate the angle between the left hand and the shaft so you can never actually do a single plane swinging at 90 degrees to your body.
So I like the lead arm slightly above the shoulder plane at the top. This gives you power and not hitting with your arms gives you consistency.
So yes, you can still do the single plane setup. I wouldn’t do the wide stance as you cannot do my touch the legs position with this stance. Just see the 3 elements I teach. Circular body rotation, loose hinge (wrists) and maintain the spine angle. These 3 things are seen in all great swings regardless of whether they are single plane or dual.
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25 Responses to “Replace The Thought”
November 9, 2015
BrianGeissingerGreat swing thought! I will incorporate it. This is something I really need somewhere on the back nine, when I face a long par four, or a tense shot, and then swing too hard, thus going back to my old lame over the top swing. Ugh! Thank you Paul. Keep the good ideas coming. This one is a real key.
November 10, 2015
Paul WilsonBrian,
Glad you liked it. With my technique I don’t want people guessing so yes, under pressure this will work great because you are not trying to steer your shots. Instead, you are just going to the ending (which you have gone to a million times).
November 9, 2015
RaymondCHASTELWhat a good lesson ,Paul!You are 100% right .I was watching these days the WGC at SHANGHAI ,And the CHINESE player YANG must have had lessons with you ,because hé has such a beautiful follow through ,all in extension ,smooth And supple !
M’y main thought when performing ” YOUR ” follow through is to keep m’y ARMS LOOSE And POWERLESS .When I manage to do That ,m’y swing is perfect
November 10, 2015
Paul WilsonRaymond,
The great majority of pros doing a full swing hit my follow through position. You just have to freeze it on the right frame. This is what I saw over 24 years ago. Once I saw it I used it in my teaching. I have never changed since. Good thoughts.
November 9, 2015
RandyGormanThis is my biggest struggle. Before I address the ball, my practice swings are as you teach. When I set up to the ball, I think A-to-B, or fire my hips and let the club follow, or get off my right foot. But most of the time, I hit flat footed, don’t turn my hips, so I am hitting with my arms. I have been trying for two years, and just can’t do the swing when I hit the ball. In front of a mirror or window, I look like your videos. If I slow way way down,I hit better, but in practice swings I can go all out and end up touching the legs and having the club shaft parallel between my ears. Very frustrating
November 10, 2015
Paul WilsonRandy,
This is because you are trying to propel the golf ball. I have said a million times you are not trying to hit anything. I have also said a million times to swing at 50%. Get it. Then speed up your body for more power. All you have to do is try it for a longer period of time do you get used to it. This is new. It is different. So you need to do something different when you play. Doing something different means you will not be good at it but who cares. Just make the change. Once you do, you will get it back in no time and start to play the best golf of your life.
Have you ever gone out to play by yourself which I also suggest? This way you will not be trying to play great and no one will be watching you. You can hit as many shots as you want until you can do it.
Watch:
How To Take Your Swing From The Range To The Course: https://ignitiongolf.com/swing-range/
Taking Powerless Arms to the Course: https://ignitiongolf.com/powerless-arms-when-playing/
What To Think About When You Play: https://ignitiongolf.com/what-to-think-when-playing/
Playing Thoughts: https://ignitiongolf.com/playing-thoughts/
November 9, 2015
RoyThanks Paul for a great tip. I have always thought to myself if I’m not thinking about hitting the ball what should I be thinking. This tip was very helpful regarding that issue. I have a HARD TIME TAKING MY GAME FROM THE RANGE to the tee. My swing thoughts would break down once I had a ball on the tee a target to hit on the course. When I force myself to think point B my swing is much better.
This mental tip is as important as the swing mechanics because everything breaks down when the hit impulse enters my mind. As always appreciate your input which always seems very timely.
Roy
November 10, 2015
Paul WilsonRoy,
No many people do know where to swing to so when people saw swing through it like the ball is not there the may do it for the first couple of shots then in 2 seconds they are back to hitting again. With my follow through positions you know where to swing to and you get feedback to tell if you did it right or not. Just keep it in mind forever until you can go there without thinking about it.
November 9, 2015
PierreBourgeoisHi Paul,
this is something that perfectly summarizes what you’re trying to share with us. Like many of us, I definitely struggle to implement it, mainly because I have to override some years of very deeply ingrained bad habits. But no doubt this is fundamental, so I’ll try harder!
Pierre
November 10, 2015
Paul WilsonPierre,
Just slow down and focus on the ending. If you hit the ending impact will be perfect. Moving slower makes it easier. Get it then increase your body for more power. Glad you are doing to work on it.
November 9, 2015
JeffLubinMy problem isn’t my swing as much as the little swings like short pitches. I will hit three in row perfectly, smooth, etch and then find myself hitting at the ball shanking. This does not happen in the practice short game area as often as the golf course. It’s on the golf course when I seem to have this frustrating issue. I tried standing tall, not far from the ball, etc. and I work to turn my buckle to the target but on the shanks, the ball is heading right as I am moving into the correct finish.
