If this makes you do it right then yes you can do this just not too much or you will hit pushes and push fades. Typically, the shoulders would be uncoiling on their own if you fire the lower body fast. If you aren’t good at it then it make help to purposely hold them back a little.
Probably because you are thinking about shifting. Just think “touch the legs” if so you will turn and shift. If done right the lead leg will be locked and the back leg will come around and perfectly touch it. So keep this position in mind as you make every swing. You are not good at this yet. It can take thousands of repetitions to master. Keep at it and you will get it.
this tip was great. I liked being able to see your swing like this. Monkey see monkey do! It helps me get a mental image of what the swing should look like. Thanks.
Hi Paul,
Having watched the slo-mo of your shot, i think i see why i am topping the ball sometimes. As you are hiting the ball, the left leg doesn’t appear to me to be straightening right away. It is still bent as you are making contact and then straightening. It is not a lot of bend, nor is there a long delay before the leg is completely straight. i think i am straightening my leg it a bit too soon and coming over the top. It is accentuated if i try to speed the hip turn up. i guess i just have afew thousand more practice swings to go.
thanks,
ter
The left leg is not locked straight at impact. It is locked when your back arm is parallel to the ground in through swing. I am starting to lock it as soon as I come down. The thing is, from the top to impact is 1/4 of a second. You cannot lock the leg in this little time. So you are at the top. Your thought is to do the touch the legs position. If you start locking it as soon as you start down it will be locked at 3/4 through. If you are not thinking about it when you start down it will be too late.
If you are coming over the top you need to work on the tilt.
Firing your lower body is like hitting the accelerator on a car. You fire the hips and the upper body hangs back creating the tilt in the downswing. You are not good at doing this. I would think you are also shifting immediately to the left leg which is causing you to not get the tilt and send it over the top.
So you need to manually tilt. I did a tip on this here:
The downswing move is a shift and turn. Also, throw a few balls overhand. In doing so your whole upper body will hang back just as you would do in a golf swing. If you didn’t get this tilt you would throw it way left. The motion you would do throwing a ball is the same as in the golf swing. So do this motion until you are good at it then apply the same motion to practice swings.
Wow, that’s great advice. Telling you to do something that every amateur player is doing. Every golf pro in the world is using their legs and hips when they swing. If you are doing it then you need to be doing it precisely and the right way. If you take that advice I guarantee you will never get it.
Hi Paul,
Thanks for the great response, i think i am close to doing correctly what you are saying, but i am never 100% sure. i would hate to groove an incorrect swing motion. i hope to take a lesson from you next year. i will be watching all of the tips over the next few days. As always thanks for you advice and inspiration.
ter
You need to do a swing analysis or skype lesson with Pete. I keep positing this and I’m flabbergasted people so few people do this. I would have killed for this growing up. For all of $20 we can check your swing. Right now he is even doing 2 for 1. You video your swing and send it to him. You can even do it on your phone. Such little effort to know exactly what you need to be working on.
Hi Paul,
I just watched your swing in slow mo, I noticed that the ball position is off the front foot,(for driver)
but when you square your driver up its 90 degress to down the line at address, about two balls back
from ball position (centre of body). should i be doing this too? and does it make a difference, when I address the ball i place my driver behind the ball which means my feet are down the line and upper body slightly rotated. Im close to achieving the results I’m looking for but still getting some, push fades/slices, hooks, and straight down the fairway shots
When you have teed up as many balls as I have in your life you too would place the head a few inches from the ball. You can do this if you want but you don’t have to.
been with your program a few months. I’m starting to feel the rewards of firing my lower body. I am in the fairway about 90% of my drives, and I can fire bullets to the flag on the approach shots. A great feeling that I have been missing most of my golfing lifetime. Thank you.
Paul,
Beautiful thing about redoing the web and I lost my favorites is that I get to watch them all again and make a new list. No complaints.
This was my first one in a while, so from a key reminder of what is important for me, this one is great. 3 practice swings before each ball at the range, too.
Right 3 practice swings. Too many people just whack ball after ball and get nowhere. This is not how to work on your swing. 3 practice swings or more then 1 ball and so on.
Could you add a subfolder for legs and hip rotation in the Full Swing folder on our saved tips. This is the one area most of us fail on and we need a spot to readily retrieve leg and hip tips.
I will put it on list of things to do. With the new site I have a new way categories the tips. I am hoping to get this done now in the near future. Before it would take me 1-2 minutes every time I clicked on something so I never finished it. I will let everyone know when I finish it.
Glad you like it. My swing is even better now. I’ve been working on it over the last year and a half.
Yes, you need to do them daily. This is what I keep stressing. You cannot do this once in a while and master it. Daily swings. This is also why I say to just do them at home. Easy that way.
You should be uncoiling with the lower body. I would think the shots you think are good are actually pulls. I would check them with an alignment stick to be sure.
Love this tip Paul – the slo-mo really helps, just look at the bend in your driver shaft (lag). Great trigger/thought to have left arm (for right handed) and hips squared up, or B2B as you call it. Swinging every day, knee through gap etc. Feels really good.
