How Long To Make Swing Changes

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Paul Wilson is the creator of Swing Machine Golf and founder of Ignition Golf. Paul's golf swing technique is based on the Iron Byron swing machine. YouTube Channels: Paul Wilson Golf and Ignition Golf Tips. Please Join me on Google+

31 Responses to “How Long To Make Swing Changes”

  1. September 21, 2012

    FrankCoyle

    Good reminder Paul. Sometimes the mirror is your best friend and the range your worst enemy.

    • September 21, 2012

      Paul Wilson

      Frank, Glad you liked it. A tip like this is so important. I hope everyone really listens carefully to what I am saying.

  2. September 22, 2012

    jimmarlow

    This reminder is very important to me because I am at the point of becoming a little discouraged. I seemed to have more success after a month or two from when I discovered your teaching method.
    I am retired and so I play or practice almost daily. Most of my playing is by myself in the evening where I can hit more than one ball if I want.
    This leads me to my question; In what order should I be trying to incorporate these changes? I have thought that if I can get the motion of the lower body initiating the downswing with powerless and relaxed arms/wrists and finishing the swing in the correct posture that the other changes could be made later. I have made the mistake of trying to add tips about shortening my backswing, adding wrist cock and adding lag probably before I was ready. Do you agree with my assessment for my practice priorities?

    • September 24, 2012

      Paul Wilson

      Jim, If you are getting discouraged you need to slow down and take it one step at a time. I would think you are working on too many things instead of mastering something then moving on to the next thing.

      You should be mastering the grip, setup and follow through. These positions alone will make you hit the ball better than you ever have. Then you slowly start working on one piece of the backswing. Master it then move on the the next and so on. Do practice swings daily making sure these positions are perfect. You say you are hitting balls almost daily. I guarantee you are hitting too many balls without doing practice swings of the positions. So when you got to the range you are hitting easy shots not caring about the ball. Your thought is to smoothly make it to the top of the backswing then you are thinking of hitting my follow through position exactly I I demonstrate. If you are thinking about the follow through you are NOT thinking about hitting anything. Hit the shot … hold it … check it to make sure it is perfect. Keep doing this over and over until it is perfect. If you want to hit the ball farther you touch the legs faster. You never try to hit harder with the arms.

      So back to square one and focusing on the movement not the ball. If you do you will get it back in not time.

      • September 24, 2012

        jimmarlow

        Paul
        Thank you very much for your direct reply to my question. I needed to hear that. I now have a clear plan of action for future practice sessions.
        You are the best.

        • September 25, 2012

          Paul Wilson

          Jim, No problem. That is what I am here for. I want everyone to get it and play great golf.

  3. September 22, 2012

    mikeplummer

    Hi Paul,
    A great reminder not to expect too much too soon. I really identify with the part about flex in the right leg, as it has been a long time challenge for me. I have to really work on it as it seems to be the base for coil and staying in posture. Will continue to work on it as you describe.
    Thanks, Mike

    • September 24, 2012

      Paul Wilson

      Mike, Yes the flex in the right knee is a killer for most people. This is because it is hard too feel. Just watch it in the mirror as I suggest. This is the best way to get it.

  4. September 22, 2012

    LottaLiljegren

    For me it

    • September 24, 2012

      Paul Wilson

      Lotta,

      What you need to be working on right now is the grip, setup and follow through. Just go to those tips or reference my book and full swing videos. Also, keep the arms relaxed and feel the legs powering the swing.

      Over the winter you should be doing practice swings at home in a mirror (if possible). When yo do make sure you are checking your positions and making them perfect. After you get the follow through you start working on the backswing fixing one thing at a time.

      Take your time when making these changes. If you do you will not be distracted.

  5. February 1, 2013

    paulelliott

    Hi Paul,
    I realise you cant make a judgement without seeing my swing(i have enquired about your video lessons) BUT i am getting a bit discouraged. My handicap has fallen to 5.6 but i dont seem to be getting any better i normally shoot 76- 79 range but no lower.
    What should i be focusing on during practice, i practice my short game out of various lies almost everyday
    Great site
    Paul

    • February 1, 2013

      Paul Wilson

      Paul,

      Glad you like the site.

      I would think your swing is pretty good but there still need to be better. Once you take the arms out and stop hitting while basing your swing on purely coiling and uncoiling the body your swing will reach a whole new level. You are working on the short game which it great and you need to keep doing until it is great but that isn’t everything. You need to be in total control of your swing. By not using the arms to hit at the ball the face squares incredibly consistent and your miss hits are just a little offline. If you are always down or near the fairway and on or close to the green the game becomes a whole lot easier.

      To understand your swing a little more let me know what your mis-hits are doing so I know what is going on with your swing. Focus on this:

      Coiling: https://ignitiongolf.com/learn-coil-backswing

      Uncoil 1: https://ignitiongolf.com/uncoil

      Uncoil 2: https://ignitiongolf.com/uncoil-follow-up

      Make sure you are not trying to hit or help the shot in any way. If you do, you will understand what I am talking about and you will see how easy it is to keep the ball in play. Let me know.

