How The Head Moves Down and Past Impact

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Paul Wilson

Paul Wilson is the creator of Swing Machine Golf and founder of Ignition Golf. Paul's golf swing technique is based on the Iron Byron swing machine. YouTube Channels: Paul Wilson Golf and Ignition Golf Tips. Please Join me on Google+

10 Responses to “How The Head Moves Down and Past Impact”

  1. August 25, 2013

    Ryan

    Paul –

    This is a great eye awakening lesson (impact head) that is really putting it together for me. I’ve been working for the past few rounds on coiling and uncoiling and through the process I hit a lot of pulls and some pull-hooks. I was also working with lag and not hitting with my arms. I really think that because I was pulling and pull-hooking the ball, that through my uncoiling, my head was moving with my body in unison while turning which would put my arms over the line.I’m now going to start working on the coil/uncoil with keeping my head behind the ball and not moving it until the arms are parallel. Is this what you meant in your book that your head looks down the entire time until you right shoulder hits your chin to look up? Apparently I keep looking down but was turning my head through the entire downswing.

    On another note, do you think that the downswing trigger you teach (turning of the hips) automatically happens if I follow your lesson on “uncoiling” For example, should I think (1) coil to the backswing, (2) turn hips, and (3) uncoil? Or do you think it automatically happens in unison?

    Thanks for your help!

    Ryan

    • August 26, 2013

      Paul Wilson

      Ryan,

      When you uncoil the head would still be behind the ball causing the body tilt in the downswing. I am releasing a few tips on this later this week. Yes, you are watching the ball then where the ball was. You do this until the back arm is parallel to the ground in the through swing. I think you get it. Plus, the head is behind the ball from the front view as you hit the ball. This keeps you behind it as you hit it.

      You have to think about uncoiling. If you can do it without thinking about it that’s great but most cannot. I like people to pick a trigger and stick with it.

  2. January 8, 2015

    KenPerez

    Paul,
    In the downswing keeping your head behind the ball,for both the driver and iron clubs, you are definitely dropping your head below the address position. So the tendency to hit fat is definitely there as you have mentioned. The question how does one move the head back up to the address position at impact preventing the fat shot? You talk about shifting/uncoiling a bit faster to correct. Is this because it allows that flexed left leg at address and at the top of the swing to straighten with the uncoiling of the lower body thereby raising your head back to address position at impact? If so, this is a delicate bit of sequencing that will take some work.

    Later, Ken

  3. January 12, 2015

    KenPerez

    Thanks Paul…really helped…just a clarification: The tilt at impact is the same as that at address but with the head behind the ball?

    Later, Ken

  4. Hi Paul,

    I’m coming from a history of slicing. I watched your video on learning to hook and from that I’ve been experimenting recently with setting up with my back tilted. I set up with the club loose in my left (forward) hand, then tilt my spine until my right hand can reach across and grip naturally. This is a very ‘strong’ grip, of course, and has virtually eradicated my slice. Another benefit (I thought) was that it permits swinging back and through to contact with a very still head. It feels very natural and I sometimes manage a high degree of effortlessness and dead straight shots (before I slip back into winding up ‘the power’ and it all slips away… 😉

    The same approach for my pitching has seen the closest spread of balls I’ve yet managed. It feels superbly repeatable.

    My problem is when I tire or start to go for distance, then my problems of too much lateral movement, failure to release or failure to complete the follow-through creep back in.

    Just wondered if you had any comments on this set-up? Is there any difference between tilting back during the backswing or setting up that way? I’m guessing yes, so I’d like to hear your views.

    Thanks,
    Leigh

    • Leigh,

      Not sure what you mean “setting up with back tilted.” Are you tilted right or away from the target at setup. If so you are pre-tilting. This pre-tilt gets you swinging inside out instead of over the top. The problem – you will start hitting pushes and push fades. Also, the only reason the ball is not going right (push/push fade) is the strong grip. How can you have loose wrists with a strong grip. If your wrists are loose you will hook it off the planet. If you tighten too much you will hit pushes and push fades. So although you are seeing a few better shots now you will see shots just as bad in the near future.

      Keep in mind if you are having to tighten the wrists to stop the hook how do you ever do this consistently? This means you will have to practice a lot (every day).

      Strong Grip Stops The Release: http://ignitiongolf.com/strong-grip-stops-release/

      Remembering How to Cure Pushed Shots: http://ignitiongolf.com/remembering-cure-pushed-shots/

      How To Cure Pushes and Push Fades: http://ignitiongolf.com/cure-pushes-push-fades/

      You get the backwards tilt not by pre-tilting. You get the backwards tilt by firing your lower body first in the downswing:

      2 Things Flatten the Plane: http://ignitiongolf.com/2-things-flatten-plane/

      When people are having trouble getting rid of an over the top swing I often have them manually tilt but this is only for a short period of time. Once they stop the over the top then they need to turn to stop the over-tilt.

      Anyway, curing slices is my specialty. I can do this in minutes. All you had to do is roll it over and get it hooking. Once you do that you add body rotation to straighten it out. Now you have a strong grip and pre-tilted. So you now have to make the choice what you want to do. Like I said, you will hit bad shots and you will have to practice this twice as hard to keep it. See how it goes or just follow my tips and work on it how I suggest.

      DRILL: 3 Ways To Roll It Over: http://ignitiongolf.com/3-ways-to-roll/
      Roll Around The Stick: http://ignitiongolf.com/roll-around-stick/
      Roll Over Drill Span: http://ignitiongolf.com/roll-over-span/
      Clarifying the Roll Over Drill: http://ignitiongolf.com/clarifying-roll-drill/
      After The Roll Over Drill: http://ignitiongolf.com/after-the-roll-over/

  5. Hi Paul,

    Thanks for your comprehensive reply. I’ve stopped the pre-tilting and have been working on your advice to good effect. My slice is a much rarer beast these days and I’m generally drawing more frequently.

    However, I do have the occasional huge slice and it’s a scary one because it can be a real screamer off into the bushes on the right. Now that I’m drawing more, the fact that this shot ends up almost 90 degrees off the ‘expected’ result really shakes my confidence.

    I’m trying to work out what’s different, but it’s not clear to me. It often comes after a run of hitting the ball really well, so I guess I’m trying to get ‘more’ and some fault creeps in. Obviously, the face is wide open at impact. I don’t think I’m locking my wrists, although it could be late roll. Or I could be over-winding on the backswing into a reverse pivot. I’ve checked but I don’t see any videos on this subject in the archive. It would be great if you could elaborate on the common outcomes of the reverse pivot.

    Keep up the great work. If I might make a suggestion for your website, it would be to add a ‘troubleshooting’ section to the golf tips tab, a sort of “If you’re doing ‘this’ or if ‘that’ is happening, try ‘this’..”

    Cheers,
    Leigh

    • Leigh,

      That big slice is you hitting way way way way way too hard and probably looking up trying to see this amazing shot you think you’re going to hit.

      Maybe you do 3-5 roll over drills before every tee shot to remind you about the wrist release.

      Thanks for the suggestion but there is already a CURES section in there. Are you not suing the Dashboard. There is a whole section on Cures there too. Might want to check it out.

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