Glad you liked it. Excessive shaft bend is just the camera and distortion although it does bend somewhat.
Glad you are doing it daily. This is what it takes. Just use a mirror or reflection in a window in you can to give you added feedback. Hold and check the positions. In no time you will become addicted to doing the practice swings.
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32 Responses to “How The Hips Work In The Swing”
September 3, 2015
daviddonaldsonThis is an excellent tip. Do I fire my hips just as fast on all full shots with irons as well?
September 4, 2015
Paul WilsonDavid,
You are firing your hips as fast on all clubs. You will naturally fire them faster as the clubs get longer.
September 4, 2015
IanCarolinePaul
Great tip. Should I hold my shoulder turn back a little or will this happen automatically/
September 4, 2015
Paul WilsonIan,
If this makes you do it right then yes you can do this just not too much or you will hit pushes and push fades. Typically, the shoulders would be uncoiling on their own if you fire the lower body fast. If you aren’t good at it then it make help to purposely hold them back a little.
September 5, 2015
RobertGibsonPaul:
I’m working hard to initiate the downward swing with hip rotation as instructed.
(Rotate hips drill 60 – 100 timed most every day).
With this effort/practice the swing is getting better, BUT sometimes the hips slide forward with poor results.
Not sure why the hips misbehave and am looking for why this happens.
Please comment.
bob gibson
September 5, 2015
Paul WilsonBob,
Probably because you are thinking about shifting. Just think “touch the legs” if so you will turn and shift. If done right the lead leg will be locked and the back leg will come around and perfectly touch it. So keep this position in mind as you make every swing. You are not good at this yet. It can take thousands of repetitions to master. Keep at it and you will get it.
September 10, 2015
LarryRobertsthis tip was great. I liked being able to see your swing like this. Monkey see monkey do! It helps me get a mental image of what the swing should look like. Thanks.
December 5, 2015
LenKoblenzPaul,
You have a swing that looks like you could shoot 65. 🙂 I will soon.
Thanks,
Len Koblenz
December 6, 2015
Paul WilsonLen,
I have to practice though (which I never do).
December 16, 2015
terrybadgerHi Paul,
Having watched the slo-mo of your shot, i think i see why i am topping the ball sometimes. As you are hiting the ball, the left leg doesn’t appear to me to be straightening right away. It is still bent as you are making contact and then straightening. It is not a lot of bend, nor is there a long delay before the leg is completely straight. i think i am straightening my leg it a bit too soon and coming over the top. It is accentuated if i try to speed the hip turn up. i guess i just have afew thousand more practice swings to go.
thanks,
ter
December 16, 2015
Paul WilsonTerry,
The left leg is not locked straight at impact. It is locked when your back arm is parallel to the ground in through swing. I am starting to lock it as soon as I come down. The thing is, from the top to impact is 1/4 of a second. You cannot lock the leg in this little time. So you are at the top. Your thought is to do the touch the legs position. If you start locking it as soon as you start down it will be locked at 3/4 through. If you are not thinking about it when you start down it will be too late.
Watch:
Lock the Lead Leg at Three Quarters Through: https://ignitiongolf.com/lock-lead-leg/
If you are coming over the top you need to work on the tilt.
Firing your lower body is like hitting the accelerator on a car. You fire the hips and the upper body hangs back creating the tilt in the downswing. You are not good at doing this. I would think you are also shifting immediately to the left leg which is causing you to not get the tilt and send it over the top.
So you need to manually tilt. I did a tip on this here:
Cures – Manually Tilt To Stop Pulling: https://ignitiongolf.com/manually-tilt-cure-pull/
Body Tilt – Left Right: https://ignitiongolf.com/cure-pulling
Remember Series – Tilt and Turn: https://ignitiongolf.com/remember-series-tilt-turn/
Remember Series – Tilt and Lift: https://ignitiongolf.com/remember-tilt-lift/
Remember Series – Tilt and Roll: https://ignitiongolf.com/remember-tilt-roll/
So get the tilt first then get off the back foot.
The downswing move is a shift and turn. Also, throw a few balls overhand. In doing so your whole upper body will hang back just as you would do in a golf swing. If you didn’t get this tilt you would throw it way left. The motion you would do throwing a ball is the same as in the golf swing. So do this motion until you are good at it then apply the same motion to practice swings.
It’s Like A Throwing Motion: https://ignitiongolf.com/like-throwing-motion/
Wow, that’s great advice. Telling you to do something that every amateur player is doing. Every golf pro in the world is using their legs and hips when they swing. If you are doing it then you need to be doing it precisely and the right way. If you take that advice I guarantee you will never get it.
