Try as I might (and I have done all your drills) my wrists will just not release on their own. This just drives me crazy! The right wrist just REFUSES to cross over the left without conscious effort on my part which, of course tightens my wrists & activates my arms. It is making golf WORK rather than fun, and since golf is and has been for years my main form of recreation, it’s really beginning to depress me. Any other suggestions?
When you are working on it you will be consciously feeling and doing it. You are doing this until you can hook the ball consecutively at will. As you purposely roll it you remember the feeling of doing it. It is just your hands crossing over early that later. It is that simple. If you try to hit from the top with the arms you will lock the wrists and it will happen too late. So you have a club sitting at home and every night, night after night you roll it and you learn it.
You do not have to hit balls to learn this. You need to repeat it. It is not unlike any movement you have ever done in your life. You repeat it until you can do it without thinking about it. If that is 10,000 repetitions for you that is how long it takes.
Working on your swing is work. Once you have done the work then you have fun.
On the downswing…do you conscientiously touch your right elbow to your hip with your club pointed behind your body? Is this supposed to happen automatically?
Very good explanation. Do you just let the release happen naturally or do you have to practice over and over until you finally get it? I suppose video recording is the only real way to see if you have good lag.
You work on it until you get it. This took my many repetitions many years ago. I would do this constantly. Did you not see the tip on Friday. You need to watch this:
You are not consciously holding the angle unless you are working on it specifically. In this case you would be feeling yourself doing it so yes you would be using your arms.
I am holding the angle due to having loose wrists and physics. Here is what I just replied to another member:
Don’t see you hitting the ball. The left arm is a 2×4 with a hinge and a golf club attached to a pole. If you turn the pole why would the club unhinge? It wouldn’t. It would hold the lag angle until the last milliscond where it would then release because mass (the club) will always want to swing to its widest point (release point after impact).
You do this constantly until your wrists loosen and you get the angle. Yes, you can hold the angle too long that is why I don’t teach people to just pull the club down holding the angle. I want people doing the above drill.
Paul, great lag videos recently, I am continually working on keeping the powerless arms for the ENTIRE 18 holes, not always that easy accomplishment. My question to you is, with your instruction provided recently for obtaining lag, and various other full swing instructions, there a multitude of instructors promoting turning your wrist down during the follow through after the back swing; is that something I should be working on OR is that part of the powerless arms swing sequence, I appreciate your feed back, thank you, and great instructions as always…
You are not consciously holding the angle unless you are working on it specifically. In this case you would be feeling yourself doing it so yes you would be using your arms.
I am holding the angle due to having loose wrists and physics. Here is what I just replied to another member:
Don’t see you hitting the ball. The left arm is a 2×4 with a hinge and a golf club attached to a pole. If you turn the pole why would the club unhinge? It wouldn’t. It would hold the lag angle until the last milliscond where it would then release because mass (the club) will always want to swing to its widest point (release point after impact).
You do this constantly until your wrists loosen and you get the angle. Yes, you can hold the angle too long that is why I don’t teach people to just pull the club down holding the angle. I want people doing the above drill.
My last comment was success I was having on use of the “big toe” trigger and use of lag. Well, next 18 was “out of body” using this trigger and lag. Hit first 8 greens in regulation and chipped close on hole 9 for a two under 34 on the front – two birds and no bogies. Never have done that!! Partner had to hit the counter for a drink, so, must have lost my tempo as arms appeared and starting on hole 10, went double, double, triple, double, then 4 pars and a bogie on 18. Two under on front and 10 over on back!!! Had it working, lost it and did gain it back – but, not quick enough. Back to Paul’s #1 drill with emphasis on lag as so well noted in this video tip.
What happened was you were in over your head. I talk about this in my first book. It happens. So what you need to do it be there at this level numerous times. Once you are you expect to be there and will finally jump the hurdle. We have all experienced it. Don’t even worry about it. You will finish it off in the future.
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18 Responses to “Lag Comparison”
August 19, 2018
DavidJarrettTry as I might (and I have done all your drills) my wrists will just not release on their own. This just drives me crazy! The right wrist just REFUSES to cross over the left without conscious effort on my part which, of course tightens my wrists & activates my arms. It is making golf WORK rather than fun, and since golf is and has been for years my main form of recreation, it’s really beginning to depress me. Any other suggestions?
August 20, 2018
Paul WilsonDavid,
When you are working on it you will be consciously feeling and doing it. You are doing this until you can hook the ball consecutively at will. As you purposely roll it you remember the feeling of doing it. It is just your hands crossing over early that later. It is that simple. If you try to hit from the top with the arms you will lock the wrists and it will happen too late. So you have a club sitting at home and every night, night after night you roll it and you learn it.
Drill – Smooth Wrist Release: https://ignitiongolf.com/smooth-wrist-release/
You do not have to hit balls to learn this. You need to repeat it. It is not unlike any movement you have ever done in your life. You repeat it until you can do it without thinking about it. If that is 10,000 repetitions for you that is how long it takes.
Working on your swing is work. Once you have done the work then you have fun.
Working On Your Swing Is Work: https://ignitiongolf.com/change-takes-work/
August 19, 2018
JosephDaversawould you please do a video on the wrist and hand movements during the release process? thanks. i really appreciate all the help you give us.
August 20, 2018
Paul WilsonJoseph,
I ave done numerous tips on this subject. Here you go. I will try to do more in the future.