  6. February 2, 2013

    paulelliott

    Hi Paul,
    I have changed my swing thanks to you ie using my lower body to start the downsing
    My MAJOR FAULTis i got a bit complacent and was coming out of the shots and hitting the ball low, thin or topped completely.
    I have always found it difficult to avoid coming out of the shot, pretty pathetic for a 6 handicapper,Paul.
    Any advice on how to focus on the ball or stop this habbit?

    My weak clubs at the minute are driver and hybrids, my scores are kept down cause i have a pretty good short game and putter!
    Terrific site i am on it everyday! Cheers me up when i have had a bad day!
    Best Regards
    Paul

  7. February 5, 2013

    paulelliott

    thanks

  8. November 9, 2015

    Waltreyer

    Paul,

    I’m not saying I have it , but your video on keeping your knee flexed seems to be my missing piece? I’m able to push off my right foot and bang my legs together with the club finishing effortlessly? It all seems to be coming together. ( I’ve been working hours daily and I think it’s starting to pay off)

    Thanks,
    Walt

    • November 10, 2015

      Paul Wilson

      Walt,

      Good stuff. Just hitting my follow through alone would make you get your swing back. If you were here I could have fixed it in an hour. I say this because you were a better player. To become a better player you had to have used your lower body. For some reason, you stopped using it. All I would have to do it get it turned back on again. You would then remember the feeling and use it again to power your swing. I deal with students in the same boat all of the time. It’s usually a guy who was a good player then had a family. Once back into golf they were not so good. This is because coming back to golf has them hitting again but from their past they already know how to use the body. I just have to get them feeling it again.

      You will know you are on track when you are hitting it great but it will be crystal clear you are using your legs and hips to hit the ball not your hands and arms. Maybe this tip will help:

      It’s An Unmistakable Feeling In Your Legs: https://ignitiongolf.com/unmistakable-feeling-legs/

  9. November 10, 2015

    Waltreyer

    Thanks Paul,

    I used to swing with my legs? I’m self taught and stumbled on the swing. I used to think back muscles (shoulders ) swinging the club and could feel my legs starting the down swing. I had the effortless arms but didn’t know what it was until your instructions. This game is driving me crazy ( only because I know I can do it?).

    If I find a way to get out to you, how much would a lesson cost?

    Best regards,
    Walt

  10. Hi Paul,
    I came back to this interesting video for the following reason. I worked on very significant changes with my local pro, for many months now and seeing quite great results at the range. the coiling/uncoiling mechanism is more grooved in, with powerless arms, so basically I would say I gained something like 2 clubs with my irons, and there is probably still room for improvement. The big trouble at the present is that I still don’t manage to make the transition on the course, where my “old” swing keeps haunting me and can be back in no time. If I take your assessment that it would take sometimes several months for someone practicing everyday (which is beyond possibility for me), am I wrong in guessing that it will probably take 1 or 2 years to master the changes on the course?

    • August 18, 2016

      Paul Wilson

      Pierre,

      Not all all. If you are not doing the new swing on the course you are not thinking of doing the new swing on the course. You need to do something different. This means you cannot be thinking score. You cannot be swinging hard. You cannot care about the shot in any way.

      I have done tips on this in the past. Basically, you need to go out by yourself late a night. You have 3 balls in your pocket. You swing at 50% trying to do the new swing. If you don’t hit a great shot, you drop another ball and do it again. Once you do this a few times you will be doing the new swing when you play and then you can speed it up.

      Keep in mind your new swing is different. If you keep playing with friends, keeping score, thinking about distance etc. you will never change what you are doing. So do something different.

      Watch:

      How To Take Your Swing From The Range To The Course: https://ignitiongolf.com/swing-range/

  11. Hi Paul,
    I agree with the “pattern” you describe, although it’s not so easy to keep buddies at bay (lol). So many partners offer unrequested advice or just say “hey, what’s going on, you seem completely out of your swing…”We have 2 courses at my home club, a 9-holes and the more difficult 18 holes. So, since a couple of weeks, I basically have a 2 step sequence for training : the range, where I might work, say, rythm, trying to stick as much as I can to what you call a “50%” setting, then I go on the 9 holes and do what you say (hitting 2-3 balls until I manage to duplicate what was obtained at the range). So far, the results are not bad at all, and I can hit some great shots there. I tried to emulate this on the 18 holes, but it’s not that easy as opportunities to play on my own are scarce. So would you recommend that I keep training on the 9 holes only for a while, until my new swing becomes more grooved in and not trying to play at all full-18 holes rounds?

    • August 19, 2016

      Paul Wilson

      Pierre,

      It’s not even that long that you need to do this. You need to play a few 9 hole rounds by yourself and see that you can do it. Then you try it with your buddies swinging at the same pace. Try 1 round and see what happens. You are not swinging this easy forever. You will be turning up the speed of the body for even more power. The longer it takes you to at least try it, the longer it will take you to get to this next level I am talking about. So focus. I would even chart how many times you swing easy. If it is 5 times then do it 10 times the next time out and so on. Where there’s a will there’s a way.