December 18, 2015
terrybadgerHi Paul,
Thanks for the great response, i think i am close to doing correctly what you are saying, but i am never 100% sure. i would hate to groove an incorrect swing motion. i hope to take a lesson from you next year. i will be watching all of the tips over the next few days. As always thanks for you advice and inspiration.
ter
December 19, 2015
Paul WilsonTerry,
You need to do a swing analysis or skype lesson with Pete. I keep positing this and I’m flabbergasted people so few people do this. I would have killed for this growing up. For all of $20 we can check your swing. Right now he is even doing 2 for 1. You video your swing and send it to him. You can even do it on your phone. Such little effort to know exactly what you need to be working on.
November 1, 2018
CharlieGentryPaul, check out the swing analysis of cam champ. It looks like he is doing what you say and averages 340.
November 2, 2018
Paul WilsonCharlie,
I saw it. I don’t like the floppiness coming down. I’m amazed he is that consistent doing it.
November 1, 2018
malcolmparkerHi Paul,
I just watched your swing in slow mo, I noticed that the ball position is off the front foot,(for driver)
but when you square your driver up its 90 degress to down the line at address, about two balls back
from ball position (centre of body). should i be doing this too? and does it make a difference, when I address the ball i place my driver behind the ball which means my feet are down the line and upper body slightly rotated. Im close to achieving the results I’m looking for but still getting some, push fades/slices, hooks, and straight down the fairway shots
i hope this makes scene
regards Mal parker ( Aus)
,
November 2, 2018
Paul WilsonMalcolm,
When you have teed up as many balls as I have in your life you too would place the head a few inches from the ball. You can do this if you want but you don’t have to.
November 1, 2018
JamesGoodsonbeen with your program a few months. I’m starting to feel the rewards of firing my lower body. I am in the fairway about 90% of my drives, and I can fire bullets to the flag on the approach shots. A great feeling that I have been missing most of my golfing lifetime. Thank you.
November 2, 2018
Paul WilsonJames,
That’s great news. I love hearing it. It’s a great feeling when you know where the ball is going. Keep at it.
November 1, 2018
KimBozikPaul,
Beautiful thing about redoing the web and I lost my favorites is that I get to watch them all again and make a new list. No complaints.
This was my first one in a while, so from a key reminder of what is important for me, this one is great. 3 practice swings before each ball at the range, too.
Still the best.
November 2, 2018
Paul WilsonKim,
Good stuff. You can never stop hearing it.
Right 3 practice swings. Too many people just whack ball after ball and get nowhere. This is not how to work on your swing. 3 practice swings or more then 1 ball and so on.
November 2, 2018
Paul WilsonKim,
You are using the new plug in right to save tips?
November 1, 2018
MichaelBarrettPaul,
Could you add a subfolder for legs and hip rotation in the Full Swing folder on our saved tips. This is the one area most of us fail on and we need a spot to readily retrieve leg and hip tips.
Thanks,
Mike
November 2, 2018
Paul WilsonMike,
I will put it on list of things to do. With the new site I have a new way categories the tips. I am hoping to get this done now in the near future. Before it would take me 1-2 minutes every time I clicked on something so I never finished it. I will let everyone know when I finish it.
November 1, 2018
MichaelBarrettPaul,
The slow motion videos of your swing make me violate the Tenth Commandment – Thou Shalt Not Covet.
I love the occasional inclusion of your swing in these videos. It shows us the prize for following your teachings.
I need to commit to doing at least 30 up in the air swings a day. Doesn’t sound like much but that would be over 100,000 swings in a year.
Thanks,
Mike
November 2, 2018
Paul WilsonMichael,
Glad you like it. My swing is even better now. I’ve been working on it over the last year and a half.
Yes, you need to do them daily. This is what I keep stressing. You cannot do this once in a while and master it. Daily swings. This is also why I say to just do them at home. Easy that way.
You can find a looping video of my swing here:
https://ignitiongolf.com/start-here/
Just download it.
November 2, 2018
MichaelBarrettPaul, thanks for the video link. Every IG member should download it.
November 1, 2018
MichaelBarrettMy bad. 10,000 swings total. Just goes to show one how much we need to practice to achieve your “tens of thousands “ of practice reps.
November 2, 2018
MikeNuebelPaul, sometimes I initiate my downswing with my shoulders and core and end up hitting the shot real good. Is this a bad habit I should avoid and why?
November 2, 2018
Paul WilsonMike,
You really don’t have to do that. Watch:
Uncoil 1: https://ignitiongolf.com/uncoil
Uncoil 2: https://ignitiongolf.com/uncoil-follow-up
You should be uncoiling with the lower body. I would think the shots you think are good are actually pulls. I would check them with an alignment stick to be sure.
November 6, 2018
SueTassyLove this tip Paul – the slo-mo really helps, just look at the bend in your driver shaft (lag). Great trigger/thought to have left arm (for right handed) and hips squared up, or B2B as you call it. Swinging every day, knee through gap etc. Feels really good.
November 6, 2018
Paul WilsonSue,
Glad you liked it. Excessive shaft bend is just the camera and distortion although it does bend somewhat.
Glad you are doing it daily. This is what it takes. Just use a mirror or reflection in a window in you can to give you added feedback. Hold and check the positions. In no time you will become addicted to doing the practice swings.