Its almost like an involuntary action when it happens because the swing feels totally different then the good swings. The only way I can describe it is like hitting at the ball and my hands are out of position, even though I am not using them, thinking about the body. It”s like a freeze up at the ball. I tried keeping my weight on my heels more but even then, the clubhead is not coming through correctly. Have you ever heard of this?
You have improved my swing a lot but I can’t take advantage of my better hits because there is a loss of fell in my short game out of fear of this swing wreaking result.I read your tips on shanking but nothing works when it want to rear it’s ugly head.
November 10, 2015
Paul WilsonJeff,
This is because you are trying to hit the ball with the arms. In doing so, you are rolling forward onto your toes. So next time you are in this situation stay tall and feel the weight distribution. Don’t let it roll to your toes in the downswing. Also, you should be thinking HINGE/TURN to hit these shots anyway. You can even keep the weight a little on your heels as you hit these shots. If so you will not shank it. I fix shankers in minutes when they come for lessons. It’s simple to fix.
November 10, 2015
JeffLubinPaul, I get the idea here. Do you have an explanation why I can do it perfectly when practicing in the short game area but on the golf course I lose the feel and feel “locked up” at the ball? I also lose the feeling of lightness and smoothness/touch. I get mechanical and don’t hit half pitches with control. I will most certainly come to your school when you announce winter dates.
November 10, 2015
Paul WilsonJeff,
It’s because you have one ball and pressure. Do some practice swings before you hit your shot then change the way you think. Right now you are thinking of hitting the shot. I am thinking HINGE/TURN knowing if I do that my shot will be hit. These are 2 totally different thoughts. So start isolating the butt of the club and your belt buckle. Forget the ball and the club. If you do not know my pitching technique watch it again here:
How to Pitch: https://ignitiongolf.com/pitch-ball/
November 10, 2015
GarySchafferPaul,
After not playing golf for over 15 years, I’ve been studying your method for a couple of months. It makes sense, you present the lessons clearly and your message is consistent. This Tip “Replace the Thought” has allowed me to stop hitting at the ball and gone is the pulled shot. I’m going from A-B and making myself hold the finish for a “one potato two potato” count…..IT WORKs!!!!
Gary
November 10, 2015
Paul WilsonGary,
Very good. If people keep thinking of the same things how can they do anything different. A great swing is the opposite to what people have been doing for a long time. Most are hitting. Pros are using their body. With this different swing comes different thoughts. Just keep thinking this way and it will get better and better.
November 10, 2015
RobertGibsonPaul
1. I am a believer, but it’s difficult, for me, to change a swing thought being used for several/many years. It is fun to continue working on your system so, in time, I’ll get there but it’s not easy.
2. If memory serves me correctly, I saw the “ORANGE BALL”, with your endorsements, club being used to help with your golf swing. Am I correct? If so, how do you suggest it to be used?
3. Some years ago I saw Payne Stewart on the practice tee, swinging an iron club and releasing it after impact? Might this help in achieving the correct feel in the wrist action needed when swinging to the finish?
Bob Gibson
November 11, 2015
Paul WilsonBob,
1. This is why everyone needs to be doing practice swings around the house looking for the feedback of each position. If you keep doing them over and over you will not know any other way to swing.
2. No. I have not promoted this. It’s just like the whippy tempomaster from years ago. I don’t recall this device fixing anyone’s swing. I don’t mind people getting one to swing but it is not going to product miracles.
3. This is a great drill that everyone should be doing. The release is huge. I have done tons of tips on it.
Watch:
Drill – Smooth Wrist Release: https://ignitiongolf.com/smooth-wrist-release/
DRILL – Watch Your Release: https://ignitiongolf.com/drill-watch-release/
Drill – Grip Down To Feel The Release: https://ignitiongolf.com/grip-down-feel-release/
DRILL: Release and Rehinge: https://ignitiongolf.com/drill-feel-release-rehinge/
August 28, 2016
ShaneJonasHey paul,
Still working on knees touch, touch head. Thanks for the reminder on setup, easy to get lazy there, especially on my ball position.
My question was, when do i start to try to speed up my legs and hips, should i be working on that now or wait till ive finished getting the whole swing. Im toned my swing down, probably two clubs shorter on the course currently.
I hit some better shots this week! Nice iron to the top tier by the stick, knees touching and club parallel to my ears, felt good!