Squaring Clubface: https://ignitiongolf.com/square-clubface/
Manually Square the Clubface: https://ignitiongolf.com/impact-squaring-clubface/
Manually Square the Clubface (Follow Up): https://ignitiongolf.com/impact-squaring-face-follow-up/
Release Progression: https://ignitiongolf.com/release-progression/
Release Angles: https://ignitiongolf.com/downswing-release-angles/
Back Wrist at Impact: https://ignitiongolf.com/impact-back-wrist/
Knuckles Down At Impact: https://ignitiongolf.com/knuckles-down-impact/
Let me know what else you would like me to talk about.
August 19, 2018
MichaelJansenOn the downswing…do you conscientiously touch your right elbow to your hip with your club pointed behind your body? Is this supposed to happen automatically?
August 20, 2018
Paul WilsonMichael,
In no way am I thinking of this or trying to do it. For me, it happens on its own:
Right Elbow: https://ignitiongolf.com/downswing-right-elbow/
August 19, 2018
GLENNWISSEVery good explanation. Do you just let the release happen naturally or do you have to practice over and over until you finally get it? I suppose video recording is the only real way to see if you have good lag.
August 20, 2018
Paul WilsonGlenn,
You work on it until you get it. This took my many repetitions many years ago. I would do this constantly. Did you not see the tip on Friday. You need to watch this:
How I Got Lag: https://ignitiongolf.com/lag-follow-up/
Also,
Drill – Smooth Wrist Release: https://ignitiongolf.com/smooth-wrist-release/
Good Habits Series – Lag: https://ignitiongolf.com/good-habits-lag/
August 20, 2018
BillLovvornIf you are holding the angle does that not activate the wrists?
August 20, 2018
Paul WilsonBill,
You are not consciously holding the angle unless you are working on it specifically. In this case you would be feeling yourself doing it so yes you would be using your arms.
I am holding the angle due to having loose wrists and physics. Here is what I just replied to another member:
Don’t see you hitting the ball. The left arm is a 2×4 with a hinge and a golf club attached to a pole. If you turn the pole why would the club unhinge? It wouldn’t. It would hold the lag angle until the last milliscond where it would then release because mass (the club) will always want to swing to its widest point (release point after impact).
So you work on lag and release with this drill:
Lag And Release Drill: https://ignitiongolf.com/lag-release-drill/
You do this constantly until your wrists loosen and you get the angle. Yes, you can hold the angle too long that is why I don’t teach people to just pull the club down holding the angle. I want people doing the above drill.
Good Habits Series – Lag: https://ignitiongolf.com/good-habits-lag/
August 20, 2018
GaryDuplockPaul, great lag videos recently, I am continually working on keeping the powerless arms for the ENTIRE 18 holes, not always that easy accomplishment. My question to you is, with your instruction provided recently for obtaining lag, and various other full swing instructions, there a multitude of instructors promoting turning your wrist down during the follow through after the back swing; is that something I should be working on OR is that part of the powerless arms swing sequence, I appreciate your feed back, thank you, and great instructions as always…
August 20, 2018
Paul WilsonGary,
This happens due to the right fundamentals not because you are purposely doing this. If you do this purposely you will hit the ball off the planet.
Knuckles Down At Impact: https://ignitiongolf.com/knuckles-down-impact/
Might want to watch this one too:
Back Wrist at Impact: https://ignitiongolf.com/impact-back-wrist/
August 20, 2018
NeilSandowAs Bill asked above, if you’re holding the angle how could your wrists be loose? Do you hold the angle and then release your wrists?
August 20, 2018
Paul WilsonNeil,
Here is what I replied to Bill:
Bill,
You are not consciously holding the angle unless you are working on it specifically. In this case you would be feeling yourself doing it so yes you would be using your arms.
I am holding the angle due to having loose wrists and physics. Here is what I just replied to another member:
Don’t see you hitting the ball. The left arm is a 2×4 with a hinge and a golf club attached to a pole. If you turn the pole why would the club unhinge? It wouldn’t. It would hold the lag angle until the last milliscond where it would then release because mass (the club) will always want to swing to its widest point (release point after impact).
So you work on lag and release with this drill:
Lag And Release Drill: https://ignitiongolf.com/lag-release-drill/
You do this constantly until your wrists loosen and you get the angle. Yes, you can hold the angle too long that is why I don’t teach people to just pull the club down holding the angle. I want people doing the above drill.
Good Habits Series – Lag: https://ignitiongolf.com/good-habits-lag/
August 21, 2018
DanKueblerMy last comment was success I was having on use of the “big toe” trigger and use of lag. Well, next 18 was “out of body” using this trigger and lag. Hit first 8 greens in regulation and chipped close on hole 9 for a two under 34 on the front – two birds and no bogies. Never have done that!! Partner had to hit the counter for a drink, so, must have lost my tempo as arms appeared and starting on hole 10, went double, double, triple, double, then 4 pars and a bogie on 18. Two under on front and 10 over on back!!! Had it working, lost it and did gain it back – but, not quick enough. Back to Paul’s #1 drill with emphasis on lag as so well noted in this video tip.
August 21, 2018
Paul WilsonDan,
What happened was you were in over your head. I talk about this in my first book. It happens. So what you need to do it be there at this level numerous times. Once you are you expect to be there and will finally jump the hurdle. We have all experienced it. Don’t even worry about it. You will finish it off in the future.
August 22, 2018
DanKueblerThanks, Paul, understand that!!
December 18, 2018
JamesSandersPaul, I find that I increase lag angle by consciously clocking my wrists at the top of my backswing. Is this correct or should it be avoided.