    • Hi Pierre,
      I had the same issue… I enjoyed and learned from the comments from you an Paul. How is going on the course now?

  12. Paul I have the loose arms but the ball start’s straight than fading to the right about 10 yards

  13. Thanks for this video Paul,
    I would like to comment here saying it can get discouraging.
    It takes practice, lots of swings!
    I found out that using a phone to video yourself is very beneficial.
    I thought I had the body swing down pat, but the video helps reveal all the flaws.
    So I would like to recommend to those of us struggling to video yourself and then go to the lessons and tips to correct your errors one at time.
    This is a great program, Thanks Paul.

    • Mark,

      It does take time and you should be working on 1 or two things until they are mastered. Problem is everyone want everything at once. I deal with this on a daily basis. Pros work on the movement. The ball comes later. Glad you see it and are working on it.

  14. August 19, 2019

    FrankCraig

    Paul

    I’ve been trying your method for a year now. I’ve done all of the practice at home, range, etc and done all of the positions. I used to score in the high 70’s low 80’s. Today I can’t break 90. I’ve seen my handicap go from 9 to 14 and playing the worst golf of my life and losing my passion for the game. I’m hopeful that things will eventually turn around but… Any advice would be appreciated.

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      August 22, 2019

      Paul Wilson

      Frank,

      Been there … done that more times than I can count. You are definitely the exception as most play the best golf of their live when they start learning my technique. So let’s get you back on track.

      Anytime someone does not get it the are:

      1. Not doing it right
      2. Not listening
      3. Just whacking golf balls
      4. Experimenting
      5. Not understanding exactly what they need to do
      6. Not watching their ball so they know exactly what the problem is
      7. Wanting results too fast

      There may be more but those are the ones off the top of my head.

      So, you need to first tell me how you have been working on my technique. Working on you grip, setup and follow through alone should have you hitting it better than you ever have in your life. I had a 97% success rate for a whole year when we charted the students who came through these schools I did. I never said 1 word about the backswing. I worked grip, setup, touch the legs and touch the head. 97% hit the ball better than they every had in their lives. The 3% were the ones who did not listen and were just enjoying a day off work.

      So this is where you start. If you don’t know these position you find them here. This is in the welcome video as soon as you joined.

      https://ignitiongolf.com/start-here/

      Those are the positions and lessons I teach.

      Next, stop hitting golf balls for a while. Other than hitting about 25 shots to warm up DO NOT hit balls. ONLY do practice swings doing these positions plus your grip and setup. There is no point hitting balls right now so STOP. You can play and work on your short game but for at least 1 month do not hit any golf balls.

      Get this frist I do not care about how you take it back. I ONLY care about the follow through and you mastering it. Once you get that, you work on the coil. You get that. Then you work on the hinge. That is it. There are 4 positions you must do.

      As you are getting that you are watching your ball so it tells you how to fix your own golf swing:

      Pocket Drill 1 – Spin: https://ignitiongolf.com/pocket-drill-1-spin/

      Pocket Drill 2 – Direction: https://ignitiongolf.com/pocket-drill-2-direction/

      How to Cure the Direction: https://ignitiongolf.com/cure-direction/

      How to Cure the Spin: https://ignitiongolf.com/fix-spin-problems/

      How to Cure the Contact: https://ignitiongolf.com/cure-contact/

      How to Cure Spin and Direction Problems: https://ignitiongolf.com/cure-spin-direction-problems/

      The Importance of the Setup Routine: https://ignitiongolf.com/importance-setup-routine/

      I an tell by your comment you do not know how to fix your own swing and you are only seeing the bad in your shots. If you only see the bad you will never know how to fix your own swing. So you learn the 2 pocket drills above. You watch your ball. You see the good in the shot. Then you apply the appropriate drill to fix the thing you are not doing in the shot. See below:

      See The Good In Your Shots: https://ignitiongolf.com/see-good-in-the-shot/

      See The Good In A Push or Push Fade: https://ignitiongolf.com/see-good-push-push-fade/

      See The Good In A Pull and Pull Hook: https://ignitiongolf.com/see-good-pull-pull-hook/

      Work on this exactly how I recommend. As you get into it I may ask you to email me 2 swings with a 7 iron (front and down the line) so I an check it. It is all about the movement. Get the movement, you get the ball. So this is how I need you to think.

      Keep me posted.

  15. August 25, 2019

    FrankCraig

    Paul,

    Thanks for the advice. I’ll follow what you said. One problem I know I have is that my hips stall at impact. I’ve seen it on video. It causes all sorts of problems. My hips stall but I stall get to the touch the legs position. I’ve tried to fix it for a long time but with no success. Any thoughts on fixing it?

    I’ll keep working on it.

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