August 28, 2016
Paul WilsonShane,
I would be better to work on the whole swing first then speed it up. When swinging slower it is easier to check if you are doing everything right. Plus, you have had a lifetime of swinging hard. Get used to turning the arms off. Then you are driving the legs harder for more power. I’m just worried that if you try to speed it up to soon you will go back to hitting. Be careful. Watch this:
Confidence Breeds Distance: https://ignitiongolf.com/confidence-breeds-distance/
This is what you need to do if you want more power in the future:
Driving Hips Harder But Hook It First: https://ignitiongolf.com/driving-hips-hook-first/
DRILL: Golf Swing Timing For More Distance: https://ignitiongolf.com/timing-more-distance/
September 1, 2016
DavidPoppPaul,
I started playing golf when I retired at 66. I am now in my third year. I am fairly competitive and I get very frustrated that I haven’t progressed anywhere near to where I think I should be. I have watched countless videos on You Tube, taken lessons from the Pro at my club (he teaches the square to square method). Nothing has seemed to work and I continue to hit my drives 150 yards or less and top more shots than I care to count. I play at a tough course. It is narrow with lots of trees and hazards. I play from the silver tees and cannot break 100. I am in excellent physical shape and feel I should be driving the ball 200 yards. That need for distance brought me to your “slow easy swing” video on you tube. I was hooked and in July I purchased your Body Swing video series and have just joined Ignition Golf. I have seen some improvement in the last few weeks and am beginning to feel excited about golf again. Though I live in New Hampshire I am considering signing up for you golf school next April. I still can’t hit a drive over 150 but I am confident I will reach 200 yards by working on your method. I apologize for this long preamble but wanted to give you some sense of where I am in the game of golf. This brings me to my question……
I can achieve your follow through position (legs touching and club parallel to my ears), but I don’t consciously think about any of the four triggers. I just think about getting to the follow through position and letting the club do the work. I AM concentrating on loose wrists and a good release. I know I am still using my arms as those shots I get to the follow through are much better golf shots but still lack the distance I think I could be getting. I was concerned about this but noticed that at 4:25 in this video you say get the follow through positions down and then add “powerless arms”. My concern is that when I focus on the touching the legs position, my swing falls apart. My rhythm breaks down and I spend too much time at the top of my swing thinking about moving my hips, my belt buckle, straightening me lead leg or rotating my back foot. They all happen because I can get to the positions but I don’t know what to focus on when I try to get powerless arms. Perhaps I am getting powerless arms but just don’t realize it. If so, I am still not getting the distance I should be getting.
Any advise on how to get powerless arms when my “trigger” or swing thought is Let The Club Do The Work and Get To The Follow Through Positions? Hope this makes some sense to you.
Again, my apologies for the length of this note. I enjoy your videos, your coaching style, and your humor. I am confident I can achieve a successful fourth year of golf with your method and your help!
September 2, 2016
Paul WilsonDavid,
Thank you for the kind words.
Definitely keep working on it. If you cannot get drive more than 150 you have been hitting with the arms. So you understand that you need to turn them off. That’s great but you need to be working on the swing positions first. As you are working on positions you may feel your arms. This is why I said you need to turn them off (hot try to hit the ball) once you have a better looking golf swing.
I know you think you are doing the follow through but I for all of the people that have told me this over the years 1% are actually doing it. So make sure the positions are perfect along with the grip and setup.
Next, when you go to work on adding more distance you need to follow these steps:
DRILL: Golf Swing Timing For More Distance: https://ignitiongolf.com/timing-more-distance/
Driving Hips Harder But Hook It First: https://ignitiongolf.com/driving-hips-hook-first/
If you just increase leg drive you will hit pushes and push fades. So follow the tips above.
Also, you need to do these drills nightly:
DRILL: Listen to Club Swinging: https://ignitiongolf.com/drill-listen-to-club/
DRILL: How To Really Increase Power: https://ignitiongolf.com/how-to-really-increase-power/
Also this might be helpful:
Power: How I Got Power In My Swing: https://ignitiongolf.com/power-dig-foot-in/
It’s good you are just moving to the follow through position but you need a trigger to get this lower body moving.
May 5, 2017
StianOttersenHi Paul, is it ok to use “Touch legs” as trigger also? Find that it gets a bit too much thinking another trigger, then touch legs then touch head. Cheers 😉
August 20, 2018
HutchPollockHi, Paul. Just joined. Excellent teaching approach. I’m 69 and lack some flexibility. Even the “touch legs” is a struggle. I have been using a single plane swing, a la Bryson DeChambeau. But of course I produce no power with the swing. Is your technique compatible with a single plane set up? After all, the single plane is the “widest possible arc,” as you say. You appear to swing on two planes. Thanks.
August 21, 2018
Paul WilsonHutch,
Glad to have you on board. Glad you like my teaching. I appreciate it.
I teach a 2 plane swing because the best players of all time did 2 plane swings. Also, you can never eliminate the angle between the left hand and the shaft so you can never actually do a single plane swinging at 90 degrees to your body.
So I like the lead arm slightly above the shoulder plane at the top. This gives you power and not hitting with your arms gives you consistency.
So yes, you can still do the single plane setup. I wouldn’t do the wide stance as you cannot do my touch the legs position with this stance. Just see the 3 elements I teach. Circular body rotation, loose hinge (wrists) and maintain the spine angle. These 3 things are seen in all great swings regardless of whether they are single plane or dual.