Pro Versus Am – Lag

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  1. dominicmacedonia, 3 months ago

    How do you keep the lag angle without too much tension in your wrist for release.?

    • Paul Wilson

      Paul Wilson, 3 months ago

      Dominic,

      As I said in the tip, when you are working on lag you should be feeling your arms. So you are pulling the club down. It is already in a hinged position. To hinge it the wrists would have had o have been loose. You then hold this angle as you bring it down. Then release it. You would not be able to release it if your wrists were loose. So you jut keep doing this over and over again until you are good at it. As you keep doing it the grip will be secure and the wrists will loosen up. It is all about repetition.


      • Steven D, 3 months ago

        “You would not be able to release it if your wrists were loose.”
        Did you mean “tight,” Paul?
        Thanks.
        -Steve

        • Paul Wilson

          Paul Wilson, 3 months ago

          Steve,

          Probably. My brain is usually scrambled after doing tip after tip.


          • Steven D, 2 months ago

            I understand perfectly, Paul. It’s a good thing it’s only golf and not brain surgery!


  2. Steven D, 3 months ago

    Is anyone else having trouble with the sound on this tip?

    • Paul Wilson

      Paul Wilson, 3 months ago

      Steven,

      I said there was distortion in the email. Something was wrong with the mic when I shot this last batch of tips. I am trying to tweak he audio but I don’t think there is much I can do about these next few.


  3. GaryBrace, 3 months ago

    Hi Paul,
    You may need to replace the battery in your sound pack. Your voice was very garbled through the lesson.

    Great tip but had a hard time with the sound.

    Thanks,
    Gary Brace

    • Paul Wilson

      Paul Wilson, 3 months ago

      Gary,

      Thanks. It was not a battery issue though. Weird. I will have to switch cameras. It’s not the mic I checked it yesterday.

      I shot a few yesterday. I am trying to tweak he audio but I don’t think there is much I can do about these next few.


  4. dominicmacedonia, 3 months ago

    Paul,
    How much does lag contribute to swing speed.?
    Dom


  5. RobertMicheletti, 3 months ago

    This was a great tip, love pro vs am thank you!


  6. TIMADAMS, 3 months ago

    paul doesn’t the early rolling of the wrists destroy the lag angle

    • Paul Wilson

      Paul Wilson, 3 months ago

      Tim,

      No. This will help the lag angle because it will loosen your wrists. If your wrists are loose and you turn the body first the lag angle would be compressed in the downswing until around the right leg. Then it releases. If you are losing the lag angle you are hitting with the arms which is going to tighten everything up as the club approaches impact. When people hit hard the lock everything up and chicken wing it. If this occurs it is locked on both sides of the swing.


  7. FabienDuclocher, 2 months ago

    Hi Paul,
    I have troubles putting everything together. How can we incorporate lag in our “powerless arms” swing. They are powerless!! If we “keep” the angle they are no longer I believe. Furthermore, watching closely your Iron Byron videos, I can see the club face is open when the machine is fully hinged in the backswing. It seems there is a mechanism on the hinge that open and close the face, I suppose to reproduce the human arm. One thing sure, Iron Byron doesn’t train itself on the lag angle but has it inherently. Is it all about gaining flexibility in our wrists so they bcome a free hinge? Maybe it is about working on the club plan, as well. Any thoughts?

    • Paul Wilson

      Paul Wilson, 2 months ago

      Fabien,

      Your wrists are a hinge. As you go back momentum would allow the hinge to hinge to its maximum. Okay, now you are fully hinged at the top. How do you maintain this hinge coming down? You turn your body (axis) first and allow the mass (club) to trail behind it. After all, is this not what the word lag means? Something is trailing behind something else.

      Sure the Iron Byron has a mechanism. It was designed to test golf equipment. It needed to replicate the human golf swing perfectly plus they needed to put brakes on it so it did not keep snapping shafts into the ceiling on the way through.

      So how are you going to re-hinge the club perfectly every time? You are going to use forces acting on the mass. If you do nothing to mass and allow it to swing it was always want to move to its widest point. You already pre-determined the widest point when you set up with both arms straight. At this point you also pre-determined that when you arms are straight the face is square. So how do yo square the face consistently? You do nothing to the mass and turn the axis. In doing so, the mass would always swing to its widest point 100% of the time. This means the face at this point would be square 100% of the time unless you manipulate it or don’t setup with the face square. This point actually happens in a golf swing approx. 2 feet after contact with irons and 3 feet after with woods. So at impact the face is square to the path but open to the body.

      Watch:

      How to Release the Golf Club: http://ignitiongolf.com/impact-wrist-release

      Manually Square the Clubface: http://ignitiongolf.com/impact-squaring-clubface

      Manually Square the Clubface (Follow Up): http://ignitiongolf.com/impact-squaring-face-follow-up

      So how are you going to get all this. Well, you will never just instantly turn off your arms and keep your wrists loose. So I need you to work on the top of your backswing position and your follow through position. You can also do the roll over drill too. This should loosen up your release.

      Watch:

      3 Ways to Set The Top of the Backswing: http://ignitiongolf.com/backswing-top-3-ways

      And:

      One Of The Secrets To The Golf Swing: http://ignitiongolf.com/secrets-to-golf-swing/


  8. DavidCalvert, 20 hours ago

    hi paul
    I have been working a lot on the lag angle and have noticed when i swing in the mirror that once i start the downswing my wrists are that loose that they hinge more as the club drops is this correct?
    it is quite a weird feeling it feels and looks like the head of the club is going nowhere but the shaft and handle is.
    as always loving your tips with the lag in my swing i no longer come over the top my slice is gone (also due to the Ulitamte swing trainer a great devise) and im hitting my clubs 15 to 20 meters longer with no effort.


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